Yankees 2017-2018 Hot Stove

[jacksonianmarch]

Sabathia re-signed. Sounds like the Pirates asked for too much or JMont is in the deal. Either way, 2018 Yankees are loaded

[jacksonianmarch]

Yankees are continuing with Cole negotiations. That tells me JMont and Frazier are in the deal. We shall see

[yankonyankee]

Will Boras blink from 7/200 for Hosmer and Martinez?

Sox are faced with buying now or bidding in next year's FA class alongside the Dodgers and Yanks, who are positioning themselves financially to minimize loss via tax penalty.

What should DD do?

If the Sox sign both players, are they conceding next year's class to rival behemoths?

Either way, we're seeing some teams amass a wealth of talent while many others are trying to rebuild, restock.

I expect the standings to be more polarized next year.

I don't think that'll spell bad news for people on these boards.

It'll be boring for fans of the losing teams, however.

Why bother watching?

Change the channel or change teams.

It's expensive to go to a baseball game.

Losing teams have to find a way to maintain ticket prices amid a disaffected fan base.

 

I think the Guardians will be all in on this year's class.

Boras has more than just the Sox he can pitch his FA class to.

Guardians time is now. Their window won't last forever.

I'd love to see the Guardians get one of Martinez/Hosmer.

Be a little colder in Boston.

But don't despair, Sox fans, I think DD will get one of the two FA's.

The Sox need a bat.

I hope they get one.

Yanks need some competition.

[Northern Star]

Yanks need some competition.

 

[Northern Star]

Yankees are continuing with Cole negotiations. That tells me JMont and Frazier are in the deal. We shall see

 

Cole is a douche with a chip on his shoulder after crying in public about his salary being too low. He's also not 100% reliable on the field.

[jacksonianmarch]

Maybe he is a douche. But can he regain his low HR rate while dominating the competition in 2018. The addition of CC and the continued talks tells me Montgomery is in play. We shall see

[yankonyankee]

 

Yankees are getting close to that lonely spot.

Every major leaguer is rich and has had their pick.

Whether they're happy yet, ask if the Price is right, David.

CC Sabathia wants another ring.

Money's not the only thing.

But he signed for 10 million.

That can't hurt...

 

Edit: Yanks are on top. 27 Championships and gunning for 28. Background information.

Astros are on top right now, but not for long.

 

mlbtraderumors reports Yanks are in on Evan Longoria as another franchise seeks to liquidate.

I'd wait on Machado. Pick him over Harper due to fielding position.

 

Sox have f'd up a lot. Impatience. They've seen a lot big bat talent succeed on other clubs.

Now it's a need.

Yanks have seen their big bats blossom on their team.

 

That song you linked uses 4 chords.

Do you play guitar?

 

Bill Burr had a good line:

It's our best and your best vs who ever you've got left.

 

Who's competitive next year?

 

Yanks, Astros, Angels, Red Sox, Guardians, Dodgers, Cubs, and Nationals, maybe Cardinals.

Did I miss anyone?

 

The rest of the teams are cannon fodder. BOMBS AWAY!!!

 

I can appreciate your priorities. No need to re-assess.

But Yanks are the favorites to win the division next year.

Edited December 17, 2017 by yankonyankee

[jacksonianmarch]

So where does the manueverings leave us in terms of lineup and bench?

 

C Sanchez

1B Bird

2B Torres

3B Andujar

SS Gregorius

LF Gardner

CF Hicks

RF Judge

DH Stanton

BN Romine

BN Ellsbury

BN Torreyes

BN Wade

 

This will probably be the position player alignment on opening day if no other moves are made. I am sure we will get some infield depth in the form of veteran retread signings, but internally we have the guys capable of fleshing our this team. Wade and Torreyes can start for a bit as well if need be if the two rookies starting aren’t ready. Either way, that’s how I think we go about the club this year

 

1. Severino

2. Tanaka

3. Gray

4. Sabathia

5. Montgomery

CL Chapman

RP Betances

RP Robertson

RP Kahnle

RP Warren

RP Shreve

RP Green

 

For now, very similar to the end of last year. We have depth behind them in terms of starting and relief talent. The rotation is very good and could be elite if Tanaka continues his second half dominance which was more in line with his career numbers.

[OH FOY]

If I were the Yanks, I would do nothing at this point, and let the season come to them. Put Andujar at 3rd base, and wait for Spring Training. There are so many injuries during Spring Training, that other Teams get desperate almost as close to the Trading Deadline.

[jacksonianmarch]

If I were the Yanks, I would do nothing at this point, and let the season come to them. Put Andujar at 3rd base, and wait for Spring Training. There are so many injuries during Spring Training, that other Teams get desperate almost as close to the Trading Deadline.

 

That’s essentially how Cash has worked this offseason. The Stanton deal came to him. The Padre deal was a reaction to get more cash. CC came to him. We can roll with this club and our lineup can carry a couple of rookies. But if something better falls into our lap, then great

[Carpin]

Maybe he is a douche. But can he regain his low HR rate while dominating the competition in 2018. The addition of CC and the continued talks tells me Montgomery is in play. We shall see

 

I heard they were asking for Gleyber in the trade, I doubt this trade will ever happen, unless the price is drops

 

I bet Cashman signed CC as a safety net, nice and cheap deal for 1 yr

[jacksonianmarch]

We can roll with this team and be the favorites to win the division. Cashman gets to sit back and wait for anything else. If the Pirates return to NY and want Acevedo and Frazier for Cole then done. If the Pirates want to roll with Cole, then more power to him. If another arm comes available, we can roll there. Otherwise, keep the cabinet stocked and maybe sign a veteran 3b on a non guaranteed contract to compete with Andujar

[jacksonianmarch]

I am reading that Cash is interested in Corbin still. I hope this is old news and now gone since CC signed. Corbin is a fine back end option, but he is in his final year of control and is essentially a Montgomery clone. We already have Montgomery and we have him for 5 more seasons and at least 2 more years at the minimum. This really doesn't make any sense

[jacksonianmarch]

I know all the talk is about Harper and Machado for next year, but I think if we get the type of production Andujar and Torres can provide, I think we might be major players in the rotation. I’d like to see what a Yankees and Dodgers negotiation can get to for Kershaw

[Carpin]

I know all the talk is about Harper and Machado for next year, but I think if we get the type of production Andujar and Torres can provide, I think we might be major players in the rotation. I’d like to see what a Yankees and Dodgers negotiation can get to for Kershaw

 

What about Stanton for Kershaw straight up????

 

Just kidding, I know it's just dreaming, but ..... feels good to think about it

[bkzwhitestrican]

I think we still need a veteran infielder. Torres will probably start the year in AAA (because of service time) and I would prefer not to have two of Wade/Toe/Andujar in the lineup at the same time. Maybe try to snag Jed Lowrie? As for the starters I'm fine with the current rotation with Adams as the 6th. Would Cole make us better? Yeah, but I don't think by that much. He could be the next Pineda, dominant stuff that does not translate into real production.

[jacksonianmarch]

I’d like one for sure, but I don’t think one is necessary. We’ve got Torreyes, Andujar, Wade and Torres ready. If they flop, we can always bring up Estrada. If they all flop, we can trade for one. The beauty of this lineup is that we can carry two rookies figuring it out and still be an elite offense.

[jacksonianmarch]

Interest cooled on Cole. The Pirates wouldn’t move off Gleyber Torres, which ain’t happening. Yanks are in on Darvish, but they’d need to move payroll to make that happen. My anticipation is they’d get him only if his market dropped, which I anticipate that it wont

[Carpin]

Interest cooled on Cole. The Pirates wouldn’t move off Gleyber Torres, which ain’t happening. Yanks are in on Darvish, but they’d need to move payroll to make that happen. My anticipation is they’d get him only if his market dropped, which I anticipate that it wont

 

The asking price was ridiculous, I still hope Cashman is working on something big.

 

No Darvish please, unless Cashman moves Ellsbury

[moonslav59]

The asking price was ridiculous, I still hope Cashman is working on something big.

 

No Darvish please, unless Cashman moves Ellsbury

 

How about Torres, Frazier, Ellsbury & cash

 

for

 

McCutcheon & Cole

[BudLight]

Interest cooled on Cole. The Pirates wouldn’t move off Gleyber Torres, which ain’t happening. Yanks are in on Darvish, but they’d need to move payroll to make that happen. My anticipation is they’d get him only if his market dropped, which I anticipate that it wont

 

Darvish is overpriced and limits the Yankees ability to make any mid-season moves if necessary. They should continue to pursue a trade for Corbin leaving them some financial flexibility for the season. Darvish went 10-12 last year with an ERA approaching 4.00 and it is rumored he wants $20-25 million. HRs allowed increased and pitching in Yankee Stadium that number is sure to go up. At $10 million CC resigning is a steal!

[Carpin]

How about Torres, Frazier, Ellsbury & cash

 

for

 

McCutcheon & Cole

 

Sounds interesting, but we don't need McCutchen and we really need Torres, there are a couple holes in the IF (2B & 3B)

[moonslav59]

Sounds interesting, but we don't need McCutchen and we really need Torres, there are a couple holes in the IF (2B & 3B)

 

Then, you can trade Garner and free up more cash.

[Carpin]

Then, you can trade Garner and free up more cash.

 

That could be a solution but I just don't see Cashman trading Gardner. He's a good clubhouse presence and while he's not a star he's very consistent and durable.

[Spudboy]

That could be a solution but I just don't see Cashman trading Gardner. He's a good clubhouse presence and while he's not a star he's very consistent and durable.

 

Plus he looks like Doctor Evil.

[moonslav59]

That could be a solution but I just don't see Cashman trading Gardner. He's a good clubhouse presence and while he's not a star he's very consistent and durable.

 

If it meant adding McCutchen and Cole, I think sacrifices could be chosen.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like McCutchen and Cole are overrated.

 

Cutch did have a bounce back season last year but it's still not close to the production he put up in 2014/15.. and I feel like his current reputation as a top player has been riding off of his past greatness. As for Cole, the guy just scares me. And not in a good "oh dayyumm he nastyy" kinda way. There are just a lot of red flags around the guy and he's coming off of a mediocre year. I would maybe say "buy low" but if Gleyber Torres is low, then go $%^* yourself Pittsburgh.

[Carpin]

If it meant adding McCutchen and Cole, I think sacrifices could be chosen.

 

The point is that we don't need McCutchen, I'd love to have him but is just not a good fit

[moonslav59]

The point is that we don't need McCutchen, I'd love to have him but is just not a good fit

 

If you could also trade Gardner to open more spending space, then the "fit" is there.

[Carpin]

If you could also trade Gardner to open more spending space, then the "fit" is there.

 

Still not trading Torres or Florial, those two are my untouchables. I can live without Shefield, Adams even Andujar, but not the first two.