Jarren Duran

[L J]

Duran continues to be the proverbial elephant in the room. Above average left fielder. Good teammate in the dugout. Horrific batter, although he gets his fair share of sac flies. So what to do?

[moonslav59]

Just now, L J said:

Duran continues to be the proverbial elephant in the room. Above average left fielder. Good teammate in the dugout. Horrific batter, although he gets his fair share of sac flies. So what to do?

Platoon in LF.

Not sure about the good teammate, but I suppose he could be.

He stiffed his teammates when they went to TOR during covid.

 

[vegasbob]

11 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Platoon in LF.

Not sure about the good teammate, but I suppose he could be.

He stiffed his teammates when they went to TOR during covid.

 

Covid is about as relevant now as watching reruns of the 2011 season games.   Yes, the disease is present and all the governmental actions and shutdowns have been essentially discredited . Many Americans chose to follow common sense rejecting the hysteria and maybe Duran was one of them.

[mvp 78]

58 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

He stiffed his teammates when they went to TOR during covid.

How many people are left on the team from back then? Wong and Whitlock? Is anyone holding against Houck too? Probably not. 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, vegasbob said:

Covid is about as relevant now as watching reruns of the 2011 season games.   Yes, the disease is present and all the governmental actions and shutdowns have been essentially discredited . Many Americans chose to follow common sense rejecting the hysteria and maybe Duran was one of them.

Let's avoid politics and mistruths about "all gov't actions."

Duran let the team down. There aren't many left from that team, so maybe it doesn't matter.

Events with fans have not helped his personna either. If he was my teammate thos events would  bother me.

[moonslav59]

23 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

How many people are left on the team from back then? Wong and Whitlock? Is anyone holding against Houck too? Probably not. 

What's the evidence that he is a "good teammate?"

I bet his teammates loved hearing him call a heckling fan a "fa**ot." 

[Duran Is The Man]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Platoon in LF.

Not sure about the good teammate, but I suppose he could be.

He stiffed his teammates when they went to TOR during covid.

 

you can sure hold a grudge.

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

you can sure hold a grudge.

It's not one issue or event. The guy was all over the map for years. He changed his stance and hitting approach more times than there were seasons played. He sucked on D then got better then sucked again and now is okay.

He's had multiple run-ins with fans- deserving of them or not.

The TOR road trip was but one issue with me.

He has had one great season and two partially good/great seasons. He can't be counted on for offense or defense. He can be the best baserunner in MLB history, but he is not even close to being that. His blunders are legendary.

We need hitting, this year and he's having as bad a season as his first one. He's not getting any better.

Are you saying he should play FT?

I thought I was being generous saying he should be platooned? Benching him for Yoshida/Jones in LF could be a better idea with Romy at DH FT. Romy is better vs LHPs and his 2025 numbers vs RHPs are better than Duran's now.

[mvp 78]

We haven't heard one complaint leaked from anyone about Duran's on or off field behavior. They must put up with him pretty well. We heard complaints about Casas from day one so we know players aren't shy about whining when they don't like someone. My guess is that they like Duran well enough and they can overlook some things that you are unable to since they have a personal relationship with him.

[moonslav59]

11 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

We haven't heard one complaint leaked from anyone about Duran's on or off field behavior. They must put up with him pretty well. We heard complaints about Casas from day one so we know players aren't shy about whining when they don't like someone. My guess is that they like Duran well enough and they can overlook some things that you are unable to since they have a personal relationship with him.

Sounds about right, although players are not quick to speak ill of a teammate, even if they think it. I'm not so sure players whine about others to the media.

He could very well be liked by most or all players- probably not if one was a gay player or cared about gay-bashing.

I don't see "evidence" of being a good teammate, but I do see some instances that could have caused some friction or a feeling of "why'd you say/do that and bring that sort of unwanted scrutiny to the team?" events.

I hope the guy can play like 2024 or even 2025. I hope he starts today. I cheer for him every time he comes up to bat. I don't think I'm holding a grudge to think he deserves to platoon in LF. His numbers indicate he should be benched or worse.

You are the short sample master. Duran has been bad for a pretty large sample size and is getting worse the shorter you make the sample size. Are you saying he should play FT? If yes, why?

[mvp 78]

14 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

You are the short sample master. Duran has been bad for a pretty large sample size and is getting worse the shorter you make the sample size. Are you saying he should play FT? If yes, why?

Do you even read my posts? I've been saying that they need a LFer and he should be a bench guy the rest of the year. I don't even see him as strict platoon bat going forward. 

[moonslav59]

19 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Do you even read my posts? I've been saying that they need a LFer and he should be a bench guy the rest of the year. I don't even see him as strict platoon bat going forward. 

Yes, I remember that and thought of deleting my post as it has nothing to do with how his teammates view him.

My apologies.