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So what exactly did you say? Stop being a weasel about it.

 

I said that I believe PEDs were not against the rules in 03 when he was named on the list.

 

Or you could have simply read my previous posts to see what I said instead of being lazy.

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So what exactly did you say? Stop being a weasel about it.

 

I'm just glad that my nonsense got him to admit that Ortiz isn't a cheater and did nothing wrong. Guess we won't have to hear him talk about Ortiz's milkshakes or eyedrops anymore? You're welcome, Talksox!

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You go to a kid who grew up in Cuba or the slums of the Dominican Republic and try to take money back from him. I'm sure as hell not volunteering for that job.

 

Hell I'm not even saying to take money away from them, maybe donating some of the additional signing. They were involving in a cheating scandal... Why do they somehow end up with MORE money afterwards ? Am I the only one who finds that strange ?

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I'm just glad that my nonsense got him to admit that Ortiz isn't a cheater and did nothing wrong. Guess we won't have to hear him talk about Ortiz's milkshakes or eyedrops anymore? You're welcome, Talksox!

 

I never said he wasn't a cheater.

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Posted

Cards lose a se cond and third round pick and some money for hacking the 'Stros.

 

We lose 5 prospects and get a two year ban on international signings for what we did.

 

Am I missing something?

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Cards lose a se cond and third round pick and some money for hacking the 'Stros.

 

We lose 5 prospects and get a two year ban on international signings for what we did.

 

Am I missing something?

 

I'd rather lose the guys we did than a 2nd and 3rd rounder. Also, I don't believe we were "banned" from international signings, just that we could not sign guys subject to bonus pools.

 

You could also say that the Cardinals guy was a rogue employee whereas the Sox was an organizational decision.

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I'd rather lose the guys we did than a 2nd and 3rd rounder. Also, I don't believe we were "banned" from international signings, just that we could not sign guys subject to bonus pools.

 

You could also say that the Cardinals guy was a rogue employee whereas the Sox was an organizational decision.

 

Good points, but I seriously doubt nobody else knew about the how that "rogue" employee got his information. Just my opinion.

 

I will say that the ban on players "subject to the bonus pool" was still significant.

 

We got some awesome players through the international market recently: we often paid penalties for going over the allotted pool limit, but at least we got to sign some top prospects.

 

Moncada

Devers

Margot

Bogaerts

 

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Here's a look at some recent draft vs international signings periods:

 

2014:

Draft: Kopech, Travis, Chavis, Ockimey

Int'l: Moncada, Espinoza, Castillo, C Acosta

 

2013:

Draft: TBall, T Stanki

Int'l: Devers, J Diaz, Y Abar, Hinojosa

 

2012:

Draft: B Johnson, Marrero, P Light

Int'l: J Almonte, W Rijo, V Acosta

 

2011:

Draft: Betts, JBJ, Swihart, Barnes, Shaw, Owens

Int'l: Margot, Pimental, T-W Lin

 

2010:

Draft: Ranaudo, Brentz, Workman, Vitek

Int'l: J Aro, J Linares

 

2009:

Draft: A Wilson, R Fuentes, A Hassan

Int'l: Bogaerts, Iggy, F Montas

 

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