2013 MLB Draft

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I don't even think its the now velocity they are looking at. He sits low 90s with the capability to touch 94-95. There are a lot of lefties who can do that. I watched his scouting vids, the kid's mechanics need revamping. Add that into the fact that he needs to grow into his gigantic frame and you have a kid who will probably be sitting mid 90s and touch high 90s if they develop him right. That kind of talent from the left side is very rare.

 

Ignoring the ridiculous idea that there are a lot of high school lefties that can touch the mid-90's..... there is also the fact that the kid is just a dynamite athlete.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Really good article by Alex Speier (per usual) on Trey Ball.

 

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/alex-speier/2013/06/07/swinging-fences-trey-ball-what-red-sox-saw-lef?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

Through those types of circumstances, Ball took the mound for the first time in 2013 in a frosty day game in late-March.

 

"He came into the season and obviously, he's very talented. He has all five tools. Being that type of an athlete, it'd be tough to not look at him as a possible everyday guy. He hits with power. He has speed. Everything," recalled New Castle High School coach Brad King. "But he came out of the gates, early in the season, throwing 94 in Game 1. We were playing at Crawfordsville. It's 40 degrees. He comes out on top of his game and he really never looked back. As the season progressed, his off-speed pitches got better, his touch got better and it really became a no-brainer that people were going to look at him on the mound first."

 

Already, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to see why Ball represented an opportunity for the Sox, in the words of scouting director Amiel Sawdaye, to "swing for the fences" with their first-round pick. As a 6-foot-6 lefty whose wiry frame suggests the possibility of more strength and, hence, velocity, particularly when exposed to something other than this spring's climate challenges, and particularly when committing full time to a pitching program, it's easy to think about a fastball that can regularly be dialed into the mid-90s.

 

If Ball -- who put up the usual Nintendo numbers (6-0, 0.76 ERA, 93 strikeouts and 13 walks in 46 innings) that one will encounter in a high-school first-round pitcher -- is a left-hander with the ability to summon that kind of velocity, the notion of potential top-of-the-rotation potential already becomes fairly straightforward to fathom. After all, consider the following list of left-handed starters this year whose average fastball has been 92 mph or better:

 

Derek Holland, Rangers (93.6 mph): 5-2, 2.81 ERA

 

Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers (92.5 mph): 5-4, 1.93 ERA

 

Matt Moore, Rays (92.5 mph): 8-1, 2.95 ERA

 

Gio Gonzalez, Nationals (92.4 mph): 3-3, 3.64 ERA

 

Jon Lester, Red Sox (92.4 mph): 6-2, 3.60 ERA

 

Chris Sale, White Sox (92.3 mph): 5-3, 2.44 ERA

[Standing Room]

The Sox need to change his drop and drive delivery, but that's an easy fix that typically adds velocity. Add in that this guy is already throwing in the mid-90's as a 190 pound 18 year old, he has a plus changeup and scouts are ranking his curve (which he's only thrown for two years) as a potential 60 pitch. Then consider that he's a tremendous athlete with a clean bill of health who has only begun to tap in to their potential playing short seasons in Indiana. They got exactly the kind of high upside talent they were looking for. He was ranked a top 10 talent by pretty much everyone.

 

I said it before the draft, and I'll say it again now - Austin Meadows doesn't impress me. There are questions about his ability to stay at centerfield and it would be a waste to draft a potential corner outfielder with a top 10 pick.

[jacksonianmarch]

Ignoring the ridiculous idea that there are a lot of high school lefties that can touch the mid-90's..... there is also the fact that the kid is just a dynamite athlete.

 

I didn't mean HS lefties. I meant lefties in general

[User Name]

I didn't mean HS lefties. I meant lefties in general

 

No, there really aren't.

[jacksonianmarch]

Chen, Patton (before shoulder surgery), Britton, Logan, Sabathia, Pettitte (younger days), Miller, Lester, Morales, Price, Moore, McGee, Ramos, Romero (before he lost his s***). That's just in the AL East. Lefties who sit around 91 aren't rare. Those who can sit 93-95 are.

[jacksonianmarch]

Its all semantics right now anyway. The kid has a gigantic ceiling.

[jacksonianmarch]

BTW, Law noted that Stanek fell because of a poor final season and was removed from the rotation late in the yr by the Arkansas coach

[User Name]

Chen, Patton (before shoulder surgery), Britton, Logan, Sabathia, Pettitte (younger days), Miller, Lester, Morales, Price, Moore, McGee, Ramos, Romero (before he lost his s***). That's just in the AL East. Lefties who sit around 91 aren't rare. Those who can sit 93-95 are.

 

It is all semantics. However, this list is misleading. We're talking about SP who can sit low 90's and hit mid 90's right now. Half that list doesn't meet the criteria. Even mentioning Petitte is a joke.

[jacksonianmarch]

It is all semantics. However, this list is misleading. We're talking about SP who can sit low 90's and hit mid 90's right now. Half that list doesn't meet the criteria. Even mentioning Petitte is a joke.

 

Pettitte used to be able to. And how do you know this kid will be a starter?

[User Name]

Pettitte used to be able to. And how do you know this kid will be a starter?

 

This whole discussion is based on the assumption that he will be a starter. That's a dumb question.

 

Let's just agree that he's a pick based on projection and move on.

[Standing Room]

Serrano, Denney, Crowe and Brentz are all still on the board. Draft re-starts at noon, Sox pick 8th in round three and 7th every round after. Serrano's probably the best talent, but he also comes with major signability issues.

[jacksonianmarch]

Serrano, Denney, Crowe and Brentz are all still on the board. Draft re-starts at noon, Sox pick 8th in round three and 7th every round after. Serrano's probably the best talent, but he also comes with major signability issues.

 

I heard on another site that Serrano already said he's going to college

[jacksonianmarch]

This whole discussion is based on the assumption that he will be a starter. That's a dumb question.

 

Let's just agree that he's a pick based on projection and move on.

 

We do agree there

[rjortiz]

Red Sox selected high school left-hander Trey Ball with the seventh pick in the draft.

The Red Sox were typically linked to Austin Meadows and Clint Frazier in this spot, and Meadows was out there for them. Instead, they went with a 6-foot-6 left-hander with big-time upside. Ball was also viewed as a first-round prospect as an outfielder, but the Red Sox drafted him for his talent on the mound. Ball throws in the low-90s now and could add velocity. He's a high risk kind of talent, but as rarely as the Red Sox get to pick up here -- they hadn't drafted in the top 10 since 1993 -- it's hard to blame them for shooting for the moon.

 

Rotoworld on the selection of Trey Ball.

[Standing Room]

I heard on another site that Serrano already said he's going to college

 

Most of these players say they're going to college. Serrano's a little different because he's committed to Tenessee and his dad is the coach there.

[Standing Room]

"I just let my advisor handle all that stuff. I’m not saying whether I’m signing or not. The draft is going to determine that for me."

 

-Serrano from two days ago

 

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/jun/05/wil-crowe-kyle-serrano-prepare-for-mlb-draft/

[italstallianion]

I heard on another site that Serrano already said he's going to college

 

The other factor is that the head coach of the college team is Serrano's father. That might muddy the water a little.

[jacksonianmarch]

draft restarts at 1, I have to leave for work at 2:20. f***!

[Standing Room]

Keith Law picked the Yankees as day one winners, so you know they had a bad day. Keith Law is probably the only guy I know of that has prediction powers to rival jacksonianmarch. His mock drafts were a joke. In his last two mocks, he had Moran at #1, Appel falling to the Sox at #7, Frazier falling to #13 and Stewart falling to #16. The only thing he said that I agree with is that Clarkin is the best talent the Yankees drafted.

[jacksonianmarch]

Keith Law picked the Yankees as day one winners, so you know they had a bad day. Keith Law is probably the only guy I know of that has prediction powers to rival jacksonianmarch. His mock drafts were a joke. In his last two mocks, he had Moran at #1, Appel falling to the Sox at #7, Frazier falling to #13 and Stewart falling to #16. The only thing he said that I agree with is that Clarkin is the best talent the Yankees drafted.

 

Clarkin is the guy who I think has a high floor as well as a high ceiling. Judge has a bigger ceiling with a considerably low floor. Jagielo has a good ceiling with a high floor, but he's got the lowest ceiling of the three. Overall, I think Clarkin does end up the better pro of all three assuming good health.

[Standing Room]

On Thursday, with the final pick of the first round, the Yankees took an 18-year-old left-handed starter named Ian Clarkin. He supposedly has the best curveball among any high school pitcher in the draft. But what Clarkin is already famous for are his prerecorded comments to MLB Network, comments which were played immediately after the selection.

 

Clarkin said his favorite player is Jonathan Papelbon, while his favorite baseball moment was when as a 6-year-old, he watched the Diamondbacks beat the Yankees in the 2001 World Series.

 

"I cannot stand the Yankees, so I was actually in tears, I was so happy," Clarkin said.

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/56830/cut-the-kid-some-slack

[jacksonianmarch]

Sox get Denney

[Station 13]

Sox get Denney

 

I like the pick!

[Standing Room]

Love the pick this late in the draft. Don't think he'll stick at catcher, but I was hoping we'd get a decent hitting corner infielder since we don't really have much quality at first base in the system.

[User Name]

Great pick.

[jacksonianmarch]

I want Wahl!

[User Name]

Love the pick this late in the draft. Don't think he'll stick at catcher, but I was hoping we'd get a decent hitting corner infielder since we don't really have much quality at first base in the system.

 

Why? He's supposed to be a very skilled catcher.

[jacksonianmarch]

There goes Milone. He was another kid who the Yankees had on their radar. I wonder if O'Neill is going to NY?

[Standing Room]

Why? He's supposed to be a very skilled catcher.

 

You must be reading scouting reports from before this spring. If he was still regarded as a good defensive catcher, he would have been drafted in the top 10.