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Did Pujols have an opt out clause that was exercised?
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You just don't get it. Believe what you want to believe regardless of the laws of economics and the market place.
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Did I say that or any thing approaching that? Giggling.
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The Free Agent market both reflects and contributes to establishing market value. It is not the only data that establishes market value. As I said earlier, other contemporaneous non free agent contracts would also be taken into account. Market value is fluid, but it is established by what "Clown GMs" are willing to pay for certain assets. That is real market value. Any other measure is a fiction in one or more aspects. If you think an opt out clause is meant to benefit anyone other than the party with the option, you are mistaken. It is designed to benefit only the player.
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The market isn't set by one 34 year old pitcher or one clown GM that offers him $31 million/ year.
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"You gotta have somethin."
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If we benefit from him leaving , it will be for a reason other than market value. It might be because we have enough starting pitching and need hitting or because Price is a toxic clubhouse personality, but the team will not be benefiting from a value perspective. From a preference standpoint, it might be desireable for you to move on from Price, but there is no corresponding value benefit.
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Whether you would prefer to move on from Price has no relation to the fact that the opt out clause operates in fact (not in theory) to maximize value for the player in the marketplace. It doesn't benefit the Red Sox value-wise whether or not it is exercised.
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It is not just his contract but other contemporaneous contracts for starting pitchers that establish the market. Unfortunately, it is the GMs (who I hold in low regard) who establish the real market. Edit: whether or not Price earns his contract has nothing to do with his market value at the time he hits the market. Past failed contracts (due to age or injury) should be factored into the current market.
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The FA market and current contracts are not the best market. They are the only market.
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What happens after the opt out is irrelevant. At the time of the opt out, Price will only leave if he is worth more on the open market. If he stays, it mean that we are over paying. If he leaves, it means we are losing a good deal. It is pretty straightforward.
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The Yankees bid against themselves. We will never know what his market was, because the Yankees refused to part with him.
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And we lived through that cliff despite not selling the future.
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Age and probability of injury would get factored into his market value, so that is right, it never would it work to our advantage in the open market. If he gets injured, that is happenstance, no different than the young stud getting injured.
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If the market rises sharply, the Red Sox would not have the opportunity to continue to pay Price $31 million. He will opt out. Somehow you think that this opt out clause can benefit the Red Sox. It cannot. If Price is worth more than $31 million he will leave and the Red Sox will have to pay more to replace him. If he is worthless than $31 million, the Red Sox will be stuck paying his contract. It is a clause for the benefit of Price. It will never benefit the Red Sox.
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Which is the point that I made initially to which you responded. If Price opts out, the Red Sox will have to pay the same amount or more to get a guy that may not be even as good as Price.
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Agreed.
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LOL!!! Unless we are just posting to blow smoke up management's ass.
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If the market for a 34 year old is more than $31 million, the market for the young stud will be more.
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I am glad that Farrrell got called out on WEEI for the stupid base running-- too many guys thrown out on the bases. That is the responsibility of the coaches and managers. A team can be aggressive without being stupid or reckless.
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Anything we get from Carson Smith this year will be gravy.
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That is true but that doesn't mean that the FO is doing a good job, because they have more information. I am not throwing any rocks at DD here, but with all the information available to him Ben made sooo many terrible and costly decisions.
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And Pablo can't field, so we clearly need a 3B.
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If DD wants to put this team over the top, he will be buying at the TD.
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And I am just pointing out that the point you are making will not come into play with his opt out clause. Price will not opt out of the contract unless he can make more money. If he can make more money at age 34, it will mean that the market has exploded and that we had him below market price.
