7/20 vs Blue Jays

[BstHcpr]

Absolutely idiotic with the stolen base attempt.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Let's hope this will be the end of the fister experiment.

 

I hope not, there are still so many puns to make...

[illinoisredsox]

Oh awesome! If the game hasn’t sucked enough, let’s put Abad in.

 

I don't get the Abad bashing here. He's done okay this season for the last or next to last guy in the pen. 2.70 ERA in 30 innings, 1.100 WHIP, 3:1 strike out to walk ratio and has 23 scoreless appearances in 30 games.

 

He sucked last year. He's been pretty decent this year.

[BstHcpr]

Oh, look a single after the Runnin' Red Sox run into an out down 3.

[NativeBostonian]

Man, getting fisted will definitely stretch your bullpen out.

[Jasonbay44]

I don't get the Abad bashing here. He's done okay this season for the last or next to last guy in the pen. 2.70 ERA in 30 innings, 1.100 WHIP, 3:1 strike out to walk ratio and has 23 scoreless appearances in 30 games.

 

He sucked last year. He's been pretty decent this year.

Yeah, I've been defending Abad in numerous threads. I don't get the hatred of him. He's been very good, especially for a guy who isn't expected to be one of our better relievers.

[illinoisredsox]

Oh, look a single after the Runnin' Red Sox run into an out down 3.

 

I know you can't assume everything plays out, but would Young's ball to 3rd have been a DP? (Can't see the game, so that's why I'm asking).

[Bellhorn04]

Dagnab it!

[BstHcpr]

I know you can't assume everything plays out, but would Young's ball to 3rd have been a DP? (Can't see the game, so that's why I'm asking).

 

I didn't see Young's AB, but I'm not a fan of attempting to run on Russell Martin down 3.

[NativeBostonian]

Son of a monkeys uncle. Why can’t we score on this guy?

[Maxbialystock]

Absolutely idiotic with the stolen base attempt.

 

Meh. Young was about to GIDP anyway. If Betts makes it to 2d, Pedroia's single brings him home.

[illinoisredsox]

I didn't see Young's AB, but I'm not a fan of attempting to run on Russell Martin down 3.

 

Not saying it was a smart move, just that it may not have mattered given the way the inning played out.

 

I'm guessing Betts has the green light and they give him a sign when not to run. OTOH, he has to use that green light with some game awareness.

[BstHcpr]

Meh. Young was about to GIDP anyway. If Betts makes it to 2d, Pedroia's single brings him home.

 

At the least, Young should have been swinging to protect the runner.

[Maxbialystock]

Suddenly Farrell can't use too many pitcher--Taylor in for Abad.

[Jasonbay44]

I'm glad I played Smoak today. Figured he'd be a good start against Fister.

[Maxbialystock]

I never, ever say this, but there's always the exception. No way, no how is this loss not on Farrell.

[Jasonbay44]

I never, ever say this, but there's always the exception. No way, no how is this loss not on Farrell.

 

If Farrell was the one who decided to start Fister when Sale could've pitched on regular rest, then yes, this loss is absolutely on Farrell.

[Maxbialystock]

If Farrell was the one who decided to start Fister when Sale could've pitched on regular rest, then yes, this loss is absolutely on Farrell.

 

Don't forget that Farrell also left Fister in there after it was apparent he didn't have command of his pitches. Are you suggesting DD said something like, "I want Fister to start and to throw at least 100 pitches no matter what?"

[Station 13]

Having two mandoza hitters before Mookie is a crime.

[Jasonbay44]

Don't forget that Farrell also left Fister in there after it was apparent he didn't have command of his pitches. Are you suggesting DD said something like, "I want Fister to start and to throw at least 100 pitches no matter what?"

I can't logically think of any reasons why ANYONE in the organization would want Fister to pitch when he doesn't have to, but for some reason, here we are, with Chris Sale on regular rest available, and we're starting this guy. This was an all around stupid move by Farrell and/or whoever else decided to do this. Offense is struggling they decided to put out a guy who effectively is a white flag/forfeit? Just dumb.

[d-money]

What a s***** f***ing game! A split against a lousy team like this. Enough of these s***** pitchers!

[Maxbialystock]

Having two mandoza hitters before Mookie is a crime.

 

Meh. Mendoza x 2 scored 2 runs and Betts had 2 rbi's today. Way above par for him.

[Jasonbay44]

What a s***** f***ing game! A split against a lousy team like this. Enough of these s***** pitchers!

 

Its really only one s***** pitcher. We've been getting great starts from everyone (even got a quality start from Brian Johnson), with the exception of Fister.

[BstHcpr]

Meh. Mendoza x 2 scored 2 runs and Betts had 2 rbi's today. Way above par for him.

 

Meh. Because they got a hit today means that they are OK to continue trotting out there.

[d-money]

This team's in a division race and we have farrell pitching the fisters of the world. I rather have Brian Johnson pitching instead. Go with a six man rotation with Johnson.

[BstHcpr]

This team's in a division race and we have farrell pitching the fisters of the world. I rather have Brian Johnson pitching instead. Go with a six man rotation with Johnson.

 

Why would you want to take away starts from the other five starters that are actually good?

[Jasonbay44]

6 man rotations are stupid. I want Sale out there as much as possible. Johnson is inconsistent.

[Maxbialystock]

It's not just the loss, it's the signal to the lineup players who are playing in 88 degrees: "we're going for the price on Wilson." Here's some of the rest of what Brando/Terry Malloy said to Rod Steiger in On the Waterfront: : Terry: It wasn't him, Charley, it was you. Remember that night in the Garden you came down to my dressing room and you said, "Kid, this ain't your night. We're going for the price on Wilson." You remember that? "This ain't your night"! My night! I coulda taken Wilson apart! So what happens? He gets the title shot outdoors on the ballpark and what do I get? A one-way ticket to Palooka-ville!"

 

If Sale starts today, the Sox take the Jays apart. Instead, DD and Farrell are going for the price on Wilson.

[Jasonbay44]

Holy s*** Pedroia is on FIRE right now. We have a game again... Could've potentially tied the game or taken the lead if we didn't leave Fister in so long..

[Maxbialystock]

Meh. Because they got a hit today means that they are OK to continue trotting out there.

 

Sure they were lucky. But don't forget that line from Bull Durham when Costner's character says the difference between a .300 hitter and a .250 hitter is one hit a week. I checked the math: it's true. I don't disagree that Marrero and Holt aren't much in the way of hitters, but I also don't think batting leadoff has hampered Betts rbi potential all that much.