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  1. Is this deal still pending physicals. If Verdugo is damaged, that would make this look very bad.
  2. Chaim is a genius. Someone tell the genius that he still needs a manager.
  3. i don’t know if they don’t want to be competitive in 2020, but it looks like a throw in the towel move.
  4. Beat your chest all you want. Chaim had better have some tricks up his sleeve to avoid a 2020 debacle.
  5. imo, Price at half price was worth a lot. I’d have kept him at $15 million a year in a heart beat.
  6. That was my exact statement. That getting Verdugo straight up for Betts was a pipe dream.
  7. Or he could be headed for TJ surgery before he gets to Fenway.
  8. it was a pipe dream to get him straight up for Betts and we did not.
  9. Not even close. This time we traded a superstar MVP in his prime. And we threw in Price who if healthy will probably have a very big year for the Dodgers.
  10. Mookie Betts is still on the Red Sox (but rumored to be leaving momentarily) and they still don’t have a manager. The player’s are reporting to the head groundskeeper. Maybe, Bloomin idiot is trying to trade Betts for a manager.
  11. we are not going to get Verdugo straight up for Mookie. That is a pipe-dream.
  12. I’ll try to state more clearly why wishing for his opt out was silly. If Price was worth $40 mil/yr on the open market, the possibility of his inconsistent future performance would be irrelevant, because The Red Sox would have had an in the money asset. They could trade that asset while it is in the money and offload his entire salary plus get a premium in the form of other talent. If this “in the money” asset has an opt out provision, he leaves voluntarily and they get nothing. I think we agree that Contracts are assets with values. A contract during an opt out year can only have a negative value to a team. It can never have a positive value.
  13. The 2 situations are completely different. I agree with you on HanRam. My obvious point on the other issue is that the opt out is a player friendly provision that will never benefit the team from a value standpoint at the time of the decision. Anything unforeseen can happen afterward. Worries about Price’s health was not great foresight. It was a prominently known issue and it factored into him being worth much less than $30 million/yr at the time of his decision.
  14. HanRam did not have an opt out provision. It is a completely different situation. Trading a player after having a big season could be very beneficial. I would have traded Bradley after the season when he hit 26HRs. His value was very high after that, and since then he has been streaky and inconsistent. That is a very different situation than an opt out.
  15. He had a good season. He didn’t have a $30 million plus season— not even close. The open market would take into account his health and durability. They gauged that the open market would not pay him $30 million plus, so he stayed. An opt out is completely for the benefit of the player to capitalize on his increased value. It is not for the benefit of the team at all. Here’s why, if Price’s performance and health had boosted his value to $40 million a year, the Red Sox would be better off if he did not have an opt-out provision, even if the Sox wanted to shed payroll. The reason is that if he would be worth $40 million on the open market and the Sox has him for $30 million, they could trade him and offload his whole salary and get something of substantial value in return. If he is worth $40 million and opts out, they get nothing in return. The opt out isn’t designed to benefit the team that gives it. Hoping for him to opt out was just foolishness.
  16. Here's is what I was saying at the time, and what has happened since doesn't change what I said at that time. Price was only going to opt out if he was worth more than $30 million/year on the open market. For him to do otherwise would have been irrational. With many millions of dollars on the line, I would not expect him to act irrationally. He would only opt out of $30 million/ year if he and his agent were confident that he was worth substantially more than $30 million/year meaning that we had an undervalued asset at $30 million/year. To wish that he would opt out was illogical -- a fool's errand. That was my point.
  17. It wasn't a logical wish. But you don't get logic.
  18. It was absurd at the time, and what happened afterward doesn't change that.
  19. You can't possibly know this and even if the comp pick is a zero, getting one of these is not worth 1 year of Betts imo.
  20. Stripling was picked by his manager Dave Roberts for the 2018 All Star team after a hot run. He's 30, and probably has little upward potential. He's a serviceable bullpen depth arm, but imo that is not worth 1 year of Betts. It's a spare part in return for a salary dump. You say that whoever we get from the Dodgers is likely to be better than the draft pick we would get a year later. You don't know that. In any event, the spare part or seedlings that the Dodgers would send over are not worth 1 year of Betts imo.
  21. I never said that I hoped that Price would not opt out. I said that hoping for him to opt out was absurd. Those are 2 very different things. Whether or not they include Price with Betts, they will still get garbage in return. Edit: Stripling is 30 yrs old and completely unaccomplished, Cartaya is a 17 year old kid, and Gonsolin is garbage too. I'd prefer to keep Mookie for 1 more year and get a draft pick than to take one of those guys.
  22. We will be getting nothing for Betts, just one years earlier. The draft pick that we will get a year from now will probably be just as valuable as the garbage that the Dodgers are looking to foist upon us.
  23. If Bloom is going to trade Mookie, just do it and stop jerking off everybody. Nothing of significant value will be coming back in return. It’s a salary dump of an All Star player in his prime by a big market team —which in itself is preposterous and evidence that the organization is now run by buffoons. Just get on with it.
  24. I recommend that the Red Sox prepare name tags for the opening of Spring Camp.
  25. Myers is an awful outfielder.
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