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you can feel the hate pouring out of that post---it brought a tear to my eye..

PU ..whooaff....that's horrible.....something stinks around here!!! oh it's bellhorn striking out for the third time..Again. get rid of him, or least give him some shampoo.

here's a great article..from tthe daily news, I like the new nickname..the bumbling bombers.. about the Yanks failing chemistry Bumbling Bombers are an unfriendly bunch BY ANTHONY MCCARRON DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Recent report says Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez wanted to wring each other's necks in clubhouse, and while Yanks deny story, it's not as if Bombers are best of friends these days. DETROIT — Winning, according to Yankee GM Brian Cashman, is a "petri dish for team chemistry. Add a lot of winning, it develops." So with the Yankees listing along in a state of mediocrity this season, where does the Yankee clubhouse stand? "We're not winning," Cashman said, "so we've probably got a lot of grumpy guys down there." Grumpy enough to fight? An Internet report surfaced during the week saying that team captain Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez, the Yankees' two marquee players, had fought in the clubhouse after a June loss. While everyone around the Yankees denies it — Jeter laughed it off, saying, "There are so many things out there that are untrue" — it's exactly the kind of unrest people begin to expect from a struggling club. When a $200 million team proves to be ordinary, all kinds of stories start to surface. In several interviews over the weekend, a few Yankees pointed out that it is impossible for them to have the mostly serene clubhouse atmosphere they've enjoyed in the past because of all the losing. There have been the usual Yankeeland distractions this season, from George Steinbrenner's blustering to more team meetings, but the team's record is what has the most impact on the players and their workplace. At 40-39 after last night's 8-4 win against the Tigers, the Yankees are in — for them — mostly uncharted waters. "Until you get your record where you need to have it, being at ease and as confident in what you're doing, you don't have that," Joe Torre said. "It doesn't keep you from getting along, it keeps you from maybe offering as much help as you can." "It's tough to have 25 men all liking each other, but we still pull for each other," added Jorge Posada. "I think we've got a great group of guys who really respect each other and love each other and pull for each other. Is that going to help us win? I don't know. If we had 25 guys who didn't like each other and we won, we'll take that. "When we win, chemistry gets better. Obviously, there are going to be some changes around and we've got to worry about the guys who are going to be on the field." While the Yankees believe that team togetherness is mostly a byproduct of victory, other teams preach its mystical quality. The Red Sox, for instance, have credited their World Series win last year to team unity, joyously calling themselves a bunch of "idiots." Posada says the Sox are proud of their team chemistry because "they won last year. Everything worked out, everything was a part of their success." But, he notes, sometimes those feelings can be forgotten after a successful season, too. "You get it when you win, because that's when everything is fun, everything is good and you look back and say, ‘We had a great team,'" Posada said. Of course, pooh-poohing team chemistry can be perceived as the chorus of an average team, and the Yankees — whose championship teams endured their share of tumult, too — may have tried to recapture some of the feeling from their teams from 1996-2001 by bringing back Tino Martinez, beloved by teammates as much as he was by fans. Cashman, however, says Martinez's possible clubhouse contributions were not a factor into the decision to bring him back, even though he and Jeter, the team captain, are good friends, as are Martinez and Posada. "We're not in the business of just reuniting friends," Cashman said. But Torre says he was happy to have Martinez back, partly because of what he can bring to the clubhouse. And according to an article in Sports Illustrated, A-Rod has nicknamed Martinez "The Bridge" because he's helped Rodriguez mesh with the Yankees who are still around from the title teams — Posada, Jeter, Bernie Williams and Mariano Rivera. "He knows our mantra and what we need to have happen and how we do things," Torre said of Martinez. "People who have been here before try to minimize the damage and maybe minimize the emotional effect of George yelling at guys, whereas guys just coming in and are exposed to that for the first time, emotionally it could take a toll. "I think Tino is sort of there to answer the questions. When new guys come in, they watch other guys who've been here, how they carry themselves, more so than what they say." Change is a fact of life in pinstripes. But, Posada says, "you look back from '96 to 2000, pretty much the whole team was together the whole time, and it's tough to do that these days." Jeter, however, argues that "in '98, it's not like everybody hung out together after the games. Half the guys, you never saw after games, but you wanted to win. All that stuff is overrated." The Yankees last won it all in 2000, and certainly there have been clubhouse pitfalls along the way. Some were easy to shrug off, such as when the fiery Posada and Orlando Hernandez fought in the clubhouse in 2002. But other moments still resonate — with Kevin Brown's injuries and ineffectiveness, it's debatable whether his teammates have forgiven him for breaking his hand by punching a clubhouse wall last season. Remarks by Jeter and Posada questioning effort after the 2002 playoff loss to the Angels may still reverberate, too. Jeter, in comments he's repeated several times since, noted that there were some players on the Yankees who had won championships and some who hadn't. "It's the truth," Jeter said. "It wasn't meant to sound any way, it's just a different team." Jason Giambi's controversial year has pushed players into a situation where they must support him publicly, even if they disapprove of what he may or may not have done with steroids. And there is no telling what kind of hangover the Yankees' stunning loss to the Red Sox in the playoffs has created, even though Torre denies it. Still, something is wrong with the Yankees this year. Jeter generally doesn't show anger, but he accused the team of "playing like we don't care" during a miserable road trip to the Midwest in June. There are other signs of wear, too. In his anti-trade tirade last week, Gary Sheffield noted that his advancing age had been an issue in his contract negotiations with Steinbrenner. But, Sheffield said, age was not an issue with other players "who are a lot older than I am." The newest Yankee star, Randy Johnson, is 41 and got a two-year contract extension before this season. There was potential for more unrest with a report on Radar Online this week of a fight between Jeter and A-Rod after a June 20 loss in which Jeter committed a costly error, but both Jeter and Cashman denied the story. "It's just not true," Cashman said. "You can't help someone making up a story," Jeter added. "That happens when you're winning or losing. It's just more attention to all the smaller things if you're losing. Some things get overlooked if you're winning." Most Yankees, Posada says, get along socially, although neither Posada nor Torre thinks that is vital. "We've been together so long, we understand each other," Posada said of his friendship with Jeter and Martinez. He added there are "no problems here in the clubhouse" and pointed to a golf outing by several players on Thursday's off-day as some proof. But he also offered this sobering evaluation: "It's fun to see, but we still have to play nine innings, still have to do what we have to win. We've got to figure it out real quick and do what it takes to win, whatever it takes."

he strikes out more than any player in the majors on days that end with the letter y, as well. ..

issues like he cant pitch anymore, he isnt a nice guy and he is a liability to the team...issues like thaT?

I'm afraid gary sheffield is among one of the biggest *******s to have ever played the game.. he has been a dick and a locker room cancer in every town he has -played in and new york is no different. i'm not so sure they afraid of sheffield but of george and the yankees. He should be punished merely for being such a f***ing dick..he makes Barry bonds look like a nice guy and that's virtually impossible.. I wonder who is a bigger f*** head KENNY ROGERS OR SHEFFIELD. I say sheff.

besides his awful ERA and horrendous Btg average against.. I heard the most disturning fact of all the other night..I believe he has retired the side 1-2-3, 4 times this season. I third the motion.

f*** halladay is sharp.

I notice that jerry and dan dont even talk about bellhorn while he strikes out..

in other news.. hazel may looked kinda hot in that tank top today..oh yeah.. nice tats, wellsie.

tomorrow is george stienbrenners birthday..I hope the yankees stink up the place to make his birthday miserable.. In terms of the halfway point..in spite of the absolutely putrid performance of our bullpen, in spite of our ace being injured, we are in first. and that is the most important thing to consider. I think foulke and embree suck..and I am not a big fan of winning in spie of certain guys, because that catches up with you. In a utopian world, foulke, embree, bellhorn and millar would be sipping coffee in a an open market in baghdad with a-f***. we;re in first, manny is hot and hey the yankees might really be this bad, the tigers shelled the big-unitless one..life is good..happy 4th.

he has the second highest ERA of any closer in the majors...if he pitched anywhere else in the majors he would be booed every time he came out of the bullpen. My problem with him isnt the comments he made, it's the fact that he coninues to look anemic on the mound...I get the feeling the guy is a jerk, and a jerk with a low ERA is very different that a jerk who gets shelled, I say trade him...

francona still gets the benefit of the doubt in my book, but his blind loyalty to certain guys is a bit annoying. I beg to differ sizzlin, pitchers can get s***** in a year...age alone plays a big role, and in keith's case his arm just may be shot...a mere loss of 3-5mph on his fastball has translated into meatball after meatball. IN one year randy johnsons has gone from being superman to just plain very good, and I wonder if age and nagging injuries have simply caught up with him. foulke has the worst numbers of any closer in the american league. he is also an *******, and if this was anywhere but boston he would have booed a lot more than just thre other night. He is far from being dominant and rarely gets the side 1-2-3, it's always a nail biter. I know they wont get rid of him, but I wish they would he is washed up in my opinion.

mother foulken embree..!

one good game and then a horrific game... let's face it the guy sucks and wont be back next year, thank God.

I gotta give credit where credit is due..great game by bellhorn..I dont think he'll be aorund next season howvere, but for now he's our second baseman and iclearly he has a big or two in him...good job mark... now if we can get a couple of new relivers we'll be in fine shape. nice game yesterday even after cumstain embree we bounced right back, and that shows character--i love it.

he's a egomanical cancer, and when his team's go badly his numbers get better, and when they win he never has a role. I cant quite figure him out but the bottom line is he destroy's team's he plays with and I cant even picture what life would have been like with him here. all he cares about is alice and I'm glad he's on the yankees and I hope his cancer spreads and spreads. In the meantime things feel great being a sox fan....even alan and bellhorn feel right--and since millar isnt playing I personally couldnt ask for more. let's go wellsie!!

OKay, I have to admit--for one innning last night alan embree did a great job.. coming in with the bases loaded, getting a strikout and a double play. amazing.

this was in the globe. I almost threw up... Despite Hafner's home run, Embree said he felt more comfortable on the mound than at any time this season. "It feels like I'm getting back to where I was," Embree said after Boston's 10-9 win. "When I was missing, I wasn't missing by much." so giving a two run home run almost costing us the game is an improvement? the guy is 1-4 with 7.00+ ERA..he may have a point. Some one said it on here, and I agree-I am sick of hearing how he is feeling better, ready to improve, just let's get of the f***ing loser and get a reliever he can f***ing pitch (I think the same thing about foulke who just doesnt have it anymore and is a liability but I am not going to say it becasue you all will start going nuts) . Timlin cannot carry the bullpen--we need some arms. how about that manny--he's in one of those hot spells.....He'll be up around .300 in no time at all.

this is getting to be absurd. embree is so f***ing bad!! I dont understand why they keep using this guy, he just sucks beyond belief. what the f***? it just seems endless. loyalty is one thing but this is out of hand.

he doesnt deserve two threads.

oh please...you were being objective but now? Bellhorn kills more rallies than george bush kills soldiers. edgar is hitting almost 270. if you're going to be in love with the worst hitter ont he team, you should be prepared to listen to poeple complain--without getting so defensive. Besides when you're as s***** a hiitter as smellhorn there is only one direction to go and that's up.

of course..he has a right to say anything he wants and he does. I just prefer athletes who play and do thier talking onthe field. I have no interest in curt's feelings, thoughts or comments. Besides he likes Bush and that makes him a moron.. I do like his pitching and that's whAT COUNTS ANYWAY.

lest we forget that is one game out of the entire season, lest we forget he made a key out in the bottom of ninth..luckily johnny was up next... But you are woman enough to admit he's slumping...and thus you';re willinginesss to be objective is something be respected. believe me nothing would make me happier than too see markie mark step it up.

at 227 ....he's barely hitting what ahhchon got on his enlgish section of the SAT's...