2023 MLB postseason thread

[Dipre]

I'd take his 2023 season, IL or not.

 

You would have whined a lot about the low IP count.

[Bellhorn04]

You would have whined a lot about the low IP count.

 

100% wrong. You don't know me as well as you seem to think you do.

[Dipre]

100% wrong. You don't know me as well as you seem to think you do.

 

You've changed, man.

[moonslav59]

You mean how he always seemed to get hurt down the stretch? Never talked trash about his postseason resume, just that the guy was good for a couple months on the IL. He proved that again this year

 

I do think he pitched more innings than you expected from him, after leaving NYY and getting older, along the way.

 

111 IP '18 (TOR & BOS) + 22 POs= 133

68 IP '19

182 IP '21 + 21 POs= 202

109 IP '22

144 IP '23 (TEX) + 37 POs=181

[moonslav59]

You would have whined a lot about the low IP count.

 

37 IP in the playoffs, MAN!!!!

[Dipre]

37 IP in the playoffs, MAN!!!!

 

Obviously talking about the 144 IP in the regular season. This team would not have made the playoffs with that contribution alone. It's not a criticism of Eovaldi's postseason. You should answer what I post, not what you want to think I posted.

[moonslav59]

Obviously talking about the 144 IP in the regular season. This team would not have made the playoffs with that contribution alone. It's not a criticism of Eovaldi's postseason. You should answer what I post, not what you want to think I posted.

 

Agreed. I doubt Nate & Eflin get us to glory in '23.

 

I know you were talking about regular season IP, but I think it is fair to point out the guy pitched 37 IP in the playoffs. That is not a common number for the postseason. He only pitched 22 IP in the '18 playoffs. This should count for something, when we are talking about his time pitching. (I get it: if we miss the playoffs, because he misses time in the regular season, what good is his playoff resume.)

 

BTW, 144 IP would be second on the '23 Sox and just 13 IP below #1.

[Dipre]

Agreed. I doubt Nate & Eflin get us to glory in '23.

 

I know you were talking about regular season IP, but I think it is fair to point out the guy pitched 37 IP in the playoffs. That is not a common number for the postseason. He only pitched 22 IP in the '18 playoffs. This should count for something, when we are talking about his time pitching. (I get it: if we miss the playoffs, because he misses time in the regular season, what good is his playoff resume.)

 

BTW, 144 IP would be second on the '23 Sox and just 13 IP below #1.

 

He's a postseason beast.

[moonslav59]

He's a postseason beast.

 

Something we can all agree on!

[Bellhorn04]

Obviously talking about the 144 IP in the regular season. This team would not have made the playoffs with that contribution alone. It's not a criticism of Eovaldi's postseason. You should answer what I post, not what you want to think I posted.

 

He had a 3.1 bWAR, 2.5 fWAR, so he earned his contract. Nobody that's followed his career would have projected him for more than 150-160 innings, so the 144 wasn't disastrously low.

 

He would have been #2 in innings on the Red Sox.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Bellhorn04

[Dipre]

He had a 3.1 bWAR, 2.5 fWAR, so he earned his contract. Nobody that's followed his career would have projected him for more than 150-160 innings, so the 144 wasn't disastrously low.

 

He would have been #2 in innings on the Red Sox.

 

He earned his contract on a rate basis. But the best ability is availability.

[Bellhorn04]

He earned his contract on a rate basis. But the best ability is availability.

 

Well, that's a bit of a simplification. Pivetta has been our most durable pitcher the last few years, but I don't think that makes him our ace.

[moonslav59]

Well, that's a bit of a simplification. Pivetta has been our most durable pitcher the last few years, but I don't think that makes him our ace.

 

We have too many players that are good at one thing but not others.

 

Pivetta is most durable but is inconsistent with performance.

Devers and Casas are great hitters but horrible on D.

Duran has the speed but it doesn't seem to help him get to a plus on D.

I could go on and on.

 

How many very good and all around solid and dependable players do we have?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

We have too many players that are good at one thing but not others.

 

Pivetta is most durable but is inconsistent with performance.

Devers and Casas are great hitters but horrible on D.

Duran has the speed but it doesn't seem to help him get to a plus on D.

I could go on and on.

 

How many very good and all around solid and dependable players do we have?

 

One. The guy who plays Neil Diamond in the 7th inning of every single game, rain or shine, win or lose... signifying to all to get up, stretch, sing, dance, and sprint to the beer line for last call.

[moonslav59]

One. The guy who plays Neil Diamond in the 7th inning of every single game, rain or shine, win or lose... signifying to all to get up, stretch, sing, dance, and sprint to the beer line for last call.

 

Can we trade him for an ace? I'll throw in Dugo and Mata.

[Bellhorn04]

We have too many players that are good at one thing but not others.

 

Pivetta is most durable but is inconsistent with performance.

Devers and Casas are great hitters but horrible on D.

Duran has the speed but it doesn't seem to help him get to a plus on D.

I could go on and on.

 

How many very good and all around solid and dependable players do we have?

 

WAR tells all. And no, we did not have very impressive fWARs in 2023.

 

Raffy at 3.1 and Duran at 2.4 were the only position players above 2, which is about average.