Sale to IL with elbow injury

[notin]

No argument there.

 

It's denigration to call the remarkable 2019 Yankees a joke and "the worst 100 win team in the history of baseball."

 

And I'm no fan of the New York Yankees.

 

Might be worth pointing out the Yankees haven't won 100 games yet. And there big lead in the AL East gives them less cause to go full bore for the rest of the season. If it comes down to a decision of fighting for home field vs resting the rotation pitchers, the Yankees might take the foot off the gas pedal for a bit...

[FredLynn]

So... tax the bullpen during the post-season? Not a good strategy...

 

Thats the other thing about the Yankees: yes, their pen is above average (though not as good as Jacko thinks when compared to many other playoff contenders). In the playoffs managers rely not only on their bullpen pitchers but also on their SPs to give them some innings. And the Yankee starters are very ordinary, for the most part. Their pen will be greatly taxed.

[notin]

Using ERA as a gauge, the Guardians, the Rays, the A's, the Astros, and the Dodgers all have a better bullpen than the Yankees. Now you might say the ERA is a poor marker for excellence, but its not like the Yankees have THE dominant pen. In fact, they are pretty ordinary when compared to other potential playoff teams. The Yankees have a chance for a ring...but they should not be favored to win it because their SP is substandard, ranking 19th in MLB in ERA. There isn't another playoff bound team with that kind of mediocre SPing.

 

tough call on Tampa, whose entire starting rotation seems to consist of Charlie Morton while Snell and Chirinos are out...

[harmony]

Baseball Reference does have them third, behind Houston and just ahead of Atlanta.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2019-playoff-odds.shtml

 

FiveThirtyEight has the Yankees third as well:

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-mlb-predictions/

 

The real race may involve Minnesota, Cleveland, Oakland and Tampa Bay for the two Wild Card slots. One should be left on the outside looking in.

Edited August 22, 2019 by harmony

[FredLynn]

tough call on Tampa, whose entire starting rotation seems to consist of Charlie Morton while Snell and Chirinos are out...

 

Snell is expected back in September; Chirinos will probably be back in September. Glasnow is likely done. Even without Glasnow the Rays have better pitching than the Yankees, though I certainly would not expect them to beat them in any series. I think either Houston or the Dodgers will take out the Yankees, and again the Yankees will have failed this year.

[moonslav59]

FiveThirtyEight has the Yankees third as well:

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-mlb-predictions/

 

 

So, me placing them 3rd may not be so wild & crazy.

[dgalehouse]

It seems kind of weak to be taking pot shots at the Yankees, as we sit sixteen games behind them , fighting ( not very hard apparently) for our playoff lives . Is that all that is left of back to back to back to back ? Pretty weak .

[S5Dewey]

It seems kind of weak to be taking pot shots at the Yankees, as we sit sixteen games behind them , fighting ( not very hard apparently) for our playoff lives . Is that all that is left of back to back to back to back ? Pretty weak .

 

I agree, and if we didn't have poster(s) here continually bragging about how great the Yankees are and how the Sox are out of the race in August it probably wouldn't be happening.

Sox fans are usually a pretty understanding bunch but we do have our limits!

[moonslav59]

It seems kind of weak to be taking pot shots at the Yankees, as we sit sixteen games behind them , fighting ( not very hard apparently) for our playoff lives . Is that all that is left of back to back to back to back ? Pretty weak .

 

What "pot shots?"

 

The team has glaring weaknesses that even Yankee fans know and bitch about.

[Bellhorn04]

It seems kind of weak to be taking pot shots at the Yankees, as we sit sixteen games behind them , fighting ( not very hard apparently) for our playoff lives . Is that all that is left of back to back to back to back ? Pretty weak .

 

It's all part of the give and take of the Rivalry, Denny. We have a Yankee fan here who loves to torment us about Sale's problems and our bleak future, so why shouldn't we be firing back with anything we've got?

 

At the end of the day it's all just for entertainment here anyway.

[dgalehouse]

I agree, and if we didn't have poster(s) here continually bragging about how great the Yankees are and how the Sox are out of the race in August it probably wouldn't be happening.

Sox fans are usually a pretty understanding bunch but we do have our limits!

 

I think we are getting a little too much like the Yankee fans . Becoming what we always hated . A little bragging is fine . No problem with that . Cheap shots are just weak , no matter which side they come from . Know how to win and know how to lose .

[dgalehouse]

What "pot shots?"

 

The team has glaring weaknesses that even Yankee fans know and bitch about.

 

We are sixteen games behind them . Why ? Don't tell me it's because of our rotation. Their rotation is no better . If they have such glaring weaknesses, why can't we beat them ?

[Bellhorn04]

We are sixteen games behind them . Why ? Don't tell me it's because of our rotation. Their rotation is no better . If they have such glaring weaknesses, why can't we beat them ?

 

They've already beaten us for this year, no one's questioning that. It's all about their playoff prognosis now.

[dgalehouse]

They've already beaten us for this year, no one's questioning that. It's all about their playoff prognosis now.

 

As we all know ; anything can happen in the playoffs. The Yankees would certainly be considered one of the top three favorites. But this could be the year the Dodgers grab the ring .

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Yankee fans must be laughing at Red Sox fans who denigrate a Yankee club that holds a 16-game lead over the Red Sox.

 

I don't agree. The Red Sox won it all last year with an historic season. You can't win a championship every year and the Red Sox have fallen off this year--it happens.

 

Yankees fans haven't tasted a World Series game this decade. The Red Sox completely pulverized the Yankees last year in the playoffs. That was the first time the Yankees played the Red Sox in the playoffs since 2004, when the Yankees proved to the world that they were the biggest losers in the history of sports.

 

I don't think Yankees fans are laughing; I think they are crying and they need a championship to wipe away their tears. They are nervous as crap as we get closer and closer to October because, deep down, they know they don't have the starting pitching to pull it off this year.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Carpin]

I don't agree. The Red Sox won it all last year with an historic season. You can't win a championship every year and the Red Sox have fallen off this year--it happens.

 

Yankees fans haven't tasted a World Series game this decade. The Yankees were completely pulverized by the Red Sox last year in the playoffs. That was the first time the Yankees played the Red Sox in the playoffs since 2004, when the Yankees proved to the world that they were the biggest losers in the history of sports.

 

I don't think Yankees fans are laughing; I think they are crying and they need a championship to wipe away their tears. They are nervous as crap as we get closer and closer to October because, deep down, they know they don't have the starting pitching to pull it off this year.

 

27 championships don't really say the yankees are "the biggest losers in the history of sports"

Edited August 22, 2019 by Carpin

[harmony]

I don't agree. The Red Sox won it all last year with an historic season. You can't win a championship every year and the Red Sox have fallen off this year--it happens.

 

Yankees fans haven't tasted a World Series game this decade. The Red Sox completely pulverized the Yankees last year in the playoffs. That was the first time the Yankees played the Red Sox in the playoffs since 2004, when the Yankees proved to the world that they were the biggest losers in the history of sports.

 

I don't think Yankees fans are laughing; I think they are crying and they need a championship to wipe away their tears. They are nervous as crap as we get closer and closer to October because, deep down, they know they don't have the starting pitching to pull it off this year.

This response promises to elicit a laugh.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

27 championships don't really say the yankees are "the biggest losers in the history of sports"

 

The 2004 Yankees: the only team to lose a series after being up 3 games to 0. It happened on the biggest stage in baseball, the ALCS (more people watch the Yankees & Red Sox in the ALCS than the World Series). That makes the 2004 Yankees the biggest losers in the history of sports. Interestingly, Brian Cashman was the architect behind the team.

 

The great Brian Cashman!

Edited August 22, 2019 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Carpin]

The 2004 Yankees: the only team to lose a series after being up 3 games to 0. It happened on the biggest stage in sports, the ALCS (more people watch the Yankees & Red Sox in the ALCS than the World Series). That makes the 2004 Yankees the biggest losers in the history of sports. Interestingly, Brian Cashman was architect behind the team.

 

I usually don't respond to this type of posts but... if you think history started 15 years ago be my guest

[dgalehouse]

This response promises to elicit a laugh.

 

Saying that 2004 proved to the world that the Yankees were the biggest losers in the history of sports is not only not true , but it takes away from what the Red Sox accomplished. The greatest comeback in the history of sports , the soon to be breaking of an 86 year curse , and my all time , never to be equaled , favorite sports moment .

[notin]

27 championships don't really say the yankees are "the biggest losers in the history of sports"

 

But bear in mind the overwhelming bulk of those titles occurred before Curt Flood changed the way rosters were built. Prior to free agency, it was very difficult to turn a team around and make a bad team good.

 

The time between baseball changing the reserve clause and allowing free agency (1972) until free agency started to create exorbitant salaries (which I will say started with Kirby Puckett in 1990) was probably about the most level the playing field was in recent MLB history. In that time frame, the Yankees did win 2 World Series, but they were not the most dominant team in the sport. Not even close...

[notin]

The 2004 Yankees: the only team to lose a series after being up 3 games to 0. It happened on the biggest stage in baseball, the ALCS (more people watch the Yankees & Red Sox in the ALCS than the World Series). That makes the 2004 Yankees the biggest losers in the history of sports. Interestingly, Brian Cashman was the architect behind the team.

 

The great Brian Cashman!

 

I really don't get ripping Brian Cashman.

 

I think he has done a great job. It was easy to call him out when the Yankees were the far and away payroll leaders, but he has been extremely good, especially recently. He's found several hidden talents around the league like Urshela, Voit, and Tauchmann, and acquired them all for basically nothing. (Although he did give up Giovanni Gallegos to get Voit.) Not every GM gets that many hidden gems in that short of a time frame. That does take a special brand of talent recognition. I wish Dombrowski could do something close to that. (Lou Gorman was actually really good at finding scrap heap gems, but I don't think any other Sox GM really shined in this one area.)

[harmony]

Saying that 2004 proved to the world that the Yankees were the biggest losers in the history of sports is not only not true , but it takes away from what the Red Sox accomplished. The greatest comeback in the history of sports , the soon to be breaking of an 86 year curse , and my all time , never to be equaled , favorite sports moment .

I was ecstatic with the Red Sox comeback against the Yankees in the 2004 American League Championship Series. Historic indeed.

 

In the cold evenings of a postseason-less October, Red Sox fans can embrace many warm memories ... but as I write the Red Sox still trail the injury-riddled Yankees by 16 games.

[dgalehouse]

I was ecstatic with the Red Sox comeback against the Yankees in the 2004 American League Championship Series. Historic indeed.

 

In the cold evenings of a postseason-less October, Red Sox fans can embrace many warm memories ... but as I write the Red Sox still trail the injury-riddled Yankees by 16 games.

The Cooler .

[Bellhorn04]

I really don't get ripping Brian Cashman.

 

I think he has done a great job. It was easy to call him out when the Yankees were the far and away payroll leaders, but he has been extremely good, especially recently. He's found several hidden talents around the league like Urshela, Voit, and Tauchmann, and acquired them all for basically nothing. (Although he did give up Giovanni Gallegos to get Voit.) Not every GM gets that many hidden gems in that short of a time frame. That does take a special brand of talent recognition. I wish Dombrowski could do something close to that. (Lou Gorman was actually really good at finding scrap heap gems, but I don't think any other Sox GM really shined in this one area.)

 

Fan_since_Boggs is a hardcore Yankee hater and that informs all his opinions about them. You're wasting your time.

[Slasher9]

I was ecstatic with the Red Sox comeback against the Yankees in the 2004 American League Championship Series. Historic indeed.

 

In the cold evenings of a postseason-less October, Red Sox fans can embrace many warm memories ... but as I write the Red Sox still trail the injury-riddled Yankees by 16 games.

 

2004? we dont need to go that far back.....i'll snuggle up with my 2018 WS tshirt...it still has that "new car" smell.....

[Carpin]

But bear in mind the overwhelming bulk of those titles occurred before Curt Flood changed the way rosters were built. Prior to free agency, it was very difficult to turn a team around and make a bad team good.

 

The time between baseball changing the reserve clause and allowing free agency (1972) until free agency started to create exorbitant salaries (which I will say started with Kirby Puckett in 1990) was probably about the most level the playing field was in recent MLB history. In that time frame, the Yankees did win 2 World Series, but they were not the most dominant team in the sport. Not even close...

 

I agree with you, but every baseball era belong to history and all teams played by the rules, I have no problem with somebody talking about the last decade or any period of time to make a point but my answer was directed to the "biggest loser in history"

[Bellhorn04]

In the cold evenings of a postseason-less October, Red Sox fans can embrace many warm memories ... but as I write the Red Sox still trail the injury-riddled Yankees by 16 games.

 

You've said so several times, and it's the kind of stuff that trolls post.

 

Warm regards and all that, I know.

[S5Dewey]

You've said so several times, and it's the kind of stuff that trolls post.

 

Warm regards and all that, I know.

 

Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck....

[Slasher9]

f*** the yankees

f*** yankees fans.

f*** their 27 championships of which maybe 1 or 2 are legitimate and dont have an * next to it.

so it's 9 vs 2 or 9 vs 27*....either way Red Sox Nation > Yankees Universe

f*** the 2019 over rated yankees. the are the WORST 100 win team in the history of baseball.

these are all FACTS and CANNOT be disputed.