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Not only that, but the end result so far is immeasurably better. Any one who thinks Cashman is an exellent GM is an idiot and knows nothing about baseball.

Nope. At least it will give me some time to learn football. Seeing the young players Boston has brought up and who killed the Yankees just furthers my belief that Cashman is one of the worst GMs in baseball. Good job Brian.

Yup.

Even if we win the next two games, it's over. I'm kind of glad. I didn't want to watch us get close and then not make it. I'd rather we get swept, maybe Hank will change his mind and fire the douchebag.

Kilo, I never said he hadn't done well. There was a time Cashman did well too. I'm just not a fan of either the last two years.

I'm not much of a fan of Theo either. I think they both suck. I'd trade either of them for a 14 year old Vietnamese hooker, though. Female, preferably. The main difference between me and most of the posters here is that I will allow current trends to sway me either way. I think it's better than faithfully sticking by someone. When he does well, no matter who he is, or in what capacity, I commend him. When he sucks, I let him have it. That goes for players, GMs, peanut vendors...everyone. Cashman has been terrible of late IMO, so I let him have it. Theo hasn't been much better. Look, if you look at it, he hasn't had any great moves. If you dissect the Ramirez deal, it was terrible for the Red Sox. However, he did win a championship for you, so the external factors belie the fact. However, he gave up a 900+ OPS SS who right now is acknowledged as one of the top 5 players in the game....who's f***ing 24 years old. He got an old 3B who's winding down. A pitcher who has an aggregate ERA of 4.20 in three seasons. His Gagne deal was terrible. He gets a pass on Manny. Lugo was a mistake. Drew is looking like he is breaking down as expected. Matsuzaka has been good. Has he really been that good for you guys? Once again, forget who's writing the message, just the semblence of the message. If you don't win in 2007, it was all for s***. He hasn't done much to make you win. The scary thing is that Ramirez hasn't come close to hitting his prime yet. Yes, I realize you wouldn't have won last year without his moves. However, if the Guardians held on when they were up 3-1....ask yourself, would his moves have been worth it? I'm not so sure.

You mean ORS's bedroom?

So basically, we should be great in 2013. Kind of a long wait, lol.

Winslow or Gonzalez, my two TE...either one, your choice for a solid WR. First come, first serve.

He's got his surgery rotation that day. He can't exactly call out sick. Ask Jacko, he'll tell you.

If anyone's interested. My brother can't make the game.

But those picks aren't protected, right?

Everyone is available. The problem is, I don't know how to value the players. Someone send me a trade proposal, please? I won't be able to sleep tonight without making a trade.

But he's the man in charge. Look Jacko, when a corporation goes under, you blame the CEO. Now, we can't get rid of the owner, so you get rid of the GM. He's the one in charge. Jacko, I will say this. You know more about what goes on in the minor league level of the Yankees, including drafting/scouting than I will ever know. My knowledge is layman's level. I just see what I see in the majors. What I see is nothing has come up from a draft in over a decade from when they have been drafted, except for Joba. That's not enough. I appreciate your posts on the Yankees minor league system, but I don't see your love of this guy. He's just not a strong GM. If what you're saying is true, and this Oppenheimer is a genius, then Cashman's strength was hiring him. His trades and major league free agent signings have not been good enough for me. Now, no one wants to eat his words on Cashman more than me, because that will mean I was wrong, and that he did a good job and the Yankees do well. However, I do wish you were a little more objective and not blindly follow this guy. Where I do agree for the most part with your and his viewpoint of building from within, I just haven't seen him do it yet. I wish you'd distance yourself from Cashman a bit. The debates would be more informative. I was one of the first ones that called his Nady/Marte deal a steal, and commended him for it. Try to see this viewpoint. I see literally nothing at the major league level for 10+ years that's come up from the draft. I hear that he's doing a great job from you [and others]. I see pitchers with 88 MPH fastballs, and what looks to be so far, a Pavano-redux. I see nothing that swings a bat well. I hear that out of the first three picks, he signs one, and that it's a TJ surgery. The centerpiece of the Sheffield deal was a TJ surgery. Last year's first round pick was a TJ surgery. Seriously...what am I supposed to think? I haven't seen results Jacko. Just broken promises. I hope so. From your mouth to God's ears. However, I'm not willing to wait two more years. Put up a winner next year, or be gone.

Actually, I am smarter, he works harder. We both readily admit it. I don't get it. Anyways, you believe that the following is successful. Top three picks. One doesn't sign. Two needs surgery. Three we don't sign because he's injured. You think that's good? Jacko, I don't know anything about the draft. Neither does my dog. If I put all the players in a hat and had my dog pick out of a hat, she would have done better. The only thing she knows about baseball is that the baseballs are fun to fetch, and they taste good. It seems like Cashman probably doesn't know much more. Jacko, you fail in the aspect of accountability. He was the GM. It was under HIS watch. I can understand if you think [as I do] that Cashman was overrode by George and he went and got Sheff instead of Vlad. I think George probably knows as much as I do about the draft. Which is next to nothing. It is obvious that Cashman can do no wrong to you. Sadly, you take critiquing of your team's GM as a personal affront to your intelligence. That's plain stupid, Jacko. I'm not attacking you, but I'm attacking your defense of a sub-standard GM [iMO]. You take it personally, because, well, you're an idiot. That's not the point. The point is this, when did his employ begin? I'll buy the three year rule. Add three years to when he started, and that's his draft record. He had one good draft. He got Joba. Not good for approximately 10 years. Compare what he's done to the Red Sox, hell, compare it to pretty much any team, and he's been well below average. Now, I hope I'm wrong. But when I see his players that he drafted, like Hughes and Kennedy fall flat on their faces, and can't miss prospects like Tabata take steps back [although he did net us Nady/Marte, so he served a great role], or players like Sanchez or Brackman need TJ surgery, or that he can't sign a first round pick and then they don't sign their 3rd round pick because his arm is destroyed....well, as a layman, I can't see how he's good. I judge a farm system by how good the players are that come up from the minors or whether they are used to get something good. He's brought up Joba, who looks like a star in the making. Tabata is the second best since he netted Nady/Marte. The rest is crap so far. I hope I'm wrong, I hope they turn into stars. I think there's a better chance he's out of a job before that happens, because if you base it on what I see based on his tenure with the Yankees and what's come up, then he's done a bad job. Also...there was no reason to wait Jacko. Two year deals until that future arrived was the way to go. I can understand if he wants to shy away from 6-7 up to 10 year deals, but supplement what you need until they get here. He doesn't know how to do that either.

I'll pass on the cash. Don't know enough about football.

Jacko, the only person not intellectually gifted here is you. Regardless of your feelings on the matter, the Yankees have NOT done a good job of drafting. You say Oppenheimer and Cashman were hamstrung? More than the Twins, or Marlins? I highly doubt the Steinbrenners were that involved in the draft. Let's just say that they didn't allocate a lot of money to the draft. I would then presume that they would be in the same boat as everyone else. Probably middle of the pack. The truth is, the Yankees have done poorly in scouting and development. Cashman has had control since the late 90's. He hasn't drafted a single starting position player since he started. He's drafted ONE starter in Joba. I will say that I disagree with Madden in critiquing his free agent international signings. He did get Wang, Soriano, and Cano. I would consider that a good haul over ten years. I'm not including Japanese posted players. If you're not going to put Cashman on notice for the Yankees poor drafting, then who do you put it on? I am making the assumption that he was not given a significant advantage or disadvantage. In this, he failed miserably. No one he has ever drafted, not one, is a starter today. Jacko, insults aside, he has done a s***** job. We both root for the same team. We both want him to do well. However, I feel like you are taking defending Cashman as if you are defending yourself. It's not you who f***ed this up, he did. Look, I'd love it if all the players he signed ended up as stars. They haven't, so I've taken him to task for it. When you say you're happy they didn't sign Bittle...THEY COULD HAVE DRAFTED SOMEONE ELSE!!!! It was a wasted pick. So was the first pick. Out of the first three picks, they got a pitcher who is damaged. You call that good Jacko? Honestly...what would be bad? If they signed a one-armed outfielder? The truth is, he is touting youth, but he hasn't delivered it in the past. This is why I don't believe him when he says build from within. If we had Theo, who brought up Pedrioa, Lester, Papelbon, Lowrie...then maybe I'd buy into it. He brought up Joba, who might just be the best of them all when done, but that it. Nothing more. You tout Robertson. 5.96 ERA. He's not just a good caliber reliever. You're off here. You tout Veras. I like him. I think he has explosive stuff. I think you're on here. Jacko, please don't take this as a personal insult. We both root for the same team. However, look past your arguments with me on a personal level and see that he has done a poor job. I am making the assumption that he had the same fiscal resources as the other teams for once, and not an advantage. He's failied. He has shown an inability to compete evenly when he isn't given a fiscal advantage. He's a poor GM, Jacko. He's the reason we are in the predicament we are today.

Excerpts from Bill Madden's article in the Daily News on 8/24/08. The full article can be found here. I couldn't agree more. He took over the Yankees in 1998, so the drafting and scouting was all on him. His first three picks this year a) didn't sign required surgery c) were so damaged, the Yankees didn't sign him. He needs to go. Now. I think even Jacko has to agree now.

Bonds has been blackballed by baseball. End of story folks.

Another example of GHB not proving a damn thing. You've lost. You lost this argument a long time ago. There will be other one's, and I'm sure you'll get the best of me eventually. Just not today, and not on this one. Take your loss as graciously as you can, say that maybe you were wrong, in the heat of the moment, and frustrated at your Sox after seeing us get Nady/Marte and you lost Manny. Believe it or not, I'd be gracious in winning this round. Try it dude. You're really beating a dead horse.

Hey Jmcc.... Are you Sec39?

About this whole Mora thing.... I used to umpire, and sometimes you get caught. I don't know if you guys ever umpired before, but sometimes you have to find a way out of it. The home plate umpire called strike three. He missed that the ball bounced. When the Yankee catcher heard the call, he just trotted off the field, and so did the rest of the team. The other umpires confirmed that the ball bounced. This put the home plate umpire in a quandry. It's obvious the ball bounced, but he called strike three. If he lets the runners go, he basically gave the Orioles a tremendous advantage, instead of inning over on a strikeout, it's 2nd and 3rd. He can't exactly say that the ball didn't bounce. In his mind [and in my opinion rightfully so], the batter was out on a swing and a miss and he botched the call. So the runner went out of the baseline. About the only thing he could do. He saved face, and if he had made the right call, Mora would have been thrown out at first. This was the best call with the least amount of damage from what should have happened. I've had stuff like this happen to me when I was umpiring. Sometimes you just get stuck. This isn't a question of what's right or wrong. It's what should the call be. It's like the Pine Tar game. Truth is, even though Brett broke the rule, MacPhail [?] was right to overturn it.

Most of you don't realize that Carl Pavano has won his last two starts. If you also happen to realize that they are 501 days apart, you're just splitting hairs.

You make a strong point ORS. I hate to admit it, but you really do. However, I think overall, the strategy works better though for a big market team. We can go get a Weaver, a Brown, a Vazquez, an RJ. Just keep going at it till you get one that works. For everyone of those we get, we get a Clemens, a Key, a Justice, a Wells, an Abreu, an Arod. I see your point...but the Yankees wouldn't have been even close had we not made those deals. Like I said, a mix works best, but your point is well made.