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If you want a player's stats for any particular time frame, the best place to go is to Baseball Reference, then go to the player's game log.

 

Once on the game log, you can click on the starting date and the ending date that you want, and BR will calculate all of the player's stats for whatever period you selected.

 

Here is a link to Castillo's 2015 game log. Click on the two rows that you want, and BR will do the rest. :)

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=castiru02&t=b&year=2015

 

Baseball Reference is the s***.

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I just don't understand the point of bringing in Masterson since the rotation was a relative crapshoot already. High risk low reward signing.

 

Exactly.

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If you want a player's stats for any particular time frame, the best place to go is to Baseball Reference, then go to the player's game log.

 

Once on the game log, you can click on the starting date and the ending date that you want, and BR will calculate all of the player's stats for whatever period you selected.

 

Here is a link to Castillo's 2015 game log. Click on the two rows that you want, and BR will do the rest. :)

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=castiru02&t=b&year=2015

 

Thanks Kimmi.......

 

Looking over the stats......... I thought it would have been better......

 

Not bad though......

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Seattle's another of those teams I just don't care much about either way. They just exist.

 

They were favored to win their div....

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I have to disagree. Masterson's velocity was terrible this year and he was horrendous last year. Also, Miley's era plus is actually better this year than last year. So, I think it's very fair to say Miley and Masterson pitched to their abilities.

 

I think it's fair to say that the way they pitched is not that surprising. Any pitcher at any time can pitch worse than expected. I think it's unfair to say that they pitched to their abilities. Miley's ERA+ is lower than his previous 3 year average. He has pitched better in the 2nd half, much more like we expected.

 

Masterson was coming off an injury. In 2013, he was a very good pitcher. You would expect a fairly young pitcher to rebound when healthy, maybe not to his 2013 level, but certainly better than what we saw this year.

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I just don't understand the point of bringing in Masterson since the rotation was a relative crapshoot already. High risk low reward signing.

 

As I just posted, Masterson was a very good pitcher in 2013. He was injured in 2014. Why would it be unreasonable to think that, being healthy again, he could regain his 2013 form? If he pitched anything like he did in 2013, he would have been a bargain. IMO, it was a low risk, high reward signing. It didn't work out, but it was worth the risk.

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Is Kelly still in? Because no lead is safe with him around.

 

Kelly actually pitched well. Not great, but for him, it was a victory.

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Thanks Kimmi.......

 

Looking over the stats......... I thought it would have been better......

 

Not bad though......

 

Since being called up the 2nd time, his slash line is .339/.373/.518/.891 .

 

His slash the first time up was .230/.260/.284/.544 .

 

Saying this with the usual small sample caveat, that is a HUGE improvement.

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Just saw a headline on Yahoo: American cities most prone to pest infestations. NYC is #1 on the list, but the pests are easy to spot by the Yankees caps they wear.

 

Not surprising at all. LOL

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As I just posted, Masterson was a very good pitcher in 2013. He was injured in 2014. Why would it be unreasonable to think that, being healthy again, he could regain his 2013 form? If he pitched anything like he did in 2013, he would have been a bargain. IMO, it was a low risk, high reward signing. It didn't work out, but it was worth the risk.

 

Because the wheels had completely come off due to the injury. He had a lot to prove and $9 million was too much when we could have picked up any number of #5 starters who didn't have such a huge question mark. Masterson is the definition of a reclamation project who has to take a low deal with or without incentives to prove he can still pitch. This is just one way in which Ben's management of assets (ie cash) is lacking.

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Because the wheels had completely come off due to the injury. He had a lot to prove and $9 million was too much when we could have picked up any number of #5 starters who didn't have such a huge question mark. Masterson is the definition of a reclamation project who has to take a low deal with or without incentives to prove he can still pitch. This is just one way in which Ben's management of assets (ie cash) is lacking.

 

People are too hung up on the $9 mil figure, IMO. That amount for one year did not handcuff the team in any way. Keep in mind the idea of more money for fewer years. Was it too much to pay? Probably, but that answer is more of a hindsight answer than not.

 

Also keep in mind the philosophy the FO was going with of that of a groundball pitching staff with what was supposed to be a good defense. Keep in mind that Vazquez was supposed to be behind the plate. All of that figured in, Masterson was a risk worth taking.

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People are too hung up on the $9 mil figure, IMO. That amount for one year did not handcuff the team in any way. Keep in mind the idea of more money for fewer years. Was it too much to pay? Probably, but that answer is more of a hindsight answer than not.

 

Also keep in mind the philosophy the FO was going with of that of a groundball pitching staff with what was supposed to be a good defense. Keep in mind that Vazquez was supposed to be behind the plate. All of that figured in, Masterson was a risk worth taking.

 

It didn't handcuff the team because they have more money than sense, but it still doesn't make it a correct use of assets. We're just going to have to agree to disagree on the wisdom of signing Masterson because we won't change each other's mind on the subject.

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I think it's fair to say that the way they pitched is not that surprising. Any pitcher at any time can pitch worse than expected. I think it's unfair to say that they pitched to their abilities. Miley's ERA+ is lower than his previous 3 year average. He has pitched better in the 2nd half, much more like we expected.

 

Masterson was coming off an injury. In 2013, he was a very good pitcher. You would expect a fairly young pitcher to rebound when healthy, maybe not to his 2013 level, but certainly better than what we saw this year.

 

I guess we have to agree to disagree.

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Personally I think when the Sox put together the 2015 pitching staff they give the old wheel of fortune a big spin. Every single guy on the staff was risky except for Koji and Taz.

 

I also think that mediocrity was the ceiling for this staff, not the most likely outcome.

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Personally I think when the Sox put together the 2015 pitching staff they give the old wheel of fortune a big spin. Every single guy on the staff was risky except for Koji and Taz.

 

I also think that mediocrity was the ceiling for this staff, not the most likely outcome.

 

This. Not one guy in the original starting five had proved they could be good consistently.

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