2019 Prospects

[OH FOY]

These are splits this year.

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=656807#/splits/R/hitting/2019/MINORS

 

He hit .237 with the 21 HRS, but he struck out 106 times in 287 at bats. Against RHP, against Lefties forget it.

You sure put a lot of value in HRS. You must have loved Dave Kingman. To me there is more then just Power to a Player.

I look at it this way a guy that Crushes RHP, shouldn't strike out so many times.

Batting 4th with the Power he has he hit .137 for the year, he hit a little better at the bottom of the order.

Probably send him home, and hope he forgets this year. IMO.

Edited September 3, 2019 by OH FOY!

[moonslav59]

These are splits this year.

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=656807#/splits/R/hitting/2019/MINORS

 

He hit .237 with the 21 HRS, but he struck out 106 times in 287 at bats. Against RHP, against Lefties forget it.

You sure put a lot of value in HRS. You must have loved Dave Kingman. To me there is more then just Power to a Player.

I look at it this way a guy that Crushes RHP, shouldn't strike out so many times.

Batting 4th with the Power he has he hit .137 for the year, he hit a little better at the bottom of the order.

Probably send him home, and hope he forgets this year. IMO.

 

You totally neglect OBP, which is much more important than BA.

 

If you want to "forget" a .379 OBP vs RHPs, you're missing the boat.

 

21 HRs in 356 PAs is about 35 HRs per 650.

 

I'll take .379 with 35 HRs and 180 Ks per 650 anyday of the week. It's better than Chavis, Travis and Dalbec's numbers and even better than Moreland/Pearce.

 

2019 is not a fluke. In 2018, he had a .393 OBP and 18 HRs in 336 PAs vs RHPs.

 

That's about 34 HRs over 650.

 

2 years combined: 38 HRs in 692 PAs and a .385 OBP.

 

Now, there's no guarantee he'll do this in the bigs, but all I'm saying is give the kid a chance- assuming a reset-rebuild 2020 season.

 

Why forget 2 years in a row over .900?

 

We paid Moreland big bucks for worse offense than that and half the time on the IL.

 

[OH FOY]

OBP vs. Strikeouts with Men on Base is not what I'm looking for in a Power Hitter, I'm looking for him to Drive in Runs, otherwise you leave tons of men on base, in which he did this year. He led the International League with Men LOB. Contact is important in the game of baseball.

Also he is not a good Defensive 1st baseman and that has been noted.

Anyway it wont matter I understand Dalbec is going to moved to 1st Base, at least that what I understand that's in the Sox plans. Smart too, with Devers.

Edited September 4, 2019 by OH FOY!

[OH FOY]

Like I said send him home and hope he does better next year. Edited September 4, 2019 by OH FOY!

[OH FOY]

You totally neglect OBP, which is much more important than BA.

 

If you want to "forget" a .379 OBP vs RHPs, you're missing the boat.

 

21 HRs in 356 PAs is about 35 HRs per 650.

 

I'll take .379 with 35 HRs and 180 Ks per 650 anyday of the week. It's better than Chavis, Travis and Dalbec's numbers and even better than Moreland/Pearce.

 

2019 is not a fluke. In 2018, he had a .393 OBP and 18 HRs in 336 PAs vs RHPs.

 

That's about 34 HRs over 650.

 

2 years combined: 38 HRs in 692 PAs and a .385 OBP.

 

Now, there's no guarantee he'll do this in the bigs, but all I'm saying is give the kid a chance- assuming a reset-rebuild 2020 season.

 

Why forget 2 years in a row over .900?

 

We paid Moreland big bucks for worse offense than that and half the time on the IL.

 

 

2018 + 2019 Ockimey had a total of 781 At Bats and hit 45 HRS. His Career OBP is .360.

Edited September 4, 2019 by OH FOY!

[moonslav59]

2018 + 2019 Ockimey had a total of 781 At Bats and hit 45 HRS. His Career OBP is .360.

 

If he makes the Sox, it will be a strict platoon man- just like Moreland (vs RHPs) and Pearce (vs LHPs) were meant to be. Sure, it never ends up perfectly a straight platoon, but at least this guy hits the longer end of the platoon (vs the more plentiful RHPs).

 

Besides, .360 is a damn good overall OBP. Let's look at his competition:

 

Chavis: .322 in MLB and .319 in AAA/ .337 in AA (.325 all minor league levels) Plus, he K's almost as much as Ockimey.

Chavis 449 K's in 1757 PAs on the farm (25.5%)

Ockimey 675 in 2353 PAs on the farm (28.6%)

So, the kid K's 3% more times than Chavis, but he gets on base 4% more often. K's suck, but they ain't DPs and the whole moving the runners ahead is exaggerated.

 

Sam Travis has a career .301 OBP in MLB. He's at .339 in AAA and .352 in all minors, but he barely hits for power (.392 SLG in AAA/.419 SLG in minors). Ockimey's overall numbers blow Travis away. Vs. RHPs, he just about doubles Travis's OPS.

Okay, Travis barely K's (357 in 2046 PAs or 17.4%)

 

For reference sake, Moreland has a career .319 OBP overall. He's just .324 vs RHPs, for God's sake, and we paid him $6M x 2 years!!!

Pearce has a career .332 OBP, and he got paid $6M this year!

How is .360 a bad thing?

 

I'm not suggesting Ockimey will have a .360 OBP in MLB, but why not just see what he can do. If he can do what he's done in the minors, and we can limit his ABs vs LHPs as much as possible, he's worth more than Chavis, Travis, Moreland and Pearce.

 

Again, I'm not suggesting he will be better. I would not bet he will be, but give the kid a shot in next year's rebuild season or this September.

 

 

[notin]

I'm not all that wild about Ockimey, Travis or Dalbec. But it is possible at least 2 of them are in Boston next season...

[moonslav59]

I'm not all that wild about Ockimey, Travis or Dalbec. But it is possible at least 2 of them are in Boston next season...

 

I'm not wild either, and my guess is none put up .800+ OPS at 1B next year, but if we reset, 2 should be serviceable enough to not be horrible. Throw Chavis into the mix at 1B, when he's not playing 2B, and we might work out a nice platoon situation with some promising upside.

 

Ockimey is a RHP killer.

 

The others have mixed results vs LHPs or RHPs, but if they can come near their recent 2 year norms on their splits, we could see .800+, but I doubt Ockimey will translate all that well into MLB. (I thought the same with Chavis, so maybe he can do okay.)

[notin]

I'm not wild either, and my guess is none put up .800+ OPS at 1B next year, but if we reset, 2 should be serviceable enough to not be horrible. Throw Chavis into the mix at 1B, when he's not playing 2B, and we might work out a nice platoon situation with some promising upside.

 

Ockimey is a RHP killer.

 

The others have mixed results vs LHPs or RHPs, but if they can come near their recent 2 year norms on their splits, we could see .800+, but I doubt Ockimey will translate all that well into MLB. (I thought the same with Chavis, so maybe he can do okay.)

 

If the Sox do a cheap reset using internal parts for the infield, I think the best lineup might be Lin at 2B and Chavis at 1b...

[moonslav59]

If the Sox do a cheap reset using internal parts for the infield, I think the best lineup might be Lin at 2B and Chavis at 1b...

 

Defensively, yes, but Dalbec/Ockimey/Travis at 1B and Chavis at 2B would likely hit much better.

 

Plus, you dissin' marco?

[mvp 78]

Jay Groome pitched three innings in a Lowell playoff game ... and then was overshadowed completely by Yusniel Padron-Artilles striking out THE NEXT 12 BATTERS in relief.

[moonslav59]

Casas went 2-4 for Salem, and Ward went 6 IP letting up 3 hits and 1 ER.

 

Esplin 2-3 with 2 HRs and a BB.

 

Wow on Padron-Artilles! He ended up with 14 Ks in 6, and the team had 17 total with just 1 BB and 3 hits allowed.

[Bellhorn04]

Jay Groome pitched three innings in a Lowell playoff game ... and then was overshadowed completely by Yusniel Padron-Artilles striking out THE NEXT 12 BATTERS in relief.

 

Good news.

[notin]

Defensively, yes, but Dalbec/Ockimey/Travis at 1B and Chavis at 2B would likely hit much better.

 

Plus, you dissin' marco?

 

I think if Marco got a chance to get 600 plate appearances in a season, my commentary on him would be far from the worst...

[Bellhorn04]

I think a man with the last name Padron-Artilles is surely destined for the majors.

[moonslav59]

I think if Marco got a chance to get 600 plate appearances in a season, my commentary on him would be far from the worst...

 

Well, we might have a season to burn and find out.

 

My guess is, he wouldn't play 600 anyways as Chavis will play more 2B to make room for a kid or two at 1B.

[notin]

Well, we might have a season to burn and find out.

 

My guess is, he wouldn't play 600 anyways as Chavis will play more 2B to make room for a kid or two at 1B.

 

It was a hypothetical scenario. Marco Hernandez at the plate is a combination of Shea Hillenbrand and Alex Cora.

 

He possesses Hillenbrand's hatred of waiting to see a second pitch, and combines that with the sheer raw power of Cora....

[moonslav59]

It was a hypothetical scenario. Marco Hernandez at the plate is a combination of Shea Hillenbrand and Alex Cora.

 

He possesses Hillenbrand's hatred of waiting to see a second pitch, and combines that with the sheer raw power of Cora....

 

LOL.

 

I'm still hanging onto my thin thread of hope for the guy.

[notin]

LOL.

 

I'm still hanging onto my thin thread of hope for the guy.

 

He's a Major League-caliber role player, which is more than can be said for most people. He's a good backup for 2b and 3B and, in a pinch, SS.

 

Overall I think Lin is the better player of the two.

[moonslav59]

He's a Major League-caliber role player, which is more than can be said for most people. He's a good backup for 2b and 3B and, in a pinch, SS.

 

Overall I think Lin is the better player of the two.

 

Lin is better defensively, and I guess he can play OF, too, but I'm clinging to the hope Marco can hit over .720- something Lin will likely not do.

[moonslav59]

Jhonathan Diaz pitched a gem for Salem ( 6 IP 0 ER 2 H 3 BB 8 Ks), and the team came back to score 3 in the 9th to tie the game, but they lost in 10.

 

Casas went 2-5.

[moonslav59]

Nice to see Salem & Lowell have had nice seasons.

 

I know wins and losses mean little on the farm, but some of our kids are stepping up and looking pretty good.

 

Minor Stats:

160+ PAs

OPS

.980 Owings

.943 Corcino

.905 de la Guerra

.863 Jimenez

.847 Wilson

.832 Casas

.817 Dalbec

.813 Ockimey

.813 Tobias

.800 Belen

.799 Decker

.794 Travis

.787 Cottam

.778 Duran

 

HRs

27 Dalbec (21 2B+3B in 471 ABs)

25 Ockimey (19 in 376)

20 Casas (31 in 428)

18 Brentz (17 in 310)

17 Castillo (26 in 460)

 

OPS Against (100+ IP)

.562 McGrath

.583 Ward

.651 Mata

.651 K Wade

.678 K Hart

.686 Haworth

.691 Reyes

.691 J Diaz (not counting today's 6 IP 0 ER 2 H 3 BB)

.724 Houck

 

[moonslav59]

Johnathan Diaz had an ERA of 8.22 in early May. He ended the season at 3.86.

 

In the playoffs, he's gone 12.1 innings without allowing a run (15 Ks).

 

He's a Rule 5 Player, this year. Do we add him to the 40 man?

[jacksonianmarch]

Johnathan Diaz had an ERA of 8.22 in early May. He ended the season at 3.86.

 

In the playoffs, he's gone 12.1 innings without allowing a run (15 Ks).

 

He's a Rule 5 Player, this year. Do we add him to the 40 man?

 

Yes you do. You add anyone with a pulse. Your 40 man beyond the starting lineup and a few pitchers is devoid of talent.

[moonslav59]

Yes you do. You add anyone with a pulse. Your 40 man beyond the starting lineup and a few pitchers is devoid of talent.

 

He's still in single A.

 

I know we have roster space for him, but if nobody will put him on their 25 man roster all year, he may not be protected.

 

Plus, he was ranked like 40th in the Sox system- a weak system- before his end of year surge.

[moonslav59]

Farm All Star Team

 

http://news.soxprospects.com/2019/09/2019-soxprospectscom-all-stars-position.html

 

Another take...

 

https://www.pressherald.com/2019/09/07/thin-red-sox-farm-system-is-not-bereft-of-talent/

Edited September 10, 2019 by moonslav59

[notin]

Farm All Star Team

 

http://news.soxprospects.com/2019/09/2019-soxprospectscom-all-stars-position.html

 

Another take...

 

https://www.pressherald.com/2019/09/07/thin-red-sox-farm-system-is-not-bereft-of-talent/

 

I will say one surprising facet of the Dombrowski regime was his ability to get serviceable and potentially serviceable Diamondbacks' prospects while unloading optionless Sox players who were facing being released...

[moonslav59]

soxprospects.com's updated September rankings:

 

https://soxprospects.com/

 

(Note: Chavis & D Hernandez "graduated", so take that into account when looking at the +/- numbers.)

 

1) Casas (+2 from April)

2) Mata +8

3) Dalbec +1

4) Duran +9

5) Groome +1

6) Jimenez +11

7) Houck -2

8) T Ward +31

9) Song NR in April

10) Chatham -2

 

11) Lugo NR

12) Decker 0

13) A Flores -6

14) Zeferjahn NR

15) C Murphy NR

16) C Cannon NR

17) Aldo Ramirez +31

18) Howell -7

19) M Wilson NR

20) B Bello +1

 

Big Movers in the 20+ ranks:

Minus:

-23 Schellenger (20>43)

-21 A Scherff (18>39)

-17 D Reyes (19>36)

-13 Ockimey (27>40)

-12 Feltman (9>21)

-11 D Diaz (14>25)

-10 Northcut (17>27)

-7 Shawaryn (15>22)

-7 Lakins (23>30)

Plus:

+23 E Bazardo (51>28)

+23 R Fitzgerald (56>33)

+20 C Rafaela (54>34)

+5 K Crawford 29>24

 

 

 

[mvp 78]

Mata and Ward had impressive seasons. Nice to see a slimmer Groome come back healthy. Dude has been a model citizen and has busted his ass.

[moonslav59]

Mata and Ward had impressive seasons. Nice to see a slimmer Groome come back healthy. Dude has been a model citizen and has busted his ass.

 

I think Duran is too high. I've always liked Mata.

 

I'd go:

 

1) Casas

2) Mata

3) Dalbec

4) Groome

5) Ward

 

Big drop off here

6) Chatham (maybe wishful thinking here)

7) Jimenez

8) Houck

9) Duran

10) Fill in the blank ___________