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[Station 13]

You mean that one time he went 250?

 

Just saying, he's been to 200, 200, 240, 225, 250, 240. Outside of his first fullseason, he's been averaging 225 a season.

 

If Clay can even throw 200 I'd be surprised.

[noreaster]

Tell that to the A's, O's and Nats...

 

do we have the patience to wait 3-4 years for the draft choices to hopefully be ready? look how llong those teams you mentioned have been diddling around with draft choices since they won the world series? forever it seems. that money trade might usher in something unacceptable for the fans. if the team in ny is really going to keep it at 189 million, maybe the sox are thinking different too. not like the mets i hope.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

What are Don and Jerry wheezing about right now? Did I miss something?

[jung]

The Yankees have clearly started to narrow their focus and up their intensity to close to a post season level. While if Red Sox pitchers were pitching at a post season level of intensity, it would more closely match the intensity and focus of the Spankee hitters, I would contend that this bunch of pitchers along with last years staff would have been pounded silly in the post season by hitters exhibiting that much focus and intensity.

 

The whole "anything can happen" argument for getting to the post season is predicated on your team being hot going into the post season not stumbling and bumbling their way in.

[Station 13]

It's amazing they may be endangered of falling to 30th in drawing walks. If that f***ing happens, clean the f***ing team of these gutless *******s.

[Station 13]

do we have the patience to wait 3-4 years for the draft choices to hopefully be ready? look how llong those teams you mentioned have been diddling around with draft choices since they won the world series? forever it seems. that money trade might usher in something unacceptable for the fans. if the team in ny is really going to keep it at 189 million' date=' maybe the sox are thinking different too. not like the mets i hope.[/quote']

 

They have Middlebroks, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Ortiz as the 1-4 hitter. There's 5 holes to fill in the lineup.

 

Pitching has several FAs that worth a look, Kyle Loshe, Kuroda, Marcum, Haren, Sanchez. No excuses for Cook to pitch here next season.

[Bellhorn04]

It would only be fitting if Cody Ross tweaks a hammy or something before tomorrow night's game. Then we can field what will be officially the worst lineup in baseball history.

[Station 13]

Nice AB Lavarnway, turd.

[jung]

Truth is, the Sox have allowed this team to fall into major disrepairsville, not minor tweaksville as some would hope. This going to take some work to fix at least if "fix" means a real shot at post season success. Please I don't want to hear anymore about how they could be a s*** team tin the regular season and can make a meaningful run by just getting hot in the nick of time. The team this year did not even show signs of getting luke warm let alone hot. As for last year's team, once it started falling apart it never found the bottom. The season ended before they ever found the bottom. If anything the team we had last year found the bottom finally sometime this year. Make no mistake, this year was an extension of the last year.

[Station 13]

Iggy and Lavarnway are not earning their stripes. The suggestion from Carfardo to start Iggy since the start of the season is asinine.

[jung]

Another weak as can be grounder from Iggy. What is killing me is that we are not looking for the sun, the moon and the stars from Lavs and Iggy. We are looking for a glimmer of what Iggy could be at the plate. Just show us you won't be completely overpowered for about 25 at bats out of 30. Show us you can handle a bat and lay down an occasional Sac Bunt. But no, these weak assed grounders are Iggy being overpowered and he is overpowered by everybody. The only thing relevant about Cafardo's comment is that I just do not know how much more work at AAA will get Iggy How much stronger is he going to get in one more year of AAA?

 

Lavs has had far to long a period of failure at the plate as well. Again we are not looking for that much. Hell when you look at how bad this team was even when it had the lineup it expected to have, we would just about take anything to be a sign of hope.

[mvp 78]

"too"

[Station 13]

Great AB Lavarnway, gutless.

[jung]

OMG...38 home runs by the Spankees against the Red Sox this season. Eck is totally disgusted. Says this is "humiliating".

[Station 13]

OMG...38 home runs by the Spankees against the Red Sox this season. Eck is totally disgusted. Says this is "humiliating".

 

half of which must come from Buchholz and Morales. Buchholz always gives up HR in bunches against the Skanks. Doubront seems the only starter to quiet their bats.

[Bellhorn04]

OMG...38 home runs by the Spankees against the Red Sox this season. Eck is totally disgusted. Says this is "humiliating".

 

No f'ing kidding huh...this season has been one long exercise in humiliation. Personally I've pretty much reached the comfortably numb stage. I managed to survive the last part of the year only with the aid of bitter sarcasm and black humor.

[SoxSport]

The 7 run rule is alive and well.

 

The fundamental problem with this team is the pitching. It's been that way since last September.

 

There is something wrong with the way management handles the pitching. You can see that in the early innings' blowouts. They can't improve unless they get to the bottom of the problem. Too many underachieving pitchers, especially in the early innings.

[Station 13]

Sabathia got through the first on 8 pitches, and strikeouts on 3 pitches a piece. Pedroia should curse them out in the dugout.

[jacksonianmarch]

Too bad I'm at work. Nice to see our full lineup bludgeon their way to first. I look forward to the yankees celebrating in full view of the sox tomorrow

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I need to find a new job, I'm surrounded by way too many Yankees fans.

[The Village Idiot]

Dear Santa,

 

I hope you had a good spriing and summer and that all's well.

 

I've been better. Thanks in advance for understanding. I don't have much time for BS, and who are we kidding, you don't either. You have a lot of work to do between now and Christmas Eve. In short, I thought I'd provide you with the following for reference, because let's face it, the Red Sox don't have much time either.

 

Again, thanks in advance for your understanding, consideration, and generosity.

 

The Village Idiot's Christmas List for the Boston Red Sox

(1) Top/middle of the rotation pitchers -- 2 would be perfect -- who do not s*** the bed nightly.

(2) A manager who can manage personalities and the media and a coaching staff -- which is 99 percent of the battle in big league baseball -- and who doesn't say dumb things to the press just because.

(3) Batters who know how to get on base. Who understand that a walk's as good as a hit and results in runs. Remember those guys? Guys like Bill Mueller and Johnny Damon and, yes, even J.D. Drew.

(4) A closer who can...ready, Santa?...close out games so that they turn into wins.

(5) A manager/coaching staff who doesn't waste outs on bunting, which is, generally, for f***wads.

(6) Guys who play with heart. Pitchers, fielders, vets, rookies, all of them. You gotta have heart.

(7) A FO staffed with folks who (a) have the balls to stick with the very organizational philosophy that once worked for said organization, and ( do not get overly cute, reactionary or full of themselves.

 

What's that? You say you can only deliver on 5 of these things? If it must come to that, I'll forego the bunting thing and the closer thing. Because the other stuff in the balance of my list could make up for a few bunts here and there and even a shaky closer here and there.

 

Give my best to the Mrs. and to Rudolph et al.

 

Sincerely,

TVI

[a700hitter]

Too bad I'm at work. Nice to see our full lineup bludgeon their way to first. I look forward to the yankees celebrating in full view of the sox tomorrow

It will be a crowning moment for a completely s*** season. Thank you john henry and your band of incompetent fools for putting together the worst Red Sox team that I have seen in my life.

 

It seems fitting that baseball will have its first triple crown winner since Yaz won it breathing life into a dead franchise and setting it off on 45 years of mainly winning competitive baseball, until now. Welcome to early 1960's Red Sox baseball.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Dear Santa,

 

I hope you had a good spriing and summer and that all's well.

 

I've been better. Thanks in advance for understanding. I don't have much time for BS, and who are we kidding, you don't either. You have a lot of work to do between now and Christmas Eve. In short, I thought I'd provide you with the following for reference, because let's face it, the Red Sox don't have much time either.

 

Again, thanks in advance for your understanding, consideration, and generosity.

 

The Village Idiot's Christmas List for the Boston Red Sox

(1) Top/middle of the rotation pitchers -- 2 would be perfect -- who do not s*** the bed nightly.

(2) A manager who can manage personalities and the media and a coaching staff -- which is 99 percent of the battle in big league baseball -- and who doesn't say dumb things to the press just because.

(3) Batters who know how to get on base. Who understand that a walk's as good as a hit and results in runs. Remember those guys? Guys like Bill Mueller and Johnny Damon and, yes, even J.D. Drew.

(4) A closer who can...ready, Santa?...close out games so that they turn into wins.

(5) A manager/coaching staff who doesn't waste outs on bunting, which is, generally, for f***wads.

(6) Guys who play with heart. Pitchers, fielders, vets, rookies, all of them. You gotta have heart.

(7) A FO staffed with folks who (a) have the balls to stick with the very organizational philosophy that once worked for said organization, and ( do not get overly cute, reactionary or full of themselves.

 

What's that? You say you can only deliver on 5 of these things? If it must come to that, I'll forego the bunting thing and the closer thing. Because the other stuff in the balance of my list could make up for a few bunts here and there and even a shaky closer here and there.

 

Give my best to the Mrs. and to Rudolph et al.

 

Sincerely,

TVI

 

You're asking for too much. Santa, I'll take a season that we don't embarrass ourselves and a playoff appearance.

 

I haven't been naughty this year either if you can throw in a disastrous Yankees season that'd be nice.

[jacksonianmarch]

do we have the patience to wait 3-4 years for the draft choices to hopefully be ready? look how llong those teams you mentioned have been diddling around with draft choices since they won the world series? forever it seems. that money trade might usher in something unacceptable for the fans. if the team in ny is really going to keep it at 189 million' date=' maybe the sox are thinking different too. not like the mets i hope.[/quote']

 

The A's, O's and Nats made signature moves in the offseason that solidified their teams.

 

The Orioles made some under the radar moves. Dealing for Hammel was a huge move for them, as for nearly 2/3 of the season, he was their ace. The Erik Bedard trade from long ago came to serious fruition now that Tillman is playing well and Adam Jones is an MVP candidate (far down the list). They also signed Wei Yi Chen in the offseason. Their trade last season of Uehara for Hunter and Davis turned into big money for the O's and signing McLouth off the scrap heap this season was a huge boon once Markakis went down. Then, bringing up one of their top 10 draftees (Machado) made them very dangerous all over.

 

The A's dealt from a position of strength (bullpen) to get a corner OFer who has hit 32HRs. They also went out and spent big money on Cespedes, who has been a huge hit. Those two guys gave them a middle of the order. Add in a resurgent Brandon Moss and Carter and they actually have a young core of the lineup that can slug the ball out of the park. Their deal of Cahill to the DBacks got them a rookie ace and some of their other rooks (namely Milone) had good yrs in the coliseum. The A's also moved Gio Gonzalez in the offseason and those pieces are starting to pay dividends as well

 

The Nats made a big trade for Gio Gonzalez and then signed Edwin Jackson. That solidified their rotation. Bringing up Harper and just getting healthy made their lineup a lot better too.

 

All of these teams made signature trades that shaped their teams and signed someone to their team who made a big impact. These three arent just teams who built completely from within, they made moves and spent some money and it paid off

[noreaster]

The A's, O's and Nats made signature moves in the offseason that solidified their teams.

 

The Orioles made some under the radar moves. Dealing for Hammel was a huge move for them, as for nearly 2/3 of the season, he was their ace. The Erik Bedard trade from long ago came to serious fruition now that Tillman is playing well and Adam Jones is an MVP candidate (far down the list). They also signed Wei Yi Chen in the offseason. Their trade last season of Uehara for Hunter and Davis turned into big money for the O's and signing McLouth off the scrap heap this season was a huge boon once Markakis went down. Then, bringing up one of their top 10 draftees (Machado) made them very dangerous all over.

 

The A's dealt from a position of strength (bullpen) to get a corner OFer who has hit 32HRs. They also went out and spent big money on Cespedes, who has been a huge hit. Those two guys gave them a middle of the order. Add in a resurgent Brandon Moss and Carter and they actually have a young core of the lineup that can slug the ball out of the park. Their deal of Cahill to the DBacks got them a rookie ace and some of their other rooks (namely Milone) had good yrs in the coliseum. The A's also moved Gio Gonzalez in the offseason and those pieces are starting to pay dividends as well

 

The Nats made a big trade for Gio Gonzalez and then signed Edwin Jackson. That solidified their rotation. Bringing up Harper and just getting healthy made their lineup a lot better too.

 

All of these teams made signature trades that shaped their teams and signed someone to their team who made a big impact. These three arent just teams who built completely from within, they made moves and spent some money and it paid off

 

baltimore traded bedard for draft choices. oakland traded gio for draft choices. these teams and others have been doing this for awhile. now it is working out; for once. washington has been active trading and buying, which sets them apart from the other two, but the nationals are proof that given every opportunity to draft there way to respectability, they had to do free agency and trade to put them over. they stole gio for nothing much, yet the A's still have pitching. well, no one will mistake these teams for the sox or yankees when it comes to building a winner. fans here are not going to be patient with their money, if the team tries to build predominently from the farm, as these other teams we have discussed have been doing.

[jung]

Somebody must have lit a fire under the Sox tonight. Up 2-0 after their1st bats of the night in this second game. Now to see what Mr Lester has tonight.

[jung]

How the hell does Jeter tag and get to 2nd on a fly ball to RF. Ross really should not play RF next year presuming they resign him.

 

DP started by Iggy ends it in the 1st.