ARod Roid Rage

[jopete19]

Just in this morning...

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-01-31/news/a-rod-and-doping-a-miami-clinic-supplies-drugs-to-sports-biggest-names/

 

ARod doping again.

[Dojji]

Here we go again...

[Bellhorn04]

Interesting to see Gio Gonzalez is one of the names.

[jacksonianmarch]

Why does he still suck so bad? I wouldnt put him on the DL, allow the 50 days to expire from the suspension and then bring him back. He needs to do more roids if the ones he's on caused him to hit like a POS

[a700hitter]

Why does he still suck so bad? I wouldnt put him on the DL, allow the 50 days to expire from the suspension and then bring him back. He needs to do more roids if the ones he's on caused him to hit like a POS

I don't think suspensions will result from this.

[Bellhorn04]

I don't think suspensions will result from this.

 

This is becoming a big story in a hurry and Selig has to be pissed. I think he would be more than willing to issue suspensions if the evidence is strong enough.

[BSN07]

Arod is old and most likely been juicing his whole career. His body is damaged from the use to the point where the effects are working as well or at all. This is all guess work on my behalf. Just a theory to Jacko's statement of why he still sucks.

[jacksonianmarch]

This is becoming a big story in a hurry and Selig has to be pissed. I think he would be more than willing to issue suspensions if the evidence is strong enough.

 

Suspensions can only be given for flunked tests, though. The union will have Bud's head if he tried to suspend him. That being said, if they did suspend him somehow, they should just never put him on the DL

[Whiteandnerdy42]

IT'S FINALLY PROVEN THAT A-ROD IS A-ROID.

[jacksonianmarch]

IT'S FINALLY PROVEN THAT A-ROD IS A-ROID.

 

finally? He admitted it already dude. Cat's been out of the bag for 3 years now

[Divinity]

A-Rod's camp issued a statement...

 

"The news report about a purported relationship between Alex Rodriguez and Anthony Bosch are not true. Alex Rodriguez was not Mr. Bosch's patient, he was never treated by him and he was never advised by him. The purported documents referenced in the story -- at least as they relate to Alex Rodriguez -- are not legitimate."

 

Gio has also gone to twitter to deny this.

 

"I've never used performance enhancing drugs of any kind and I never will ,I've never met or spoken with tony Bosch or used any substance"

 

"Provided by him.anything said to the contrary is a lie."

 

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21622251/arod-gio-gonzalez-deny-ped-allegations

[Bellhorn04]

Suspensions can only be given for flunked tests, though. The union will have Bud's head if he tried to suspend him. That being said, if they did suspend him somehow, they should just never put him on the DL

 

According to Verducci, Selig now has power to suspend even without a flunked test.

[Porcupine penis]

So he took more roids after admitting to doing it before?

[VA Sox Fan]

According to Verducci, Selig now has power to suspend even without a flunked test.

 

I heard Verducci on Colin Cowherd's radio show today. Good stuff. He was saying that explains his quick and successful recovery from hip surgery in 2009 and his steller numbers in the post season.

 

I had to laugh! I'll never forget how PISSED I was when A-Rod signed with the NYY over us in 2004. Then he showed his true punk colors w/ Tek in July and w/ Bronson in the ALCS. I was un-PISSED quickly that season. It just gets worse for A-FRAUD!! Bwahahahahahahaha!!!

 

Good "timing", too since it recently came out that he would miss the entire 2013 season after the surgery.

 

And the NYY still owe him $141 million over the next 5 years??? HA HA HA HA

[Northern Star]

A-Rod's camp issued a statement...

 

"The news report about a purported relationship between Alex Rodriguez and Anthony Bosch are not true. Alex Rodriguez was not Mr. Bosch's patient, he was never treated by him and he was never advised by him. The purported documents referenced in the story -- at least as they relate to Alex Rodriguez -- are not legitimate."

 

Gio has also gone to twitter to deny this.

 

"I've never used performance enhancing drugs of any kind and I never will ,I've never met or spoken with tony Bosch or used any substance"

 

"Provided by him.anything said to the contrary is a lie."

 

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21622251/arod-gio-gonzalez-deny-ped-allegations

 

Sounds like the paper trail is pretty large and detailed, though. And sorry, but A-Rod is guilty until proven innocent after lying in the past about PEDs. Anyone who believed he only took them for 3 years was gullible.

[DocHolliday]

Understandably, Arod has been at the forefront of today's news.

 

But the bigger issue to me is whether this is a practice among a small set of players or are we seeing the tip of the iceberg of a widespread PED epidemic with players in today's drug prevention and drug testing era. Outside of Arod, the other players mentioned in the story all began their careers after drug testing became official in 2004. If the allegations are true (and the issue is more widespread than a few players), it could be a clear indicator that not only are the masking agents ahead of the testing standards, but the league's penalties for a failed test need to be re-examined as well.

 

I know the player's union would never agree to such a policy, but to me, nothing would fix this problem faster and more efficiently than to institute much higher monetary fines/penalties than the $10K fine for first time offenders. Even for the players making league minimum, $10K is barely enough to make any significant financial impact on the player.

[Lucienbel]

Interesting to see Gio Gonzalez is one of the names.

 

Agreed. Guy never really struck me as someone who would have done that, kind of just figured he was having that break out year everyone thought he was going to have.

 

Whether these records go on to prove anything or anyone is punished is to be seen, but this really isn't the kind of publicity that the sport needs and it's too bad to see that this is such a question. Feels like there was a lot of these stories this year, but maybe that's just because some of the names involved this year were actually guys I've heard of.

[cbbosox]

Great sign off on the planet Mikey show last night.

"everbody have a good night" unless you're ray lewis or arod

[a700hitter]

Agreed. Guy never really struck me as someone who would have done that, kind of just figured he was having that break out year everyone thought he was going to have.

 

Whether these records go on to prove anything or anyone is punished is to be seen, but this really isn't the kind of publicity that the sport needs and it's too bad to see that this is such a question. Feels like there was a lot of these stories this year, but maybe that's just because some of the names involved this year were actually guys I've heard of.

Last off season, the MVP, Ryan Braun got tied to PEDs and this year, the guy who finished in third place for the CY Young award is implicated with PEDs. Not good news for MLB.

[Palodios]

Last off season, the MVP, Ryan Braun got tied to PEDs and this year, the guy who finished in third place for the CY Young award is implicated with PEDs. Not good news for MLB.

 

Sounds like you've forgotten about the 2012 unoffical NL Batting Champion, Melky Cabrera.

[jacksonianmarch]

This whole PED thing is pretty funny, though. I had read another doc's opinion that IGF-1 isnt delivered orally, so while the spray may contain massive amounts of it, it isnt absorbed and is likely just dissolved in the stomach. These guys are trying to cheat but are only getting placebo effect

[a700hitter]

Sounds like you've forgotten about the 2012 unoffical NL Batting Champion, Melky Cabrera.

Yep, I did forget.

[BSN07]

Lance Armstrong never failed a test in a sport that has the best testing and he was using the entire time. It's not a stretch to believe players are following the same kind of vigorous regiment.

 

This is just another sign that testing is pointless. People just need to get over the fact competitive players are always going to look for an edge or certain people are going to push the limits to get the ultimate pay day.

 

IMO the only way to stem the flow of PED use is to make the punishment financial. Players don't care about the game suspension as they are still getting decent pays days afterwards or are already on big contracts and are financially secure. What they need to do is if your busted you automatically make league minimum for a league year. Means if you get busted in July, your on league minimum deal until the following July. You get busted twice your current deal is voided and you for go the right of multi year contracts and are on league minimum single years deals for 2 seasons. Busted a third time and the remainder of your major league career you will eligible to sign league min deal. They have to take away the financial gain for it too have any effect.

[Lucienbel]

Lance Armstrong never failed a test in a sport that has the best testing and he was using the entire time. It's not a stretch to believe players are following the same kind of vigorous regiment.

 

This is just another sign that testing is pointless. People just need to get over the fact competitive players are always going to look for an edge or certain people are going to push the limits to get the ultimate pay day.

 

IMO the only way to stem the flow of PED use is to make the punishment financial. Players don't care about the game suspension as they are still getting decent pays days afterwards or are already on big contracts and are financially secure. What they need to do is if your busted you automatically make league minimum for a league year. Means if you get busted in July, your on league minimum deal until the following July. You get busted twice your current deal is voided and you for go the right of multi year contracts and are on league minimum single years deals for 2 seasons. Busted a third time and the remainder of your major league career you will eligible to sign league min deal. They have to take away the financial gain for it too have any effect.

 

I don't know if the argument that one guy got past the most rigorous testing out there validates saying PED testing is pointless. There will always be a few people to pass through the most rigorous standards of anything without people noticing, it happens in every facet of almost everything.

 

However, I do think there is credibility to the financial argument. Having an impact on someones lively hood and lifestyle would assumably be a good deterrent.

[Bellhorn04]

Posted: Mon February 4, 2013 6:12PM; Updated: Mon February 4, 2013 6:12PM

Tom Verducci>INSIDE BASEBALL

 

As A-Rod's alleged doping pattern is revealed, MLB turns up heat

 

Alex Rodriguez was implicated in a report last week alleging he was given performance-enhancing drugs from 2009-12.

 

The notebooks reported to belong to Florida wellness clinician Tony Bosch connect New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez to a staggering array of drugs and supplements to be used literally morning, noon and night and through multiple delivery systems, including lozenges, creams and injections. Those notes, parts of which the Miami New Times have published online, provide the road map Major League Baseball investigators have begun to follow.

 

A contingent of MLB officials met in Miami on Monday with New Times staff members to learn more about the notebooks, how they were acquired, the names of other players not named in the report and the possibility of the New Times turning over those documents.

 

Investigators also intend to follow Bosch's notes to see if they lead to corroborating evidence, such as receipts for plane trips and overnight packages, according to a source close to the investigation. The source said investigators also are tracking packages tied to Juan Nunez, a player confidante who formerly worked for agents Sam and Seth Levinson and who was a co-conspirator with Melky Cabrera of a web site scam staged after a failed drug test by Cabrera last year.

 

New Times editor Chuck Strouse confirmed MLB officials asked for the notebooks and logs but that the publication had not yet decided about how to respond to the request. "We are deliberating," he said.

 

Strouse said the publication has received only one response from legal representatives of any of the named persons in the report -- and that was what he termed an "aggressive letter" questioning whether the report violated federal HIPAA laws, which are designed to protect patient privacy under care of health care providers.

 

The notebooks contain a trove of information from 2009-12, especially about Rodriguez and a suggested volume of doping almost unheard of in baseball. The documents released by the New Times connect Rodriguez to at least 19 drugs and supplements, including the banned substances testosterone, HGH and IGF-1, and define one doping regimen that includes as many 19 injections: four subcutaneous injections of IGF-1, nine shots of CJC (a growth hormone releasing hormone) and GHRP (growth hormone releasing peptide), and six shots of HGH at 2.5 international units.

 

Rodriguez, through a statement, has denied being treated by Bosch and characterized the documents as "not legitimate." Bosch has issued a statement denying an association with the named players.

 

"The only thing that surprises me is . . . to be using that much is a surprise," said Gary Wadler, a past chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency's prohibited list. "I don't think any particular substance is the issue as long as you have one banned substance. The fact of the matter if he's doping, if it's two substances or five substances, as long as you have one banned substance, you're doping. The other thing you see are the various delivery systems of doping, whether under the skin or [by] mouth."

 

According to the Bosch notes, the failed test of Cabrera -- which occurred in July and confirmed in August -- appeared to be the tipping point for a financially stretched Bosch, and possibly the demise of his since shuttered Biogenesis clinic in Coral Gables, Fla. Upon Cabrera's suspension, Bosch wrote a letter addressed to "Juan" in which he sought $14,000 in payments from Cabrera, including what Bosch described as a $5,000 "All-Star bonus" for helping him make the All-Star team.

 

Bosch appears to use "food" as a code name for his drugs, as in "I am out thousands of dollars [because] I bought this month's food," as well as explaining, "I would like to send all the food out immediately to you so you may distribute it . . ."

 

In the letter Bosch also complained that the rift between him and Cabrera threatened to harm his relationship with Rodriguez, who is referred to with the code name Cacique: "This also has put my relationship w Cacique at risk @ the tune of 12K per month. And I have 4 years remaining on that deal."

 

There is no indication whether Cabrera and Bosch settled the financial dispute, but the notations in Bosch's notebook dry up after the dispute, at least according to documents released by the New Times.

 

Records describe Biogenesis clients according to how drugs were distributed to them: "office," "pickup" or "delivery." Rodriguez is listed as "Baseball/Delivery," as well as the notation "cash." The list of notations in nearly every case dovetails with the exact playing schedules and noted statistics of the players in question. Those notations include:

 

• A drug regimen that appears to have been written in 2011, the year of the 19th Annual World Congress on Anti-Aging and Aesthetic Medicine, the title of which appears as the letterhead of the paper used to outline the plan for "Cacique," Rodriguez's clinic code name. The regimen calls for taking growth hormone releasing hormone and growth hormone releasing peptides in .7 international units "AM/Noon/PM" three times per week.

 

• A 2012 reference to Rodriguez that lists him as "paid through April 30." It continues, "I need to see him between April 13-19. Deliver troches and pink cream . . . and May meds. He has three weeks of Sub-Q (as of April.)" The dates dovetail with the exact dates of a Yankees homestand. Troches are lozenges used to deliver testosterone, the pink cream is believed to be a transdermal delivery system of testosterone and Sub-Q is shorthand for subcutaneous,

 

• A notation for May 7-8, 2012 that refers to "NYC/ARod." The Yankees had an off day at home May 7 and played a home game May 8.

 

• A reference in a 2012 notebook of Rodriguez's batting average, home runs and RBI: .277, 7, 19 -- his exact statistics of May 29 when the Yankees were in Anaheim.

 

• The names of "Alex Rod" and "Yuri Sucart," his cousin, under May 21, 2010, a date the Yankees were in New York as the visiting team against the Mets.

 

• An April 4, 2012 delivery plan ("in person or by mail") for Yasmani Grandal, a catcher for the Triple-A Tucson Padres at the time. "Payment will be made by his girlfriend," it notes, including $500 for expenses.

 

• A busy week in 2012 that refers to Texas outfielder Nelson Cruz in Baltimore May 7 (where the Rangers played the Orioles), Rodriguez in New York May 8 and Cabrera in Phoenix May 10 (where the Giants played the Diamondbacks). Cruz was hitting .216 entering May 7. He hit .500 over the next week.

 

• A note about Cruz on May 29, 2012 with his exact triple crown statistics at the time: .276, 7, 34.

 

• A holiday discount with a Dec. 14, 2011 notation of drugs associated with University of Miami trainer Jimmy Goins. "Gift certificate. $75 off X-mas," it notes, as well as a credit of "$100 for referral."

 

• A discrepancy in dates assigned to a notebook labeled 2009. The notations refer to Feb. 7, 14 and 28 as falling on Mondays -- which was true in 2011, not 2009.

 

The notes in the 2009 book list "Alex Rod" and Yuri Sucart under "Mon./Feb. 14." It was on Feb. 5, 2009 that Selena Roberts of Sports Illustrated confronted Rodriguez while training in Miami about information that he flunked his 2003 survey test for the steroid Primobolan. The story, written by Roberts and David Epstein, was posted Feb. 7, 2009, a Saturday -- making it more likely the "Mon./Feb. 14" notation refers to 2011.

 

Strouse said it's possible an entry from one year became interspersed with another year, as he said the New Times found in the case of another Bosch client.

 

The notebooks give MLB the kind of sunlight onto the secretive drug culture of athletes that the United States Anti-Doping Agency failed to get from disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong. They detail how ballplayers could take HGH and IGF-1 with impunity because baseball has not tested in-season for those banned substances, a loophole that closes this year. Moreover, ballplayers could risk using testosterone in low doses and in the form of fast-acting creams and troches in hopes of not triggering a positive urine sample.

 

"They essentially were playing the lottery when it came to using testosterone," said one MLB official. "Some got caught; some didn't." Cabrera, Grandal and Colon all failed drug tests last season for elevated levels of testosterone.

 

For instance, the notes for Grandal show the use of HGH and IGF "six days on, one day off, AM and PM" and the use of testosterone troches of 15 percent and, before games, 20 percent.

 

**

 

Here are identifiable substances connected to Alex Rodriguez according to documents released by the Miami New Times, which the publication attributes as the handwritten logs of Florida wellness clinician Tony Bosch. It does not include some substances that could not be identified because of abbreviations or legibility.

 

Testosterone: Banned substance applied by cream at 10% strength

 

L-Glutathione: Antioxidant used for cell repair

 

Troches: 19% testosterone-laced lozenge used prior to workout

 

Pink cream: Trans-dermal delivery of testosterone

 

HGH: Injectable growth hormone, a banned substance

 

CJC: Injectable growth hormone releasing hormone

 

GHRP: Injectable growth hormone releasing peptide

 

IGF-1: Banned substance; stimulates insulin and muscle growth

 

Zinc: Essential mineral used as dietary supplement

 

Amino acids: Supplement aids in recovery and building of muscle tissue

 

Vitamin D: Immune system booster

 

Omega-3, -6, -9: Essential fatty acids

 

5-HTP: Boosts serotonin production in brain

 

DHEA: Testosterone precursor

 

Resveratrol: Plant-based supplement marketed as anti-aging agent

 

Melatonin: Hormone that helps regulate sleep and wake cycles

 

Glucosamine: Supplement used for joint and cartilage health

 

Alpha lipoic acid: Antioxidant that helps turn glucose into energy

 

Ibuprofen: Anti-inflammatory drug to treats minor aches and pains

[Behindenemylines]

Even with A-Rod down for at least a half a season it looks like he will be a distraction for the $pankees. You have to love A-Rod for that.

[bkrull18]

Arod is old and most likely been juicing his whole career. His body is damaged from the use to the point where the effects are working as well or at all. This is all guess work on my behalf. Just a theory to Jacko's statement of why he still sucks.

 

 

Man-Ram took steroids to. everyone does these days. who cares