8/12 vs the Dbags

[Station 13]

There will be a lot of dbags on the field tonight.

[mvp 78]

You're talking about Farrell and the Boston Sports Media, right?

[Station 13]

You're talking about Farrell and the Boston Sports Media, right?

 

This is partially correct.

[Spudboy]

I admit that I know almost nothing about the Dbags.

 

However, my Brother In Law had a college roommate that was a beat reporter following the Dbags.

 

He kept in touch with my Brother In Law and told him a joke.

 

A friend of his was attending a game in Arizona and had consumed many beers and was looking much worse for the wear.

 

He was told that he looked terrible. The guy said that he felt like he was going to vomit. But it was okay because it was just the dry heaves.

[a700hitter]

I admit that I know almost nothing about the Dbags.

 

However, my Brother In Law had a college roommate that was a beat reporter following the Dbags.

 

He kept in touch with my Brother In Law and told him a joke.

 

A friend of his was attending a game in Arizona and had consumed many beers and was looking much worse for the wear.

 

He was told that he looked terrible. The guy said that he felt like he was going to vomit. But it was okay because it was just the dry heaves.

LOL! Go Red Sox!!! It is time for Price to be a stopper.

[Bellhorn04]

LOL! Go Red Sox!!! It is time for Price to be a stopper.

 

For Price to be a stopper he has to pitch a 2-hit shutout on 95 pitches and stop Farrell from having to think.

[a700hitter]

For Price to be a stopper he has to pitch a 2-hit shutout on 95 pitches and stop Farrell from having to think.

You might be right.

[mvp 78]

@peteabe Raising Arizona: Pedroia 2B, Bogaerts SS, Betts RF, Ortiz DH, Ramirez 1B, Bradley Jr. CF, Hill 3B, Holaday C, Benintendi LF and Price LHP.

 

Maybe Sox can finally win with the new lineup?

[bosoxmal]

I just hope the 3--4-5 guys are 100%. That's where the most important part of the line up is, and all three are probably not 100%

[bowman]

You might be right.

 

I really can't blame Farrell for everything, but this team has bad carma and something is missing. One night a player is lights out, the next he sucks. Seems like one pitch, one inning does us in. A team most times is a reflection of its manager. Just honestly look how Giardi did everything he could to win the series with all the moves he made. The team responded. We still have a lot of young players on this team that have more growing to do. This team is loaded with talent and should be at least 5 games better in the win column. We need a manager that is in the game, every pitch, and every inning. Bottom line, with the young talent we have and have coming, we need a manager that these kids can relate to and have faith in. Moving forward, I just think a change is needed. Who that next guy is, not sure. I like a manager that doesn't sugar coat things and puts grit into his players. A manager that has fire. A manager that will call out a player. John Farrell has been through a tough year with his medical issues, and now with the way the team is performing. No doubt he is a tough man, but with everything that has gone on, how could he be thinking clearly. Some of his moves and non moves have left a lot to be desired. I hope this team goes off for his sake and all of us. This team has been real fun to watch, but at the same time real frustrating too many times because of the talent we have.

[Maxbialystock]

@peteabe Raising Arizona: Pedroia 2B, Bogaerts SS, Betts RF, Ortiz DH, Ramirez 1B, Bradley Jr. CF, Hill 3B, Holaday C, Benintendi LF and Price LHP.

 

Maybe Sox can finally win with the new lineup?

 

I didn't want to change, but in fact like the new lineup despite it's lack of success. I gather Arizona is starting a lefty. Wouldn't it be nice if we could hit one for a change?

 

As for Price, he is still struggling. For those disparaging Farrell's decisions on relievers, I would remind one and all that right now there no dependable arms in the bullpen. On top of that, there is no reliable gauge on when Price will blow up. The hitting is also erratic, but mostly bad.

[Station 13]

For Price to be a stopper he has to pitch a 2-hit shutout on 95 pitches and stop Farrell from having to think.

 

When Farrell thinks, it's dangerous.

[illinoisredsox]

For Price to be a stopper he has to pitch a 2-hit shutout on 95 pitches and stop Farrell from having to think.

 

The way they've hit behind him most of the time the past couple months, that might only guarantee a tie game.

[illinoisredsox]

I just hope the 3--4-5 guys are 100%. That's where the most important part of the line up is, and all three are probably not 100%

 

At this time of the season, nobody is 100%.

[bosoxmal]

The "NEW" lineup has played two games, Both with only partial service from key players because of injury. When Young comes back (if he eve does) to platoon with the new kid in LF, I think we'll be fine. It's when the relievers start their parade that the "lineup" gets weak.

[Station 13]

Mookie has 15 solo bombs, 10 of them leading off an inning, 6 to lead the game. That's a lot of damage, better if he hits them in the middle of the order.

[Station 13]

Fire Farrell

[d-money]

I am so sick of watching this guy and his struggles.

[d-money]

Management needs to send a message to this team.

[a700hitter]

What a crazy start> Segura hits a lazy flie to CF and Bradley trips and falls on his back turning the ball into a triple. On the very next pitch the batter hits a soft liner that Bradley got a poor jump on but he catches it on the run throws it home and the catcher throws to 3rd to catch the runner going back to 3B. I never saw a game start like that.

 

And yet Price still finds a way to give up 2 runs in the first inning to this horseshit lineup.

[FenwayFaithful]

f***ing Price.

[Station 13]

God, he sucks.

[a700hitter]

I am so sick of watching this guy and his struggles.

Maybe DD can find a way to dump his carcass and eat some of his contract like he did with Fielder -- and he got Kinsler in return.

[d-money]

This f***ing offense now has to score some runs thanks to this *******.

[bowman]

Price zones out and grooves pitches. Totally lost out there.

[bowman]

Maybe DD can find a way to dump his carcass and eat some of his contract like he did with Fielder -- and he got Kinsler in return.

 

Price has an opt out clause. He should take it because this doesn't look like a good marriage..

[Maxbialystock]

I really can't blame Farrell for everything, but this team has bad carma and something is missing. One night a player is lights out, the next he sucks. Seems like one pitch, one inning does us in. A team most times is a reflection of its manager. Just honestly look how Giardi did everything he could to win the series with all the moves he made. The team responded. We still have a lot of young players on this team that have more growing to do. This team is loaded with talent and should be at least 5 games better in the win column. We need a manager that is in the game, every pitch, and every inning. Bottom line, with the young talent we have and have coming, we need a manager that these kids can relate to and have faith in. Moving forward, I just think a change is needed. Who that next guy is, not sure. I like a manager that doesn't sugar coat things and puts grit into his players. A manager that has fire. A manager that will call out a player. John Farrell has been through a tough year with his medical issues, and now with the way the team is performing. No doubt he is a tough man, but with everything that has gone on, how could he be thinking clearly. Some of his moves and non moves have left a lot to be desired. I hope this team goes off for his sake and all of us. This team has been real fun to watch, but at the same time real frustrating too many times because of the talent we have.

 

I have heartburn with Farrell too, but the comparison to Girardi is flaky. Specifically,

 

In game 1 Girardi was the one who left his starter Severino in too long which cost the Yankees the game. Me, I think 5 runs is OK for a starter if you're trying to save your bullpen, but you guys have tough standards. Farrell meanwhile, handled his pitchers to perfection. He kept Porcello in for 110 pitches, 8 innings, and 2 runs. Then he brought in our $9M closer Kimbrel, who promptly disintegrated, but not enough to cost the game. At just the right moment, in came Barnes to get the K and the save.

 

In game 2 Girardi wasn't brilliant. He simply had no choice. His starter couldn't go beyond 1 inning, simple as that. He ended up using 8 pitchers who got away with just 4 runs because our guys were 2 for 11 with RISP. In the 6th Pomeranz typically ran out of steam, and brought in Buch, who, we should note, was now officially a starter, at the right time to get the GIDP on 3 pitches and the Sox into the 7th inning with a 4-1 lead. Then, according to you guys, Farrell blundered by bringing in Barnes, the same guy who got the save the night before and only faced one batter, to get the Sox to the 8th inning, that is, to get three outs. Instead, he gave up 3 hits and 3 runs and got only 1 out. How in the world is that the manager's fault? You guys over-rely on 20-20 hindsight. Next came the newly acquired lefty Abad, who promptly gave up 2 more runs while only getting 1 out. This too was not Farrel's fault. Finally, Tazawa comes in to give up 2 more runs and to get the final out. The only reasonable explanation for that debacle is that bullpen collapsed. They were handed a 4-1 lead and couldn't even hold it for 1 inning.

 

There's more. You guys keep talking about how aggressive Girardi was. I've already pointed out he had not choice for the first five innings. In the final four innings when the game was decided, it was Farrell, not Girardi, who used the most pitchers--5 to 3. Girardi used fewer pitchers because his relievers were getting outs and in fact closed the game with 4 shutout innings. To me it is beyond question that the difference in game 2 was that one team had a good bullpen and the other had a pile of s***. You guys want me to believe Farrell was stupid because he didn't use two starters to finish the entire game in game 2. Lots of luck with that.

 

As for game 3, I agree it is arguable on whether Farrell should have sent ERod back out to pitch the 8th. But guess what? Assuming he did pitch the 8th, Ziegler still comes out for the 9th and is still a good bet to give up some runs because he clearly over-relies on the uncoventional pitching motion and angle of attack.

 

When I look back on the Yankees series what I see is an absolutely horrendous bullpen which would have lost all 3 games if Farrell hadn't intervened in the 9th of game 1. I also see weak hitting. And who was our best reliever in the series? The only guy who was now a starter and only needed 3 pitches to get 2 outs. We don't know if he could have done the same thing in the 7th, but we do know one thing. Once Buchholz left the game, the rest of the bullpen was ready to s*** in their pants again.

 

I am not really defending Farrell because I would have no objection if he were fired today. What I am defending is the notion that the bullpen was our problem in the Yankees series and secondarily our hitting.

[a700hitter]

How many dead teams have the Red Sox revived on home stands? We revivedthe White Sox -- coming within an extra-inning game of getting swept 4 games. We brought the Tigers back into the Wild Card chase, and lost 3 of 4 to the Twinkies. Now we lose to the Yankees who have waved the white flag on the season. Next up, the D'Backs.

[a700hitter]

3-2!! Three run bullet by Hanley!

[FenwayFaithful]

That was smoked.