Rays (Baz) vs Red Sox (Bello); 6/9/25, 7:10pm

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

5 minutes ago, iortiz said:

It’s really frustrating man in every possible way. 

It would be even more frustrating if the Sox were a contending team.

[Oscars]

The Red Sox with RISP were 4/23.

That is abysmal .

I will happily drive Kelly to the airport to make sure he f ucks off. 
Bernardino needs to take a few days off to improve his fielding. He has 4 errors already this season 

[iortiz]

2 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

we can only pray for that. if it comes true this loss will not be for naught

As much I don’t like Kelly, he wasn’t that bad tonight. Cora walked Aranda giving Kelly little margin of error and Kelly is not made for that at all. These little intangible details have cost us a lot of games. 

[Maxbialystock]

10 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

pretty sure we all knew it was over when he puts Kelly in. guaranteed loss with that dude.

 

9 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

It was over when the Rays went up 3-0. I called it over then. The Flops never took the lead.

You called nothing, you turkey, not when the Sox scored 10 runs and took it to the 11th inning.  

[iortiz]

60 errors thus far? It’s simply brutal. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

5 minutes ago, iortiz said:

It’s really frustrating man in every possible way. 

It would be even more frustrating if the Sox were a contending team.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

5 minutes ago, iortiz said:

It’s really frustrating man in every possible way. 

It would be even more frustrating if the Sox were a contending team.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

"We just got to get better." 

Cora's standard response

Maybe the Sox get better when you get gone.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

11 minutes ago, iortiz said:

It’s really frustrating man in every possible way. 

It would be even more frustrating if the Sox were a contending team.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

11 minutes ago, iortiz said:

It’s really frustrating man in every possible way. 

It would be even more frustrating if the Sox were a contending team.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

11 minutes ago, iortiz said:

It’s really frustrating man in every possible way. 

It would be even more frustrating if the Sox were a contending team.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

11 minutes ago, iortiz said:

It’s really frustrating man in every possible way. 

It would be even more frustrating if the Sox were a contending team.

[Oscars]

Kelly only had 12 strikes in 23 pitches, and walked 3.

He flat out stunk 

[moonslav59]

These gut-punch losses are killing me.

[notin]

21 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

It was over when the Rays went up 3-0. I called it over then. The Flops never took the lead.

Seriously?  You called a 10-8 game over at 3-0?  Why are you bragging about being the fastest to the white flag?

[notin]

8 minutes ago, Oscars said:

Kelly only had 12 strikes in 23 pitches, and walked 3.

He flat out stunk 

Technically he only walked two.  Aranda was intentional…

[FredLynn]

14 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

 

You called nothing, you turkey, not when the Sox scored 10 runs and took it to the 11th inning.  

I called the game over and they lost. I’m almost always right.

But hey-just wait til next year, right?

[FredLynn]

4 minutes ago, notin said:

Seriously?  You called a 10-8 game over at 3-0?  Why are you bragging about being the fastest to the white flag?

They never took the lead. Had they done so it would have been one of the rare occasions when I got it wrong. It does happen. Rarely. But not tonight.

[FredLynn]

13 minutes ago, notin said:

Seriously?  You called a 10-8 game over at 3-0?  Why are you bragging about being the fastest to the white flag?

They never caught up. They lost. I was right.

[Maxbialystock]

Just now, iortiz said:

As much I don’t like Kelly, he wasn’t that bad tonight. Cora walked Aranda giving Kelly little margin of error and Kelly is not made for that at all. These little intangible details have cost us a lot of games. 

"little intangible details" is a pile of crap.  Bernardino was awful tonight while giving up 2 runs.  He walked 1, gave up 2 hits, had a costly wild pitch, and also made a throwing error--and he got just one guy out.  Nonchalant rookie Anthony made a costly error in RF.  The Sox were 4 for 23 with RISP.  What am I forgetting?  Oh, yes, the Rays scored 10 runs,  7 of them earned.  The Sox scored 8, 7 of them earned.   Last night Cora used 8 relievers and tonight Kelly was his 7th.  

The good news is the Sox didn't quit and found ways to come back and tie the score, including 2 freaking runs in the bottom of the 9th.  Also Bello had a quality start and has the 2d most on the team after Crochet.  Story made some good plays at SS and was 2/6 with an rbi.  

 

[FredLynn]

17 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

These gut-punch losses are killing me.

Wait til next year…..or the year after….of the year after that. 
It’s a crap franchise owned by a cheapskate owner and run by incompetent management for years now. The Rays with what-20% of our budget are consistently competitive. We aren’t. That’s why Henry has to sell the team, get out. He doesn’t give a crap about winning any more. He use to. Not now.

[iortiz]

4 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

"little intangible details" is a pile of crap.  Bernardino was awful tonight while giving up 2 runs.  He walked 1, gave up 2 hits, had a costly wild pitch, and also made a throwing error--and he got just one guy out.  Nonchalant rookie Anthony made a costly error in RF.  The Sox were 4 for 23 with RISP.  What am I forgetting?  Oh, yes, the Rays scored 10 runs,  7 of them earned.  The Sox scored 8, 7 of them earned.   Last night Cora used 8 relievers and tonight Kelly was his 7th.  

The good news is the Sox didn't quit and found ways to come back and tie the score, including 2 freaking runs in the bottom of the 9th.  Also Bello had a quality start and has the 2d most on the team after Crochet.  Story made some good plays at SS and was 2/6 with an rbi.  

 

Yet we could have won despite all that, kind of the point. 

[Oscars]

27 minutes ago, notin said:

Technically he only walked two.  Aranda was intentional…

 I’m aware he only walked twice “technically”, but it’s 3 in his stat line.

[moonslav59]

We've devolved into trying to be the first to call a game a loss.

[Maxbialystock]

25 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

"We just got to get better." 

Cora's standard response

Maybe the Sox get better when you get gone.

He had 3 rookies in the game tonight, plus Rafaela in his 2d full season, Narvaez in his first full season, Toro who has bounced around MLB with a lifetime OPS of .656, and Gonzalez whose lifetime OPS is .680 and who has always been a part-time player.  

Oh, and Cora's pitching staff's ERA is ranked 23d in MLB.  

Cora could well get fired, but it will fix nothing.  The pitching stinks and our best hitter/player went on the IL May 23.  The Sox are 6 and 10 since then.  

[FredLynn]

5 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

He had 3 rookies in the game tonight, plus Rafaela in his 2d full season, Narvaez in his first full season, Toro who has bounced around MLB with a lifetime OPS of .656, and Gonzalez whose lifetime OPS is .680 and who has always been a part-time player.  

Oh, and Cora's pitching staff's ERA is ranked 23d in MLB.  

Cora could well get fired, but it will fix nothing.  The pitching stinks and our best hitter/player went on the IL May 23.  The Sox are 6 and 10 since then.  

If we only sucked for this year or last year and this year that’s fine. But it’s been what-five years now?

Something has to change. Can’t fire Henry. Can’t fire the entire roster.

So Cora must go.

[Maxbialystock]

14 minutes ago, iortiz said:

Yet we could have won despite all that, kind of the point. 

Could ain't would.  

[Jasonbay44]

Bernardino is a relief pitcher and he has 4 errors this season. How the hell is that even possible? 

[Maxbialystock]

6 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

If we only sucked for this year or last year and this year that’s fine. But it’s been what-five years now?

Something has to change. Can’t fire Henry. Can’t fire the entire roster.

So Cora must go.

I agree losing provides a compelling argument for firing the manager.  However, it is unarguable that the quality of Sox players, especially the pitchers, has gone steadily down since 2019,  and that's mostly because JH didn't want to keep paying big bucks for pitchers who crap out--like Price and Sale on the 2019 team. 

Also, 2021 was not a bad year, not when the Sox made it to the ALCS.  

 

[FredLynn]

2 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

I agree losing provides a compelling argument for firing the manager.  However, it is unarguable that the quality of Sox players, especially the pitchers, has gone steadily down since 2019,  and that's mostly because JH didn't want to keep paying big bucks for pitchers who crap out--like Price and Sale on the 2019 team. 

Also, 2021 was not a bad year, not when the Sox made it to the ALCS.  

 

This isn’t a small market team with limited resources like the Rays. We should be competitive nearly every year. This is the fourth year in a row where we stink. That’s inexcusable. Something is rotten with this franchise-probably a lot is rotten, starting with the owners.