a700hitter

I hate that commercial. I leave the room when it s on or change the channel. I never see that commercial on any channel other than NESN. WHy is that?

I read the threads. I'm not surprised that the same FO apologists and cheer leaders were cheering back then. They looked at the numbers and were happy the team was making moves. Largely these threads were about CF and Coco Crisp. There was dissent. Some posters looked behind the numbers to point out that Tavarez was a Psycho and that Seanez was unaccomplished. I remember other criticisms of these two on other threads. My point is that the FO should have known. If people on these and other boards were questioning the moves, the FO should have known. Seanez' track record in the AL was not good. Tavarez track record was spotty at best.

I am not saying the ownership has done a terrible job. I never said that they didn't care. They have done many good things for the franchise, but they have also made many player personnel mistakes, and as a result, the product on the field is not as good as it should be.

Sorry dude, but many of us here knew that Seanez and Tavarez and Clement were sacks of s*** before they ever put on the Red Sox uniform. We knew that Jason Johnson is a sack of s*** with the worst winning % in history. Is that the type of track record you are talking about? If we knew it, Theo should have known it. He also should've known that Johnny Damon and Pedro could still play. The FO put the team together. They take the blame, not the players. BTW Damon and Pedro are on first place teams. I wonder if that's just a coincidence.

You are right. It was not this one move that ruined the season. It was a series of poor decisions for the past 2 years. This team was poorly constructed from the beginning, and the FO has sat with a pat hand even after that became obvious.

Shush! Don't you know that it is verboten for old-timers like us to criticize the FO.

Yes, I root for the Red Sox, but I am not a fan of the FO, because as far as I know, they don't play any games. I am sorry if you are a fan of the FO, because that must be very boring.

Is that how you decide who you are going to root for?

Thank you for the sage advice. Yes, I'll stop rooting for the team after 39 years because I don't like the way it is being run by an ownership group from Chicago (or is it St. Louis) who are making a boat load of money and putting out an inadequate product right now. If I have to outlast them, I can assure that I will, but I won't stop rooting for them. Who the hell roots for the management and the FO? I root for the guys on the field wearing the uniforms. If I think management is a bunch of *******s, I can assure you that my thinking is probably in line with about 75% of the players. Go ahead cheer lead for the FO. Keep telling them what a great job they are doing, but while you are patting them on the back be wary that they might have their hands in your pocket. I root for the guys who put it on the line on the field every day, not the MBA's with their business plans to maximize their profits on the fans money. f*** them. Get us the best players, or take your hands out of my pockets. I may stop buying tickets, but I'm still rooting for the team so go f*** yourself JSinger121 you management toadie and apologist. f*** all of you front office apologists who think it is unwarranted to criticize the FO for not giving the fans the best possible team-- one that can win it all. Keep blaming the players. Kill Seanez and Tavarez. Kill Foulke. Scream that Foulke is not earning his money. These guys are doing the best that they can. They are just not very good. It's the job of the FO to build the team, and this team has huge holes. They did a lousy job. Injuries are no excuse. Keep buying their line about building for the future, and call me an ******* when we finally take down the Yankees. I'll gladly admit my mistake, but until then f*** off.

Iwasn't trying to pick a fight. I just thought you were in one of your ornery moods.

Duke was never given the resources to get a Foulke and a Schilling and sign them long term in the same off-season. Who did Duke lose out of the farm system that he raped so badly that is making a difference for another team. Duke did bring Trot and Nomar to the majors and he traded for and brought Varitek to the majors. It seems to me that he identified the right guys to bring to the majors, and he traded the others for major leaguers. I think that's what a good GM is supposed to do. So if they kept Damon and Pedro, they wouldn't have Lester and MDC and the other youngsters? Why are the two mutually exclusive? The fact is that they are not mutually exclusive. You are just making excuses for the bad FO decisions to let them go. They didn't plow the money back into the farm system. They used it on the likes of Clement, Wells, Seanez, Tavarez, Wade Miller and others. That was a waste of resources. Keeping a HOF pitcher that has been an ALLStar twwo years in a row is not a wast. Oh, I forgot. He's over the hill. He was shut down by the Mets in September. Of course, that was because they were in contention for nothing and they were protecting a very valuable asset. That was just smart. Keeping Johnny Damon would have been smart instead of wasting $21 million on Renteria for one stinking, and I mean stinking, year.

You have a problem with winning?

I would never drag family into things, but he did compare me to his niece.

I think I know why your niece cries and complains a lot. Her uncle is an *******. While it is their money, maybe the fans should stop filling the Park for the highest ticket prices in the league to see a team that is built to compete, but not to win it all. If the FO doesn't do what it takes to win, the fans should stop going, because it is our money. I can tell you that Yankee fans would just stop going to the park. Yankee ownership knows that its fans will support a winning organization and nothing less.

But you don't do that by letting your current stars leave.

As Theo took credit for the core of the winning team built by Duke?

Teams pay far less thanthe Red Sox and put out better teams, eg. the Cardinals. The Mets have been turned around by Minaya, and their payroll is 19 million less.

Being critical is not crying. I've maintained my position about what the FO should have done since day one. I really can't help it if I turn out to be right. That's the honest truth. I hope you cockeyed optimists are right and this team can win, but you all have the little copout argument that we are "retooling" if they don't win. Are we going for the playoffs or are we retooling? man-up and tell me. Does the FO know if it is playing to win or not? You can't have it both ways, not with this team that has more FO created holes than swiss cheese. I am also opposed to this notion of retooling with a $120-130 million payroll and the vast financial resource of the Red Sox. They should be playing to win every year, and I give them no excuses when they don't You want to be a FO toady. That's fine. I'll continue to criticize the management, but I will not throw the winners and stars on the team under the bus as so many of you toadies are ready to do and replace them with unproven minor leaguers as part of a youth movement. Young teams lose. Veteran teams with a few young players win.

They beat us in the past. They are beating us in the present, and you are jkidding yourself ifmyou don't think it will continue. My point is that we should have been kicking their asses last year and this year. The foundation was their and the team learned how to win and beat the Yankees, and the smarty pants FO let it slip away. Just when we had turned the corner, the FO decided to take steps backwards. Edit: I really don't give a swhit if they pay some luxury tax.

Name-calling now. Okay, well you are an *******. That solves a lot.

The guy wins period. A .700 winning % is unbelievable whether it is in the AL or NL. Check out how many guys have done it for the course of their careers. It's a real short list. As for Damon hitting in Fenway, 6 of his HRs have been on the road. Two of his Yankee stadium HRs were upper deck jobs last week. He's also wrapped a few right down the line. Maybe he'd have one or two less for the red Sox. He'd also have more wall ball doubles and a higher average as well as more runs scored in front of Manny and Ortiz.

Are you calling for my banning? :shock:

I am just very pissed at a FO that seems to make more bad decisions than good, and then they sit and do nothing to help the team that they helped decimate by creating the holes.

If we kept them both and won 1 or 2 more championships, you say thank you to them if they suck in the last year of their contracts and bring in replacements like Ellsbury and Lester, etc.

3 games in the loss column. That is most important.