Bellhorn04
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Cole now looking like the guy they paid for.
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It's so close to the contracts for Happ and Morton that I don't know why we're even arguing about it. Happ and Morton did not get a guaranteed third year (but both deals included vesting options for third years), that's the only difference.
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Red Sox have fired GM Dave Dombrowski
Bellhorn04 replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I'm not sure there's a single player Dave traded who's having a good year in 2020. -
Larry, Larry...
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Bellhorn04 replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Other Baseball
And last night, a 21-year rookie catcher for the Jays named Alejandro Kirk had 4 hits, including a home run and a double. They said on the telecast (not making this up) he was the first 21-year rookie catcher since 1936 to have 4 hits including a home run in a game. The other amazing thing is that all 4 hits came leading off innings, and the first 3 came in consecutive innings. -
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Bellhorn04 replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Other Baseball
Also in that game on Sunday, Chavis homered in consecutive at-bats in consecutive innings. What I really noticed, though, was that they both came on long at-bats. 6 pitches and 8 pitches for a total of 14. I wonder if that approaches a record for total pitches on home runs in consecutive at-bats? This is one that might not be answerable. -
There have been some unusual occurrences the last few days - strangely enough, the ones I noticed were all against the Yankees. "Houck is the eighth pitcher - and sixth* starter - since 1901 to throw as many as five innings while allowing two hits or fewer in his first two MLB starts. And he's the first pitcher in Red Sox history to achieve that feat."
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Nonetheless, I think if Bumgarner's numbers merit 85 million, Price's would be worth a little better than half that, age difference and all.
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It's just about the fact that Price had the same WAR in 100 fewer innings than Bumgarner. Obviously you can't generate any WAR if you don't pitch at all.
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I'm pretty cynical about a lot of things, but I'm not quite that cynical.
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Yes, anything above replacement level would put you ahead on the deal.
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Lackey turned it around after Tommy John surgery. He ended up yielding good value on the deal. The injury clause in his contract was triggered and he played in 2015 for minimum wage. Which was good work by Theo, although it was St. Louis who got the benefit. We did get some value from Joe Kelly.
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It's really hard to be impressive when you're injured.
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Nope. Lackey had a 3.3 fWAR in 2010. Unless you are not buying fWAR all of a sudden.
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Yeah, I think that means Price actually pitched about 25% better...
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Charlie Morton had pitched more than 170 innings once in his whole career when the Rays signed him. Once - his career best 171.2 innings way back in 2011! A real horse!
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Did you count Price's 26 innings in the 2018 postseason? Did you account for the fact they shut him down early in 2019 because the team was out of it and there was no sense putting him at risk in meaningless games? He really only had that one injury-plagued season in 2017. In 2014-2016 he pitched mega-innings. Calling him "injury prone" is definitely overstating it.
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I must say it would be kind of cool to be able to throw high-90's heat, and hit the ball 450 feet.
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Even if you prefer the Morton and Happ deals, they're obviously in the same ballpark with the one for Price. Happ's deal included a vesting option which could have made it 3 years. And Price has better career numbers than those two. 16 * 3 for Price would be a little questionable, but certainly not outlandish.
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I think if JA Happ could get $17M * 2 and Charlie Morton could get $15M * 2, Price could probably get $16M * 3.
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So which starters are you thinking of, exactly?
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On TBS they said Dalbec can also pitch, and has a high-90's heater.
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Meanwhile Sox fans are more concerned about Chavis and/or Dalbec being the next Will Middlebrooks...
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Even better than that-the Dodgers kicked in money!
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Yes to the question. I guess it could happen in a 3 team trade involving a young Hall of Famer like Betts. A question for Red Sox fans is why didn't we just take Maeda? The Dodgers would have been in the same position except for not getting Graterol or giving up Downs. I assume Bloom wasn't that high on Maeda.
