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    Just got home. It's great to see the team put up some offense. Looking forward to the third period.
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    More than 50 players have reported (most of them minor leaguers). Along with Lester and Papelbon, Youkilis and Delcarmen are also in camp. http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/02/getting_a_head.html I LOVE this stuff!
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    Refer to my last post. When/if you want to discuss Pedroia and Cano without all the politics, bashing, off-topic stuff, etc. let me know.
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    Hey, if you want to discuss Cano and Pedroia without bashing me and claiming I don't understand baseball as well as you, I'd love to have a serious discussion. But I'm not going to engage in a pissing contest.
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    Hey, we agree on something. I think this is a prime example of the eyes deceiving observers. 95% of Yankees fans who know what it means to turn a double play well will say that Cano turns the double play well. But more objective eyes say otherwise and so do the statistics.
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    Alright, I've had enough. If you can't refrain from going off-topic and then claiming I'm backpedaling when I ask you to stay on topic, then I don't feel the need to continue the discussion. If you want to discuss Pedroia and Cano again, let me know.
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    If you want to talk Pedroia and Cano, I'm game. If you want to change the subject, please make a new thread. No hard feelings, but I can't stand it when threads get off topic.
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    Like I said, I guess we agree to disagree. You prefer to say things like Cano's more "dangerous" or he has "more range on a purely subjective basis. I prefer to go with the guy who has the superior ability to perform at the major league level.
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    Please. Where did I bash a member of the Yankees anywhere in this thread? Everything I've said has had objective analysis to back it up. To disagree with me because I'm using objective analysis and you're using subjective analysis is one thing. But to use inferior stats to mine, then claim I'm the one who doesn't understand the stats and that I'm just bashing Yankees players is another. Can't you just agree to disagree without bashing the other poster?
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    I looked at the wrong stat and I admitted it right away. I didn't use a far inferior stat to the one you were using, try to claim it was more accurate and then claim that you were the one who misunderstood the stats. If I had to guess, I'd say that you had no idea that RF was simply put outs plus assists until I just told you. If you did know that already, then I have no idea why you'd think it was more accurate than UZR.
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    You're criticizing me for using UZR as a range stat because it has to do more with positioning and arm accuracy, yet you're the one who tried to pass off a player's put outs plus assists as a more "accurate" range stat that depends on positioning and arm accuracy less. No hard feelings, but don't try to claim that the stats I'm using are flawed, then use a stat that's twice as flawed for all the same reasons and try to claim that I'm the one who misunderstands the stats.
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    I know exactly how UZR is calculated and I've known for YEARS. I was talking about it long before fangraphs had it available or was even around. I was tracking it before they altered it because of O-Dog (go ahead and look that up if you can even find information about it anymore). It certainly does measure range, though it's not the only thing it measures. Don't try to act like I only have my opinion because I don't understand the stats. You're the one who just tried to claim that put outs plus assists/innings played is a better indication of range
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    A ) It's hardly my only case for why I think Pedroia is more talented. B ) RF is a garbage stat, it's putouts + assists. It has nothing to do with how much ground the player had to cover to make a play. To suggest it's a better judge of range than UZR is kind of silly.
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    I guess we agree to disagree then. The vast majority of objective evidence shows that Pedroia is superior to Cano, that's why I'm on his side. I could care less about credibility, I'm just calling the shots as I see them.
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    That's the issue I have. It's easy to objectively prove that Pedroia is the better player but there's not a shred of objective evidence that Cano is more talented or has more natural ability.
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    This is baseball, not hockey. If being bigger and stronger meant that someone was more talented then Wily Mo Pena would be a future Hall of Famer. Baseball is a skills based game.
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    Isn't that the definition of talent and/or ability? And I've yet to see anyone provide any statistical evidence than Cano is more talented. It seems like a purely subjective argument based on the physical stature and play style of the players we're discussing.
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    I actually looked at the wrong ISO stats. But the last two years, the two have averaged an ISO within .015 points of eachother. And UZR, which is much more highly respected than RF, shows that Pedroia is hand and feet above Cano in range. I still think Pedroia is better than Cano in more categories.
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    Plate discipline and patience are tools that directly correlate to OBP. Can you provide any stats that demonstrate Cano is more of a "natural". To me the guy with a 93% contact rate and the better career even though he's a midget who's a year younger seems like the natural to me.
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