2013 Mock Draft

[jacksonianmarch]

And FYI, Jordan Sheffield, who has been mocked anywhere from top 10 to the end of the first round has TJS this week and is pretty likely to be headed to Vanderbilt

[Standing Room]

Moran is the only player I've seen going to the Red Sox in more than one recent mock draft. Assuming Appel, Gray and Bryant are off the board, the only players left that really excite me are Frasier, Meadows and Shipley. Not a whole lot of quality talent this year.

[jacksonianmarch]

The mocks I am seeing lately have Moran going before the sox pick. Based on all the mocks, the consensus has Appel, Gray, Bryant, Frazier, Moran and Meadows going in that order. And for those junkies who love these mocks, here is a link to all of them...

 

http://dcprosportsreport.com/MLBMocks.htm

[jacksonianmarch]

BTW, I LOVE the recent mock by Jonathan Mayo for the Yankees. He has the Yankees getting HS C Jon Denney, HS LHP Rob Kaminsky and JuCo SS Tim Anderson with their 3 picks in the first round. Denney is a big bat whose defensive questions have seen him slide into the late 1st. I had seen him as high as #10 in the mocks. Kaminsky is a local HSer with perhaps the best curve in the entire draft. Add that to his low 90s heat and you have to wonder if he lasts as long as he is anticipated to last. And Anderson is a SS I have seen in the late 1st round as well who is markedly athletic and has a good bat, but a raw glove

[Standing Room]

That's pretty cool, thanks for the link. If indeed the draft does go Appel, Gray, Bryant, Frazier, Moran and Meadows the Sox would still do pretty well to pick up Shipley.

 

It would be really surprising if Denney falls to the Yankees, does he have signability issues? Kamiskey seems like a bit of a gamble that high, I've seen him going 15-20 spots later. Anderson seems about right. Austin Wilson would also be an interesting guy in the Yankees range. He's got some minor health issues but the main reason he'll fall in the draft is because he plays for Stanford.

[jacksonianmarch]

I've seen Shipley all over the first round, as far down as the Yankee selection in one mock. I don't think he lasts past the top 10, though

[Standing Room]

Callis had this to say on the Red Sox pick.

 

"Boston has selected this high just once since 1967, getting Trot Nixon with the No. 7 choice in 1993. The Red Sox are looking to maximize their opportunity and will take a high-ceiling talent such as Frazier, Manaea or Stewart. They’re also interested in sweet-swinging North Carolina third baseman Colin Moran."

 

Both Callis and Jonathan Mayo have the Sox taking Frazier with their pick.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130515&content_id=47666630&vkey=news_hou&c_id=hou

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/jim-callis-mock-draft-1-0/

 

Shipley would be more of a consolation prize. But Keith Law, Callis and Mayo had Shipley going between 5th and 8th overall.

[Palodios]

They’re also interested in sweet-swinging North Carolina third baseman Colin Moran."

 

Did anyone else see "Sweet singing Caroline" ?

[Standing Room]

Sean Manaea's injured, that should make the decision a little easier for the Sox. He was one of their more likely candidates but his stock had been falling prior to the shoulder tightness.

 

https://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/336855502363430912

 

Frazier, Moran and Shipley seem like the three players most likely to be drafted by the Red Sox. That is, of course, assuming that a higher regarded prospect doesn't fall to 7th.

[jacksonianmarch]

It isn't looking like Moran or Frazier are falling to you. Manaea was the wild card who was slotting into the top 6 or out of the top 10. Now that he is going to move back in the draft, I highly doubt those talents fall to you

[Standing Room]

Huh? Tons of experts are predicting the Red Sox will select Moran or Frazier. Moran seems the most likely to me, he's ranked right around seven on most reputable mock drafts.

[Standing Room]

I haven't seen Manaea in the top 10 in many mocks since his hip injury/control issues earlier in the year. I doubt this affects the talent that will be available to the Red Sox.

[jacksonianmarch]

http://dcprosportsreport.com/MLBMocks.htm

[jacksonianmarch]

The most recent ones have the sox taking Frazier, Manaea, or Kohl Stewart

[jacksonianmarch]

And the same ones have the Yankees selecting...

 

Kaminsky, Chris Anderson, and Billy McKinney or

Bickford, Blair, and Boldt or

Biggio, Anderson, and Ziomek

[jacksonianmarch]

BA thinks Manaea is now going to fall far enough for the Yankees to get him in the supp round

[Standing Room]

Seems reasonable. He's damaged goods now.

[jacksonianmarch]

That's the only way you get elite polished talent when picking at the back end of the draft every yr

[Standing Room]

Just like Joba Chamberlain.

[User Name]

In all fairness, Chamberlain would probably be a superstar reliever about now had they not jerked him around between starting and relieving once he came up. Just like Daniel Bard.

[jacksonianmarch]

Their "Joba rules" ruined him for life. Thing is, he was a lights out starter too, even in his first taste of starting in the bigs. But f***ing around with him took its toll on the shoulder and he was never the same

[User Name]

I doubt he would have been a very good starter at the ML level because of his lack of stamina.

[jacksonianmarch]

Before he got hurt in Texas, he was lights out as a starter.

 

Once he got up to the appropriate pitch count, he started 9 games at a 100 pitch count...

 

54IP 46H 12ER 59K 18BB 2.00ERA 9.8K/9IP 1.18WHIP

 

After that, he pitching in Texas and "inflamed" his shoulder and was never the same. During that run, he was lights out dominant and the best pitcher on the staff. Over time, had his shoulder actually been ready for the workload, I have no doubt he'd at least been on par with Brandon Morrow or Max Scherzer, guys with lights out fastballs and dominant stuff capable of striking out 10 a night. When he returned from that shoulder injury, he looked afraid to let it loose and that never shook. They f***ed him up completely

[Standing Room]

I agree. If not for Joba's shoulder, elbow, tricep, oblique and ankle, he could have been a very good pitcher.

[jacksonianmarch]

I agree. If not for Joba's shoulder, elbow, tricep, oblique and ankle, he could have been a very good pitcher.

 

The shoulder was the start of it all. Tommy John is recoverable. The ankle isn't the end of a career. But for a pitcher, a shredded shoulder is a real career changer. I am certain there is damage there, even though the MRI doesn't show it. The guy used to hit 100 with regularity. Now, he barely hits 95

[Standing Room]

The shoulder injury he got with the Yankees was why he fell to the Yankees in the draft because of injury issues?

[jacksonianmarch]

The shoulder injury he got with the Yankees was why he fell to the Yankees in the draft because of injury issues?

 

No, his shoulder wasn't the question. It was the conditioning and a tricep injury late in his college season.

[Standing Room]

Right, his issues began long before the shoulder injury and he's had multiple injuries since that were likely in no way related.

[jacksonianmarch]

No doubt he is injury prone. But he shook off the tricep issue completely. Remember, injuries get amplified big time come the MLB draft. They'll pass on an elite talent if they have even a non-career threatening injury, especially a pitcher. He was dominant through the entirety of the pro levels until that fateful day in Texas. Since then, he hasn't been even close to the same

[jacksonianmarch]

Back to the mocks...

 

Clint Frazier is the hot name for the Red Sox. There were 5 new mocks over the last 3 days, and 4 of them have Frazier going to the sox. One had Frazier go #6 and the sox getting Stanek. The sox were linked to so many guys over the past few months, but guys who were expected to fall to them previously, aren't expected to fall anymore. Bryant and Moran are going before the sox pick and Manaea is going to be a late 1st round wild card. I think Frazier is going to be the pick, and he's a hell of a player