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This team continues to embarrass itself. Lester will probably s*** himself tomorrow because it is a must win game.

If the Jays hadn't lost three of their starting pitchers to season ending surgery and lost Jose Bautista and Brett Lawrie to the DL, we would be in the cellar.

Ah hem, at the risk of being annoyingly repetitive, we should know going into any game that the Sox have to score at least 5 runs to have a chance at winning.

And they are beating us without Kipnis.

Nevermind going against the book that you never make the first or third out at third base, if the throw had been online he'd have been out by a full stride and a half.

We should be killing these pukes.

So we took this puke Lillibridge for Youk and we traded him to the Guardians and he hurts us.

I hate the Guardians caps. Bring back the Indian logo.

His k rate has fallen by a full strike out per 9 innings in each of the last 2 seasons. Another consideration in moving Lester is that he would have a lot more trade value than Beckett. There is no certainty that his performance will far exceed Beckett's performance.

Also, it should be pointed out that lester's 2011, while stellar compared to his 2012 performance, was also an off year. This is 2 off years in a row with this one being far worse.

My remarks were premised on Lester not turning things around by the end of the season. If he doesn't, whether or not they move him, the Red Sox should not plan on handing him the ball in 2013 in the top of the rotation.

Some people have said that TJ recovery would be much shorter for a position player than a pitcher. Maybe the off season is enough time. He could get the surgery October 1st. There will be no play offs to worry about.

One of the big questions in the off season will be what to do with Beckett and Lester. It will be hard to move them both. Realistically, they will be only able to move one of them. The other IMO should be moved to the bottom of the rotation. WHich should be moved? Beckett is older and his velocity is lower than Lester's. He's also the more unlikeable of the two-- an irrelevant factor. His affect on the clubhouse is not irrelelvant, but we really can't judge that. Everyone thinks Lackey is a cancer, but the players in the clubhouse apparently love the guy. Here is the case in favor of Beckett. He has better control than Lester and IMO, that gives him an edge in adapting to diminished velocity. He has demonstrated his ability to win big games on a big stage. As recently as last year, he dominated the Yankees. The unknown factor that may tip the scales in favor of keeping Beckett is whether he has been pitching injured. It seems like years ago, but at the beginning of the season there was the disclosure that he had a thumb ligament issue. He said that he though he could get through the season with it without getting surgery. If this has been hampering his performance and it can be fixed with off season surgery, he is probably the one they should keep. Lester has been injury free. Whatever is wrong with him might be a lot harder to fix. If he returns to form by the end of the season, I keep Lester. If he does not rebound strongly in 2012, I'd consider moving him and keeping Beckett.

Twins pitcher De Vries who recently looked like an ace against the Sox got battered by the Rays tonight lasting only 1 1/3 innings giving up 7 runs.

^ This about covers it.

Any Xray results on the injury?

That is one more than the number of games that the Sox have won when scoring less than 5 runs in a pretty long time. That's sad but true.

I don't think we need to see more consistency. I think we need to see durability. An ace needs to put up 200 innings in a season. He is yet to do that, and he will not do it this season. Until he does it, he's not an ace.

Buch is the only guy we have that can take us deep into games. Very nice effort tonight--- one of the very rare games that we have won while scoring less than 5 runs.

Our pitchers specialize in leadoff doubles.

Of course, we are making this kid look like Sandy Koufax. This is one of those rare games where we might not need 5 runs to have a chance.

That will be very depressing.

We agree alot more than we disagree. We just spend a disproportionate amount of time debating our disagreements. I think people don't realize sometimes that there is a lot more that the board agrees about than we disagree about. We just get caught up in the disagreements and lose sight of that fact.