Mookie & Ted, 4th Full Seasons

[bosoxmal]

Sometimes numbers jump around like fish in a pond, so maybe there’ll be a boo or two in here, If so, they’ll be obvious!

 

NOOKIE VS WILLIAMS in 4th full seasons. Adjust for games played, and ???

 

 

WILLIAMS in 1942’(WW2 is on)

 

BA 356

Games 150

HR 36

Runs 141

RBI 147

SO 51

BB 145

TB 338’

Runs 147

TB 338

 

 

MOOLIE in 2018

 

BA .352

Games 75

HR 23

Runs 141

RBI 49

SO 51

BB 43

Rubs 76

TB 198

 

 

Take your pick fellas!

[Dojji]

I lost it at "MOOLIE."

[notin]

I lost it at "MOOLIE."

 

Bosoxmal is a nonagenarian WW II vet. As such his eyes don’t help in preventing the occasional typo.

 

Me? I have no good excuse for mine...

[notin]

Yet somehow he’s sharp as a tack.

 

A couple years ago he posted on BDC that Mookie/Moolie was the best leadoff hitter he’d seen since Rickey Henderson. Naturally I questioned this, citing some of the Cooperstown leadoff guys like Molitor, Raines, Boggs, Larkin, etc. Nope. Best since Henderson.

 

And now, a couple years later, I’m not so sure he was wrong...

[S5Dewey]

Sometimes numbers jump around like fish in a pond, so maybe there’ll be a boo or two in here, If so, they’ll be obvious!

 

NOOKIE VS WILLIAMS in 4th full seasons. Adjust for games played, and ???

 

 

WILLIAMS in 1942’(WW2 is on)

 

BA 356

Games 150

HR 36

Runs 141

RBI 147

SO 51

BB 145

TB 338’

Runs 147

TB 338

 

 

MOOLIE in 2018

 

BA .352

Games 75

HR 23

Runs 141

RBI 49

SO 51

BB 43

Rubs 76

TB 198

 

 

Take your pick fellas!

 

Interesting stuff, Mal. That puts Mookie in pretty good company.

[Thunder]

Bosoxmal is a nonagenarian WW II vet. As such his eyes don’t help in preventing the occasional typo.

 

Me? I have no good excuse for mine...

 

Wow. I was not aware of this. Hats off to you, bosoxmal!

[bosoxmal]

I lost it at "MOOLIE."

 

Mookie & Ted, 4th full seasons

[bosoxmal]

I was a senior, Somerville High, in 1942 and did not turn 18 until December. When we returned to to school after the Christmas holiday, our HS prinical and my English teacher were gone are soon would be. I have no doubt that a lot of good players didn't even get to spring trainging! I don't think it mattered much to Williams wjo was pitching/

[S5Dewey]

I was a senior, Somerville High, in 1942 and did not turn 18 until December. When we returned to to school after the Christmas holiday, our HS prinical and my English teacher were gone are soon would be. I have no doubt that a lot of good players didn't even get to spring trainging! I don't think it mattered much to Williams wjo was pitching/

 

Amazing memory, Mal. ...and I can't even remember what I had for breakfast.

[cp176]

I was a senior, Somerville High, in 1942 and did not turn 18 until December. When we returned to to school after the Christmas holiday, our HS prinical and my English teacher were gone are soon would be. I have no doubt that a lot of good players didn't even get to spring trainging! I don't think it mattered much to Williams wjo was pitching/

 

I love that memory too but what I love the most is your willingness to share those memories with us.

[Slasher9]

Mal is a treasure. Glad he comes here and posts his memories/wisdom....

[Spudboy]

Bosoxmal is a nonagenarian WW II vet. As such his eyes don’t help in preventing the occasional typo.

 

Me? I have no good excuse for mine...

 

I must be the most inept typer on Talksox. And f*** me sideways I can't spell for s***, either.

 

Now that I am officially "old" ( 62 ) my eyesight is exacerbating my efforts.

 

I still don't get much from the comp. Maybe it's all that cough syrup I drank for breakfast.

[cp176]

I must be the most inept typer on Talksox. And f*** me sideways I can't spell for s***, either.

 

Now that I am officially "old" ( 62 ) my eyesight is exacerbating my efforts.

 

I still don't get much from the comp. Maybe it's all that cough syrup I drank for breakfast.

 

Number one - 62 ain't old these days to me. People keep saying that I don't look my age (for sure I don't act it) but they don't know how I feel. I really hope that all of the younger people truly appreciate how lucky we all are to hear stories shared by people who have been following baseball since what - the late 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, etc.- Someone actually seeing Jimmie Fox play!

[bosoxmal]

Amazing memory, Mal. ...and I can't even remember what I had for breakfast.

 

Relative importance maybe?

[bosoxmal]

Thank you

Mal is a treasure. Glad he comes here and posts his memories/wisdom....

 

Thank you! In one pf my 3 (non-selling) books is a poem called, :The Corner of edford and Sycamore" (Winter Hill, Somerville). Describes the aftermoon action when the Daily Recod truck came by, the kid tossed out the papers, and the common cry was, "How'd the Sox do today?" and "Did Foxx hit one today?" Odd part was the scores on the back sheet might be (midd;e of the 6th" or "end pf the 8th" (with the score tied! Drug store on one corner, and a"broken down variety store on another vorner. The papers were fropped off at the drug store!

[OH FOY]

I am a Vietnam Vet, and after all the Pot I smoked in those years, I cant remember my last Post. Probably forget this one in a minute or two.

[SoxHop]

. I really hope that all of the younger people truly appreciate how lucky we all are to hear stories shared by people who have been following baseball since what - the late 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, etc.- Someone actually seeing Jimmie Fox play!

 

I'm not young at mid 40, some of the people here have decades on me. If you really think about it, the years of baseball knowledge on this board is ASTOUNDING. Collectively other than a message board, there's almost no way you could get a bunch of people together that have so many years collectively who have the love of all things baseball.

[SoxHop]

Odd part was the scores on the back sheet might be (midd;e of the 6th" or "end pf the 8th" (with the score tied!

 

I'm guessing they had to get the scores in earlier than the game ends to get the paper printed in time.

 

Talk about a cliff hanger if it was a tight game against a rival. I guess you'd have to wait till the next day to see who won two days before?

[bosoxmal]

I hope you note the number of games played by Betts (75) and Ted (150). makes the comparison a little more valid.

[Spudboy]

I am a Vietnam Vet, and after all the Pot I smoked in those years, I cant remember my last Post. Probably forget this one in a minute or two.

 

lol

[jd98]

I lost it at "MOOLIE."

 

Me too, because the previous mention was Nookie. Not making fun of bosoxmal in any way, but funny typos are funny. I only wish the Nookie and Moolie were switched so we could then say that Nookie has 76 Rubs

 

On topic, Mookie is ridiculous. I had an eye on him even before he broke out in the minors. Thought he'd be really good, maybe near the top of the league in doubles and BA. Didn't expect so much power.

 

And I like that this forum has so many older folks. It's nice to have that perspective, especially when most online forums are overwhelmingly teens/20's (I'm mid 40s).

Edited July 16, 2018 by jd98

[cp176]

Me too, because the previous mention was Nookie. Not making fun of bosoxmal in any way, but funny typos are funny. I only wish the Nookie and Moolie were switched so we could then say that Nookie has 76 Rubs

 

On topic, Mookie is ridiculous. I had an eye on him even before he broke out in the minors. Thought he'd be really good, maybe near the top of the league in doubles and BA. Didn't expect so much power.

 

And I like that this forum has so many older folks. It's nice to have that perspective, especially when most online forums are overwhelmingly teens/20's (I'm mid 40s).

 

Wait - You had your eye on a 6th?round draft pick who at the time was projected to be a second baseman. Whoever drafted him just got s*** lucky. It is what happens with many draft picks. There are no sure things and sometimes greatness doesn't appear until it drops into your lap. We all got lucky.

[Jasonbay44]

Wait - You had your eye on a 6th?round draft pick who at the time was projected to be a second baseman. Whoever drafted him just got s*** lucky. It is what happens with many draft picks. There are no sure things and sometimes greatness doesn't appear until it drops into your lap. We all got lucky.

 

He was a 5th rounder, who was projected to go in the 2nd, and was always viewed as a high potential guy. A lot of teams were worried about Mookie's size and a lot of people thought he wouldn't sign because he was a Tennessee Kid and had a scholarship to play there, IIRC Sox had to overpay the slot in which they drafted Mookie by a lot. I could definitely see someone being early on Mookie bandwagon and falling in love with his play style. I remember the first time I saw him play in the minors, I instantly had a man crush on the guy. He's literally one of the few players I don't see how anyone could hate. I have Yankee fan friends who even love Mookie, they hate playing against him, but they cant actually hate him as a person. I Love the way he plays the game, and especially love his work ethic. He is a very special player.

 

Edit: Here is actually a very good article I found about Mookie regarding why he and Mike Trout fell in their respective drafts, and are now arguably the two best players in baseball

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/index.ssf/2017/02/how_mike_trout_mookie_betts_we.html

Edited July 16, 2018 by Jasonbay44

[jd98]

Wait - You had your eye on a 6th?round draft pick who at the time was projected to be a second baseman. Whoever drafted him just got s*** lucky. It is what happens with many draft picks. There are no sure things and sometimes greatness doesn't appear until it drops into your lap. We all got lucky.

 

No, nothing like that, not that early. Basically early in 2013 before he started getting some hype, so I guess that was the beginning of his breakout rather than before. Bad wording on my part. Just meant before he was a top prospect. SoxProspects didn't even have him top 20 for June 2013. It wasn't meant to be some claim to my great prospecting skills, lol, it's just cool when you follow someone from early in their minor league career and they turn into a star. And he seems to be a great guy too. Probably already my second favorite player ever, behind Pedro.

[jd98]

He was a 5th rounder, who was projected to go in the 2nd, and was always viewed as a high potential guy. A lot of teams were worried about Mookie's size and a lot of people thought he wouldn't sign because he was a Tennessee Kid and had a scholarship to play there, IIRC Sox had to overpay the slot in which they drafted Mookie by a lot. I could definitely see someone being early on Mookie bandwagon and falling in lot with his play style. I remember the first time I saw him play in the minors, I instantly had a man crush on the guy. He's literally one of the few players I don't see how anyone could hate. I have Yankee fan friends who even love Mookie, they hate playing against him, but they cant actually hate him as a person. I Love the way he plays the game, and especially love his work ethic. He is a very special player.

That's a good summary. I saw him in Greenville in 2013. Agree with everything you said.

[dustcover]

Mal you're too modest! I prepared for a recent trip by downloading Lost in Burma on my tablet, via Barnes & Noble, and on my flight I was enthralled by your tales. Particularly the one about the Irish priest.

 

And to the other forum old guys like me, I heartily recommend this book for your reading list.

[cp176]

No, nothing like that, not that early. Basically early in 2013 before he started getting some hype, so I guess that was the beginning of his breakout rather than before. Bad wording on my part. Just meant before he was a top prospect. SoxProspects didn't even have him top 20 for June 2013. It wasn't meant to be some claim to my great prospecting skills, lol, it's just cool when you follow someone from early in their minor league career and they turn into a star. And he seems to be a great guy too. Probably already my second favorite player ever, behind Pedro.

 

Now I get it. I think that I pretty much felt the same way you did after I had watched him a bit. I'll say it again - He is the face of the franchise - also I 'll say again though that no one could have seen this one coming. No scout - no GM - no anybody could have predicted this.

[Kimmi]

I lost it at "MOOLIE."

 

LOL I am not trying to poke fun at Mal, but this had me giggling pretty hard. We all make typos. Some of them end up being pretty funny.

 

I have the utmost respect for Mal and for Oldtimer and very much value their contributions here.

 

Speaking of Mookie, I didn't get a chance to comment on his epic at bat a few days ago. That's the kind of baseball moment you live for.

[Station 13]

Mookie since return from the DL: .402/.509/.674

[SoxnCycles]

Mookie since return from the DL: .402/.509/.674

 

Downright scary.