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No, Dipre's deal. I didn't even see that deal listed.

You have a vote. If you don't like the deal, veto it. I don't like to wield the league manager hammer unless absolutely necessary. Update: It seems the rest of the league didn't like the trade either. League veto, lol. First time I've seen it in our league.

I'm having too much fun with the league page.

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Exactly. The time it helps the least IMO opinion is the draft, since you are slotted in a spot, and the money effect is minimized as in comparison to the other examples. The Red Sox have done an excellent job in the draft. The Yankees have not. I think we are in 100% agreement on this [except for Jacko, but his opinions don't really count anyways].

Absolutely. The Red Sox could have. So could the Mets. In essence, this is a failed point. The Yankees did not add that much money [22 million], they actually offset it in the salaries they let expire. The Red Sox will lose Lowell's salary, Ortiz, and Beckett at the end of this season. If they decide to get Lee and Crawford for say 15 million a piece, does that mean they could add 30 million? Possibly, but the reality is that who they lost will offset who they gain. I agree with the last paragraph 100%. It's nice to see Red Sox fans finally admit their advantages. Kudos.

So...the Red Sox decided not to keep Bay for the years he wanted...how is that different than Damon? The Yankees decided that they wanted to get younger and cheaper...the Yankees needed to replace Damon and Matsui once they left. They used the money for two aging stars to get younger, and quite possibly, better. The Yankees net moves from their additions subtractions is approximately 6 million in SAVINGS. Not expenditure. The only thing that makes sense in your whole argument. Again...the Yankees net spending in players lost and players gained over this off-season has decreased for 2010. Agreed.

Of course...just don't try to enter the stadium with them, that's all. :harhar:

I have tickets to every single Yankee game in New York. Anyone want any, PM me. Later.

Javier Vazquez: 11.5 million (Melky Cabrera): 2.6 million [3.1 million contract, Yankees kicked in 500K) Granderson: $5.5 million, $8.25 million, $10 million So...the Yankees got a very solid pitcher for 8.9 million for a one year rental. They picked up a very solid OF for three years, 28.75 million [2 million buyout not included]. No other team right? Let's see what the Red Sox did this off-season: Lackey: 5 yr, 82.5 million Beltre: 1 year, 10 million Scutaro: 5.5 million [plus option] Cameron: 2 yr, 15.5 million Who exactly did the Red Sox lose? Wagner? Please..he was a two month rental, and you got two picks out of it. Bay was replaced by Lackey. You signed your free agents you wanted, and handled your arb issues. The Yankee payroll stayed about the same, with free agent defections being offset by the new acquisitions and contractual raises. The Red Sox increased their payroll by approximately 33%, bringing it to about 170 million...which is probably where it should be, not the $120 they were at for a long time. You're talking [as usual with very little logic] in the Yankees ABSORBING contracts of very affordable players. Would anyone rather have Lackey for 5 years for 82 million, or Vazquez for 1 year at 9 million? Anyone rather have Cameron for 15 million for 2 years, or Granderson for 3 years at 28 million? Anyone think that 3B with Beltre and Lowell is a bargain at 19 million? It must really suck for Red Sox fans that their team is now spending like a big market team. It must make you think "If they are spending this money now...why didn't they spend it before?". It's what I've said all along...the Red Sox could, they simply chose not to. The Yankees have a financial advantage over everyone. They haven't shown they can compete when things are relatively equal in the draft. The Red Sox have. That isn't even a debate in my mind. However, Dipre, you bringing up the Yankees moves this off-season, which were for the most part trades, in comparison to the Red Sox, who spent approximately 100 million on free agents...is, shall we say...a very weak argument.

Trade with me.

Go back to sleep. Seriously. Looking at this thread, he felt the Sox suck. He recanted. He wasn't rude, he wasn't insulting, he voiced his opinions. People calling for banning the guy when he did nothing but voice his opinions in a polite manner...get real. I'm done with this thread...until the last week of September. :thumbsup:

He's done a decent job...not a good one. Irrespective how Vasquez does, it was a great trade. Dipre, Vasquez's contract is very reasonable. It's not like they absorbed a bad contract there. He's done a decent job in acquiring hitters, he's been putrid in trading for pitchers. I'd say he's done an average to above average job. Where I think he's excelled actually, is the waiver wire and waiver wire type deals [Gaudin, Chacon]. The fact that other teams are trading away money is not really his fault. However, the Yankee FO has not shown itself to be anywhere near as proficient as the Red Sox when it comes to the draft, and that is the part in which money plays the smallest role [trades, free agency, etc.].

Eh...I have Borbon, who in my opinion is the same player as Davis. Porcello...well, it's a bit of a dice-roll there.

Another trade...I LOVE IT!

The truth is, in the big picture, neither Mitre or Gaudin figures to matter much. Move on...

Hey, if Jacko can practice medicine....

I'll get banned in October, after the Yankees win the World Series...again. Red Sox fans here are really thin-skinned. :harhar:

FINALLY! A trade. Damn it.

Those predictions weren't "fearless". These will be.

I would like to thank all the teams that rejected my deals. On second thought, I'm happy to have not made them, lol. If anyone would like to trade depth for depth, I have Rajai Davis and Julio Borbon, two speed merchants. I'm looking for depth in SP. I'm not looking for anyone in the top 100, just someone who can give me some quality starts. Of course, I'll expand the deal, but as of now, I'd like to stay small.