No one would Be happier than loser Chaim Bloom if we get swept by the cubs

[Swiharts Ghost]

He can then trade Xander and no one would blink would they .Chaim Bloom is a garbage GM who has set this team up to fail .Rich HILL ? Winkowski ? WtF are we doing in this must win series ? We are tanking for what ? Prospects Chaim ? F you F Cora F the ownership . Bogey should have been taken care of 6 months ago .I call ******** on this f***ed situation Bloom has created .

[Larry Cook]

Hill got hurt today. We might get to see Bello in five days!

[moonslav59]

He can then trade Xander and no one would blink would they .Chaim Bloom is a garbage GM who has set this team up to fail .Rich HILL ? Winkowski ? WtF are we doing in this must win series ? We are tanking for what ? Prospects Chaim ? F you F Cora F the ownership . Bogey should have been taken care of 6 months ago .I call ******** on this f***ed situation Bloom has created .

 

You’ve gone from zero cred to negative territory.

[notin]

Possibly the dumbest theory out here. Even if the Cubs sweep the Sox, the Sox are still in the playoff picture..

[moonslav59]

Possibly the dumbest theory out here. Even if the Cubs sweep the Sox, the Sox are still in the playoff picture..

 

Too many levels to even begin a critique.

 

[Larry Cook]

Could we trade peanuts to Colorado for shortstop iggy, and then unload bogey to a contender for some sweet prospects?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Could we trade peanuts to Colorado for shortstop iggy, and then unload bogey to a contender for some sweet prospects?

 

I've definitely heard of worse ideas.

[Thunder]

I guess somebody has never heard of injuries

[Bellhorn04]

Could we trade peanuts to Colorado for shortstop iggy, and then unload bogey to a contender for some sweet prospects?

 

You know neither is happening.

 

It's the freakin' bullpen that needs to be addressed.

[notin]

I've definitely heard of worse ideas.

 

I haven’t…

[moonslav59]

Could we trade peanuts to Colorado for shortstop iggy, and then unload bogey to a contender for some sweet prospects?

 

I think the idea of the Sox trying to be sellers and buyers at the deadline is very intriguing, in theory, but I just can't see it happening in reality.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I haven’t…

 

Trading the unproductive, not coming back Bogey is a bad idea. Why?

[notin]

Trading the unproductive, not coming back Bogey is a bad idea. Why?

 

Because we’re in the playoff hunt and his “unproductive” stretch is all of two weeks.

 

But let me guess - now that the Sox lost to a bad Cubs’ team, you think they’re clearly not going anywhere. The 43 wins were the outlier; yesterday was the real Sox team…

[moonslav59]

Because we’re in the playoff hunt and his “unproductive” stretch is all of two weeks.

 

But let me guess - now that the Sox lost to a bad Cubs’ team, you think they’re clearly not going anywhere. The 43 wins were the outlier; yesterday was the real Sox team…

 

It's not the worst idea.

[Bellhorn04]

It's not the worst idea.

 

No, it's not the worst idea. It's just another bad one.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Because we’re in the playoff hunt and his “unproductive” stretch is all of two weeks.

 

But let me guess - now that the Sox lost to a bad Cubs’ team, you think they’re clearly not going anywhere. The 43 wins were the outlier; yesterday was the real Sox team…

 

You've guessed wrong again. As for Bogey, he has 31 RBI, so I'd guess his 'unproductive' stretch is longer than two weeks.

[Bellhorn04]

You've guessed wrong again. As for Bogey, he has 31 RBI, so I'd guess his 'unproductive' stretch is longer than two weeks.

 

Yes, he only hit .337 with an .878 OPS in June. Terrible!

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

This allegiance to Bogey is actually funny. He's just another mercenary selling his skills to the highest bidder. He has no allegiance to Boston.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Yes, he only hit .337 with an .878 OPS in June. Terrible!

 

I guess you don't understand the word 'productive.'

[Bellhorn04]

I guess you don't understand the word 'productive.'

 

If it's all about RBI, I guess that makes Story more productive than Devers.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

SPLINTER, you have to be kidding.

 

 

I certainly wish I was, but the fact remains that Bogey and JD, the 3 & 4 batters, have a combined total of 64 RBI. That is not production.

[Bellhorn04]

I certainly wish I was, but the fact remains that Bogey and JD, the 3 & 4 batters, have a combined total of 64 RBI. That is not production.

 

They've been missing some RBI opportunities, sure. But the back of their baseball cards says what kind of hitters they are. They aren't our problem. The pen is.

[notin]

I guess you don't understand the word 'productive.'

 

So your argument is he’s “unproductive” but he still can be dealt for elite prospects? Explain…

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

They've been missing some RBI opportunities, sure. But the back of their baseball cards says what kind of hitters they are. They aren't our problem. The pen is.

 

That's true, but to fix the BP problem will require some trades and trading unproven or crap players isn't going to get it done.

[notin]

That's true, but to fix the BP problem will require some trades and trading unproven or crap players isn't going to get it done.

 

 

Teams trade for unproven players every July. In fact, nearly every deadline deal involves at least one.

 

Last year the Sox bulked up the pen and got a premier bat while giving up Aldo Ramirez, Alex Scherff, and Michael Chavis. Are we pretending those were elite established players?

Edited July 2, 2022 by notin

[moonslav59]

No, it's not the worst idea. It's just another bad one.

 

Agreed, but what do we get for Bogey?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Agreed, but what do we get for Bogey?

 

 

Until that is determined it's stupid to say it's a 'bad idea.'

[Thunder]

If any of the ideas being talked about in this thread actually happened, we would suck for the next 10 years or so. Maybe more

[moonslav59]

Runs+RBI-HR Leaders

 

84 Devers

83 Story

72 Bogey

70 Verdugo

69 JD

49 Vaz

47 Kike

41 Cordero (in 70-150 PAs less than others on this list)

37 JBJ

 

wRC+

 

170 Devers

147 JD

144 Bogey

115 Vaz

111 Cordero

96 Story

95 Verdugo

 

Others:

192 J Davis

176 Refsnyder

162 Duran

123 Sanchez

 

[moonslav59]

If any of the ideas being talked about in this thread actually happened, we would suck for the next 10 years or so. Maybe more

 

Bogey is gone after this season. Trading him might makes us better in years 2-10.

 

(I'm not for trading Bogey.)