4/21 vs Kansas City Game 2

[SoxSport]

The one pitcher an inning regimen bites again. Tazawa should have thrown another inning. Then they don't need Miller in the 10th. When a reliever is getting them out, stick with him. The next reliever might not be so sharp. KC used one reliever for 2 innings--one less total releivers.

[Dojji]

My game seats for the Yankees series in July at Fenway

 

Game 1: Section B3 Row K Seat 11

Game 2: Section B2 Row D Seat 11

Game 3: Section B2 Row D Seat 11

 

Will give all 3 in exchange for roundtrip plane tickets from Miami to Boston, or you record a video breaking Miller's arm.

 

Serious inquiries only.

 

Oh stop. Miller isn't the problem. THe bullpen surrendering 2 runs in 4 innings isn't the problem here.

 

The problem is simple: We ran into a team that is roughly equal to us in talent and they got more breaks than we did. Trying to blame that on Miller is inaccurate, and any call, even in jest, to injure another human being is totally unacceptable.

[SoxSport]

Middlebrooks has the patience of a rapist.

 

Time to sit this guy down a few games. He's about 3 for 40. Lost his batting eye since the 3 HRs.

[Station 13]

The one pitcher an inning regimen bites again. Tazawa should have thrown another inning. Then they don't need Miller in the 10th. When a reliever is getting them out, stick with him. The next reliever might not be so sharp. KC used one reliever for 2 innings--one less total releivers.

 

Better yet, use someone in the 10th who does not have a career WHIP close to 2.00.

[Dojji]

The one pitcher an inning regimen bites again. Tazawa should have thrown another inning. Then they don't need Miller in the 10th. When a reliever is getting them out, stick with him. The next reliever might not be so sharp. KC used one reliever for 2 innings--one less total releivers.

 

Woulda coulda shoulda. They beat UEHARA. If there's a guy on our roster who was a good bet to pitch that inning, it was Uehara. Woulda-coulda-shouldaing one of the best pure hitters in the league beating our best power arm is ridiculous. Butler's good enough to beat anyone, and Uehara *was* our best bet at the time to get past him into the soft underbelly of the KC lineup.

 

It was the right move to bring Uehara in to face Butler in that inning, that was the time to bring the so-called relief ace out, but Uehara got beat by a very good hitter. It was our best against their best and they beat us this time, nothing Farrell could have done was more likely to succeed than what he did.

 

They beat our best, they're a good team, it was 3 1 run games and they got a few more breaks than we did, get over it.

[a700hitter]

I really hope Middlebrooks breaks out of this slump.

[seabeachfred]

So that's how you guys get over games? What do people like me, who are underaged do?

 

That is a better way to get over games but I don't drink and my way is lot shittier and rotten. My daughter and wife were away this weekend for a MS walk and just after the game my daughter called me. I said I couldn't talk to her now and hung up. This is one time I will admit that right at that moment I was a total *******. f*** you Andrew Miller.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Oh stop. Miller isn't the problem. THe bullpen surrendering 2 runs in 4 innings isn't the problem here.

 

The problem is simple: We ran into a team that is roughly equal to us in talent and they got more breaks than we did. Trying to blame that on Miller is inaccurate, and any call, even in jest, to injure another human being is totally unacceptable.

 

Obviously, he's not the reason we lost. I'm just pissed off. The game should have never went to extra innings.

[jung]

Would not have thought we would lose both ends of a DH. But we played real sloppy baseball in game 2 and squandered the opportunity to split the DH and take the series. Don't like seeing the Sox drop games that are waiting to be won.

[Dojji]

Better yet, use someone in the 10th who does not have a career WHIP close to 2.00.

 

Like who? Everyone else who was any good had worked today.

[Dojji]

Obviously, he's not the reason we lost. I'm just pissed off. The game should have never went to extra innings.

 

The game went into extra innings because their best hitter beat our best reliever.

 

It happens.

[a700hitter]

This is still much better than the 4th place team that I was expecting, so I am not too upset. You are going to lose some excruciating games along the way.

[BornToRun]

Oh stop. Miller isn't the problem. THe bullpen surrendering 2 runs in 4 innings isn't the problem here.

 

The problem is simple: We ran into a team that is roughly equal to us in talent and they got more breaks than we did. Trying to blame that on Miller is inaccurate, and any call, even in jest, to injure another human being is totally unacceptable.

 

Andrew Miller isn't a human being, he's a steaming pile of s*** with an arm stuck into the left side.

[Station 13]

Like who? Everyone else who was any good had worked today.

 

It isn't uncommon for relievers to pitch both doubleheaders. They been well rested with Friday off, and again Saturday with Buccholz pitching 8 inning.

 

Wilson and Mortensen doesn't mess around like Miller.

[MANNYHOF24]

I think the obvious thing I am going to take away from this weekend series is that we need more offense, I think once David is in the lineup longer and WMB figures it out we will score enough runs. I really like the pitching, minus Miller.

[BornToRun]

So that's how you guys get over games? What do people like me, who are underaged do?

 

Say f*** it and drink anyway.

[Dojji]

This is still much better than the 4th place team that I was expecting, so I am not too upset. You are going to lose some excruciating games along the way.

 

oh yes. And let's take a moment to remember that the reason these games are excruciating is that we had every chance to win both of these games.

 

If you define a winnable game as a game in which you've scored no fewer than 3 less runs than the competition, we have had 1 game where our chances were worse than that all year, to the best of my recollection. Considering we have some key players not hitting, I consider that an important point to bear in mind.

[seabeachfred]

The one pitcher an inning regimen bites again. Tazawa should have thrown another inning. Then they don't need Miller in the 10th. When a reliever is getting them out, stick with him. The next reliever might not be so sharp. KC used one reliever for 2 innings--one less total releivers.

 

Unfortunaely SoxSport baseball is a game of routine and habits and trends. Today it seems all teams follow that pattern or one inning per reliever. It wasn't always this way but it is kind of monkey see, monkey do and all teams are doing it. What we have to keep our eye on is whether John Farrell ever entrusts the disgusting Andrew Miller into a contest with the game on the line. He should be sent down or released and no one should worry that if we did that he would wind up on the Yankees. The guy has no business pitching is such a situation.

 

The first game we lost; we didn't play poorly, the Royals played better. The second game we played like s*** in my opinion. Like the old movie "BAD DAY AT BLACK ROCK" this was our bad day. We must stop the bleeding tomorrow and get back with it, and will some of the guys start hitting again?

[seabeachfred]

Better yet, use someone in the 10th who does not have a career WHIP close to 2.00.

 

Stat---IMHO I don't see John Farrell ever using Miller in such a situation again. He has done a good job for us and most of this calls have been good. Perhaps had we hit better and not made so many dumb mistakes like Ciricaco's for example, we could have won this game in regular time. Miller simply cannot be trusted in a tie game or even one with less than a four run lead. Someone in the organization must like this guy simply because he is still with us.

 

What I hope I never hear from Farrell is the old refrain "I don't want to lose him". That was in the past and in Miller's case losing him might be addition by subtraction. He ruined my f***ing day.

[jung]

I think that until he proves he can come out and pitch effectively in high leverage situations, it makes little sense to throw Miller out there.

 

Even in situations where he has had some success so far, it has been when he has had the opportunity to put a few guys on base before he settles in and gets outs. He had an opportunity to settle in here as well but he has really lived on the edge the whole young season so far continuing to be inconsistent as he was last year. He simply cannot get through a whole inning without getting into deep holes. Sometimes he cannot even get an out without getting into a deep hole.

 

Farrell will have to find ways to use him where he can, meaning where the game is not on the line and see if he can get back on track. Sucks in a way cause Miller does throw hard and you would prefer being able to use him in high leverage situations. He does seem like he could stand to be more focused and a bit more under control when he is on the mound. I often comment that I would like to see Lester free himself up a little more on the mound as he seems super focused and really almost too controlled at times. I would like some of that to rub off on Miller who seems more of a get the ball and throw it kind of pitcher. That would be fine if it worked but it does not seem to be working for him as he goes through these streaks where he just cannot find the plate or is sometimes wild in the zone. Often he regains enough control to save himself but he is usually saving himself from a jam he got himself into. What would happen if he was more often coming into existing jams? Think chances are good he could get outta' those the way he has been pitching?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I think the main reason why I got so pissed, is because it was in extra innings. Always hated them, if we lose, just make it in the 9th so I don't waste my time. It wasn't MillerMs fault, it was definitely Ciriaco's and the offense (9 LOB and 3-12 RISP). Just so disgusting. Not only did we lose in extra innings, but we lose to stupid s***. We beat ourselves and I hate that s***, especially when you could have easily one. Time to let this one go after venting. Not a good sign to lose the series to the Royals at home, when you have the A's coming up next with Doubront and Aceves. All we can do is hope for the best of that series and just forget about what happened tonight. Hopefully tonight was a sign for some players *Looks at Ciriaco, Salty, and very hard at WMB*

[redsoxbeatz]

Hey, the Pirates swept the Braves.

[jung]

The team lost the game. Actually without Vic, there is not much jump in that offense. He is a real catalyst.

 

Miller did not lose the game necessarily and at least in my case, that is not the point. You cannot keep putting him out there to fail in high leverage situations.

[seabeachfred]

The team lost the game. Actually without Vic, there is not much jump in that offense. He is a real catalyst.

 

Miller did not lose the game necessarily and at least in my case, that is not the point. You cannot keep putting him out there to fail in high leverage situations.

 

Unless Farrell is stubborn like some former manager of ours I don't think you will see Miller in those high leverage situations again. He never has been able to harness his ability and unless someone in the organization really still loves this guy it might be time to either send him away or use him as a mop man in hopeless causes. Tonight was not such a cause and once again he was found wanting.

 

And what gives with Victorino? When is he going to be ready to get back on the field. Anyone have any updates on his condition?

[seabeachfred]

Hey, the Pirates swept the Braves.

 

Hey Beatz, does that really make you feel better after what happened to us today? I don't think it really does. We should have had a split today, don't you think?

[crazydiamond]

Just watched the game.

Please, just keep Napoli at #4, I don't care how you do it.

Yes, I do believe Mike Carp is an alien.

And yes, I'd rip out Andrew Miller's beard if I could.

[a700hitter]

This is the first time in a few years that the Red Sox have had 12 wins in April. It looks to be a fairly well-balanced squad. Webster looks like a decent depth option. I didn't think they would go to him this early in the season.

 

One of the keys to the team is Victorino. He's a sparkplug, and a great fielder. A few balls dropped in yesterday that he would have caught. Our OF defense is atrocious when Victorino is not on the field.

[iortiz]

This is the first time in a few years that the Red Sox have had 12 wins in April. It looks to be a fairly well-balanced squad. Webster looks like a decent depth option. I didn't think they would go to him this early in the season.

 

One of the keys to the team is Victorino. He's a sparkplug, and a great fielder. A few balls dropped in yesterday that he would have caught. Our OF defense is atrocious when Victorino is not on the field.

 

Is Victorino ok? Why didn't he play? Yup, he has performed a lot better than I thought and has become a key piece.

 

This was a bittersweet series. We had plenty of opportunities and couldn't get the job done. Frustrating. A's is another tough nut to crack.

[seabeachfred]

This is the first time in a few years that the Red Sox have had 12 wins in April. It looks to be a fairly well-balanced squad. Webster looks like a decent depth option. I didn't think they would go to him this early in the season.

 

One of the keys to the team is Victorino. He's a sparkplug, and a great fielder. A few balls dropped in yesterday that he would have caught. Our OF defense is atrocious when Victorino is not on the field.

 

Ted, it is high time for me to have my Mea Culpa on Victorino. In my now lame defense I was going by what I saw of him in LA last summer where he didn't look good at all at the plate. Was his injuries an excuse or was he really hurting and playing not at peak strength? It has to have been the latter because I have been very impressed with him this season. He looks like the old Shane and I actually had the creeps knowing he wasn't going to play yesterday. The results might have spoken for themselves. We need this guy back in there and as quickly as humanly possible.