2014 Yankees in-game thread

[jacksonianmarch]

I am flat out f***ing embarrassed by this team right now. Score 7 runs against the f***ing Mets and you cannot close the deal? This is the second year in a row that a hot April turned into a s*** may. The second year in a row that we are getting snakebit by injuries. And now, we don't have a first round pick because we decided to sign old man Beltran. I like the McCann and Ells signings as I think they aren't likely to just implode. But Beltran has been a hot f***ing mess and is now injured. Also, Thornton is a lefty specialist ONLY. Why the f*** does Girardi love to throw him vs righties? Beyond frustrated by this f***ing team right now. Time to bring up Bleich to take over the lefty role in the pen and cut Thornton if Girardi keeps using him like this.

[Palodios]

I am flat out f***ing embarrassed by this team right now. Score 7 runs against the f***ing Mets and you cannot close the deal? This is the second year in a row that a hot April turned into a s*** may. The second year in a row that we are getting snakebit by injuries. And now, we don't have a first round pick because we decided to sign old man Beltran. I like the McCann and Ells signings as I think they aren't likely to just implode. But Beltran has been a hot f***ing mess and is now injured. Also, Thornton is a lefty specialist ONLY. Why the f*** does Girardi love to throw him vs righties? Beyond frustrated by this f***ing team right now. Time to bring up Bleich to take over the lefty role in the pen and cut Thornton if Girardi keeps using him like this.

 

Thanks Jacko. It is posts like these that makes many of us want to keep you around.

[Bellhorn04]

I am flat out f***ing embarrassed by this team right now. Score 7 runs against the f***ing Mets and you cannot close the deal? This is the second year in a row that a hot April turned into a s*** may. The second year in a row that we are getting snakebit by injuries. And now, we don't have a first round pick because we decided to sign old man Beltran. I like the McCann and Ells signings as I think they aren't likely to just implode. But Beltran has been a hot f***ing mess and is now injured. Also, Thornton is a lefty specialist ONLY. Why the f*** does Girardi love to throw him vs righties? Beyond frustrated by this f***ing team right now. Time to bring up Bleich to take over the lefty role in the pen and cut Thornton if Girardi keeps using him like this.

 

In fairness to Girardi I think the way he used Thornton last night was pretty standard when the 3 hitters due up are L-R-L. You will often see managers leave the lefty in to face all 3, hoping the RH hitter doesn't hurt them too much.

 

This is also a classic example of why managers like to have LH and RH hitters alternating as much as possible.

 

I would put the blame squarely on the Yankee FO for the bullpen issues. Letting Logan go was another example of their odd penny-pinching in the midst of their megadeals. This is one reason I think they were making it up as they went along this offseason.

[a700hitter]

I heard that CC made a visit to Dr. Andrews. It sounds like the concern is not just for his knee.

[redsoxrules]

There's definitely something wrong with CC, his average FB is 88MPH

[seabeachfred]

Thanks Jacko. It is posts like these that makes many of us want to keep you around.

 

Jacko forgets that some of us (me especially) were going off the deep end a some weeks back and I even decided to take a month off from this board to regain my perspective. The fact is, unless something drastic happens in the next six weeks or so, you could get fans from all five teams together and they would utter just what Jacko is now saying. Right now it seems that none of the teams in the division are ready or able to separate themselves from the rest of the crew. I only keeps my fingers crossed that when and if one does, it will be the Red Sox.

[yankees228]

In fairness to Girardi I think the way he used Thornton last night was pretty standard when the 3 hitters due up are L-R-L. You will often see managers leave the lefty in to face all 3, hoping the RH hitter doesn't hurt them too much.

 

This is also a classic example of why managers like to have LH and RH hitters alternating as much as possible.

 

I would put the blame squarely on the Yankee FO for the bullpen issues. Letting Logan go was another example of their odd penny-pinching in the midst of their megadeals. This is one reason I think they were making it up as they went along this offseason.

 

The back end of the bullpen has not been a problem, at all. They were in a tough spot last night because Betances, Kelley, and Warren were all unavailable. It happens.

[Bellhorn04]

The back end of the bullpen has not been a problem, at all. They were in a tough spot last night because Betances, Kelley, and Warren were all unavailable. It happens.

 

I was overplaying it a bit no doubt. But are you satisfied with Thornton being the primary lefty in your pen?

[Bellhorn04]

Granderson seems inspired.

[yankees228]

I was overplaying it a bit no doubt. But are you satisfied with Thornton being the primary lefty in your pen?

 

I would have preferred Logan, but Thornton is way down on the list of issues surrounding this team. And he was fine last night ... a pop up, a grounder, and bloop. Usually that doesn't result in a run.

[User Name]

Jacko, where's the GT?

[Bellhorn04]

I would have preferred Logan, but Thornton is way down on the list of issues surrounding this team. And he was fine last night ... a pop up, a grounder, and bloop. Usually that doesn't result in a run.

 

I really have to wrap it up with my yammering about Thornton, I know. But I remember watching him for us last year and thinking he was throwing the ball just fine. But guys just kept getting on base against him.

[Bellhorn04]

4-3 after 1. Perfect. This game may make last night's look like a pitcher's duel. Look out bullpens!

[yankees228]

I really have to wrap it up with my yammering about Thornton, I know. But I remember watching him for us last year and thinking he was throwing the ball just fine. But guys just kept getting on base against him.

 

His fastball has been ok this year, in my opinion. Slider has been awful.

[yankees228]

Nuno didn't get a single swing and miss today. This is a guy who will be in the rotation for at least another month. Lovely.

[yankees228]

I am flat out f***ing embarrassed by this team right now. Score 7 runs against the f***ing Mets and you cannot close the deal? This is the second year in a row that a hot April turned into a s*** may. The second year in a row that we are getting snakebit by injuries. And now, we don't have a first round pick because we decided to sign old man Beltran. I like the McCann and Ells signings as I think they aren't likely to just implode. But Beltran has been a hot f***ing mess and is now injured. Also, Thornton is a lefty specialist ONLY. Why the f*** does Girardi love to throw him vs righties? Beyond frustrated by this f***ing team right now. Time to bring up Bleich to take over the lefty role in the pen and cut Thornton if Girardi keeps using him like this.

 

What do you expect? Going into the year we knew some injuries were inevitable, given the age of the team. We also knew that the offense would be somewhere around the middle of the pack. We also knew that the defense, particularly in the infield, was going to atrocious. All of that has proven true, to date.

 

Going into the year the pitching looked like it was going to be really good. I thought they might have a top five rotation in all of baseball. But Nova got hurt. Then Pineda got hurt. CC doesn't seem to be able to succeed with diminished stuff, and now he's hurt. And Kuroda, I'm starting to think, may finally be declining. A team that needed to be carried by it's starting pitching is not going to be able to withstand all of the above. They are mediocre, at best. It is what it is.

[jacksonianmarch]

The pitching injuries have been too much to bear. We'd have been okay if CC and Kuroda pitched to a 4ERA or so and ate innings, but CC looks completely incapable of doing so. Kuroda has shown flashes, so I think he can do it. But losing Nova is big and then losing big Mike, especially with how he had broken out, is painful even more. I thought Nuno would hang in there, but after his last start, I don't know how you can throw him out there. Our best SP prospect isn't ready to handle a full game yet (Banuelos) and we're pretty thin in the upper ranks in terms of starters. I also have no f***ing idea why we keep throwing Thornton out there. The guy has been a complete disaster and we still use him every f***ing game. We just lost Kelley for a little while also. Right now it is Tanaka, Kuroda, and the merry band of cluster f***s. Add to that the fact that McCann has started slowly, Beltran is now injured, and our middle infield has been abysmal, and we're in trouble. But hey, looks like we might have found a diamond in the rough in Solarte

[User Name]

Nice avatar, bitch tits.

[jacksonianmarch]

We could have done better. Jem was around my time as a kid.

[Station 13]

Wright hit a fly ball that would have been a cheap YS HR, but at Citi it's an out.

[jacksonianmarch]

They had a nice stat. First time through, he allows a .272BAA with 18K/4BB. Second on he allows a .200BAA with 40K/3BB. Insane. He is the real f***ing deal

[Bellhorn04]

Tanaka's been unreal so far. What's hard to believe is that every other thing possible has gone wrong for the Yanks.

[jacksonianmarch]

We've had a lot go wrong, but Tanaka has been worth his contract to this point. But we do have the AL's leading hitter at 3B in Solarte. He's been a nice surprise. Our offense, as weak as it may seem, is still the 10th best in baseball. Our problem has been that Pineda cannot stay on the field, Nova is done and CC cannot adjust

[jacksonianmarch]

The thing I love about Tanaka is that he has the deep arsenal of DiceK (when he first showed up) but the confidence of a Cy Young winner and the command of Maddux. He has been awesome

[jacksonianmarch]

Dominance. CG Shutout for Tanaka. I saw a 4 seam FB, a 2 seam FB, a cutter, a slider, a curve, and a split tonight.

[seabeachfred]

Dominance. CG Shutout for Tanaka. I saw a 4 seam FB, a 2 seam FB, a cutter, a slider, a curve, and a split tonight.

 

He's a damn good pitcher and the Mets had no chance tonight. I just wonder if too many batters are swinging at ball low and out of the strike zone against him. It seems that way to me, but as long as they're doing it Tanaka has no reason to change one iota of his pitching plan.

[jacksonianmarch]

Tanaka is throwing that by design. His command is so good that once the hitters start laying off the lower half of the zone, he'll start dotting it with cheese and getting strikeouts. It looked like his primary K pitch last night wa a nasty slider anyway

[Station 13]

He has good secondaries. But his fastball is pretty average. Need to get to him as he usually pound strike 1 to most batters.

[Station 13]

Just realize Tanaka can opt out after 2017, Cashman can't be that insane again?

[jacksonianmarch]

He has good secondaries. But his fastball is pretty average. Need to get to him as he usually pound strike 1 to most batters.

 

He has an average FB? Did you watch the sports science bit about him? His FB spins faster than most, hence he creates upward lift which gives the illusion that it rises. It doesn't actually rise, but it drops less than the typical FB. Also, which fastball are you talking about? He can sink it, run it and cut it. He can throw it straight too.