Trades before the deadline?

[BornToRun]

Norris vs Peavy.

 

I'd say we made out better than they did.

[jung]

Norris vs Peavy.

 

I'd say we made out better than they did.

 

I would not have wanted to see us with Norris even if we did not do Peavy. I guess I can see how he might be a better fit for the O's.

[dupree]

Norris to the O's

I just dont see Norris as a front of the rotation guy. And if he were in our system instead of the astros he probably been a relief pitcher instead of a starter. The Orioles got better but i thought they needed a bat more than a pitcher. Oh well i dont think it a significant move Bud is no Chuck so nothing to worry about.

[Disciples_of_Mueller]

I don't see Norris faring well in the AL East.

[RedSoxNC84]

Maybe we'll get a winning record off the O's afterall.

[italstallianion]

Now the Orioles gave up the 6th best prospect, a competitive draft pick (which I think is between the first and second round) and another piece. They gave up their 4th best prospect to get K-Rod. Too bad they didn't give up much for Feldman.

[RedSoxNC84]

Well as long as the Orioles continue to make their future back in the basement, I'm okay with that

[jung]

Not a very active period across baseball for all the hoopla. I think teams selling often asked too much and did not get realistic fast enough to force more deals and buyers just did not see enough out there to bite.....almost no activity at all for bats.

[rjortiz]

Now the Orioles gave up the 6th best prospect, a competitive draft pick (which I think is between the first and second round) and another piece. They gave up their 4th best prospect to get K-Rod. Too bad they didn't give up much for Feldman.

 

True, but the Orioles' farm system is not that great. They didn't give up any impact talent.

[BornToRun]

Off topic but Reynolds just said Michael Young is a good defender because "he can catch the baseball and make all the plays" and Verducci said calling him a defensive liability was "going too far".

[rjortiz]

Well as long as the Orioles continue to make their future back in the basement, I'm okay with that

 

They have a pretty solid core in Machado, Davis, and Jones. Gausman and Bundy aren't far from being ready either.

[italstallianion]

True, but the Orioles' farm system is not that great. They didn't give up any impact talent.

 

 

That's to be determined. I liked Delmonico and the reviews on Hoes are pretty good. And it's always good to see the Orioles farm team get worse. I'm not too worried about facing Norris either. I will admit I really did want K-Rod.

[RedSoxNC84]

They have a pretty solid core in Machado, Davis, and Jones. Gausman and Bundy aren't far from being ready either.

 

Not denying that, but their farm system isn't all that great, and they aren't going to be in high draft position since they are playing so well. I feel like between that and giving up their prospects for guys like Norris, they are going to be back in the cellar in a few years.

[User Name]

The only real loss for the Orioles is the amount of puns Hoes would have brought about.

[jung]

Off topic but Reynolds just said Michael Young is a good defender because "he can catch the baseball and make all the plays" and Verducci said calling him a defensive liability was "going too far".

 

Defensive has never IMO opinion been accurately understood in MLB. The stats are not well devised for defense. Just looking at errors for example, the O's are clearly the best defensive team in baseball. However 2-10 across the entire ML's is not separated by more than 12 errors over something like 108 games. That's it. So, a guy does not have to be a sieve to be a defensive liability and I think that is what is behind comments like the one about Young.

 

How much range does the player have??? Does he not even get to balls and would he have more errors if he could get to more balls etc, etc? The stats are trying to catch up. I think Young is a defensive liability. But that is me.

[RedSoxNC84]

The only real loss for the Orioles is the amount of puns Hoes would have brought about.

 

Hoes goes deep.... and it's caught

 

 

There are more creative puns yes, but hearing that during the game is enough for me.

[VA Sox Fan]

The only real loss for the Orioles is the amount of puns Hoes would have brought about.

 

Quit being an antagonizing ass!

[RedSoxNC84]

"Hoes getting under that one... makes the catch"

[RedSoxNC84]

"A shot to left field, and that'll bring home Hoes."

[RedSoxNC84]

"He shoots a big one to left, and it's caught by Hoes!"

[User Name]

Defensive has never IMO opinion been accurately understood in MLB. The stats are not well devised for defense. Just looking at errors for example, the O's are clearly the best defensive team in baseball. However 2-10 across the entire ML's is not separated by more than 12 errors over something like 108 games. That's it. So, a guy does not have to be a sieve to be a defensive liability and I think that is what is behind comments like the one about Young.

 

How much range does the player have??? Does he not even get to balls and would he have more errors if he could get to more balls etc, etc? The stats are trying to catch up. I think Young is a defensive liability. But that is me.

 

The one stat worth its weight in salt (UZR, and it's obviously not perfect) agrees with you. It rates him at a brutal -16.4 UZR/150. There's just no possible way you get rated that badly and don't suck.

[rjortiz]

That's to be determined. I liked Delmonico and the reviews on Hoes are pretty good. And it's always good to see the Orioles farm team get worse. I'm not too worried about facing Norris either. I will admit I really did want K-Rod.

 

Hoes is a corner without much power. I think he's more of a 4th OF type.

 

I like these moves for Baltimore. They made small upgrades without sacrificing their core. Norris and Feldman are both upgrades over Garcia and Hammel, and Rodriguez gives them another quality late inning reliever. They aren't good enough to win the East, but I think a two win bump is a realistic projection from all of these moves. That might be enough to put them in one of the Wild Card spots.

[Jasonbay44]

LJ Hoes is such an awesome ass name. I hope that dude becomes a star.

[User Name]

""Apparently some hoes have just been added to the Orioles' 25-man roster. Fun times will be had".

[rjortiz]

Not denying that, but their farm system isn't all that great, and they aren't going to be in high draft position since they are playing so well. I feel like between that and giving up their prospects for guys like Norris, they are going to be back in the cellar in a few years.

 

I don't know how you can make that leap based on the Norris trade. They may not have a deep farm system, but their best players are under control for at least the next two years, they have two elite pitching prospects in Gausman and Bundy, and they have virtually no long term financial commitments. They'll be able to keep their core intact, and have the financial flexibility to add players around them. I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the $110-$120 million range with the new TV deals and increased attendance at Camden Yards. They are in good shape.

[SoxSport]

Biggest news is Matt Moore to DL with sore elbow.

[rjortiz]

Biggest news is Matt Moore to DL with sore elbow.

 

The Rays have five off days between now and August 22nd. They can use a four man rotation until he gets back. This isn't that big of a loss for them.

[User Name]

Yeah except that Moore is their second-best pitcher, and the extent of the injury is not known. If it's something bigger and he misses the rest of the year, it'd be a crippling blow.

[jung]

Yeah except that Moore is their second-best pitcher, and the extent of the injury is not known. If it's something bigger and he misses the rest of the year, it'd be a crippling blow.

 

"Do not ask for whom the bell tolls....the bell tolls for thee"

[User Name]

^Well played