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You're conveniently forgetting the work he did with Lester and Papelbon. To say nothing og Buchholz, who's solid now but needed a lot of help to get there.
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But seriously, what about Lou Piniella. We all know he wouldn't take crap from anyone.

 

In addition to getting respect from the players as well. Yeah we could use him.

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BV gets another year, but on a short leash. Based on what is taking place with the trades it looks like they are going to give him a real chance. Whether you like him or not, with all of the injuries and turmoil he was able to keep them a float until August. Didn't have the set lineup one game all season, Lester and Beckett terrible most of the season, and he had to come up with a bullpen after losing his closer in the spring.
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BV gets another year, but on a short leash. Based on what is taking place with the trades it looks like they are going to give him a real chance. Whether you like him or not, with all of the injuries and turmoil he was able to keep them a float until August. Didn't have the set lineup one game all season, Lester and Beckett terrible most of the season, and he had to come up with a bullpen after losing his closer in the spring.
After pulling off this trade, he is clearly putting his stamp on this team. If the FO is letting him dismantle the team, they will let him rebuild it.
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Screw Mike Maddux bring in his brother he only won about another 270 games or something.. Not but really I wouldn't mind Mike Maddux or John Farrell. You know damn well he doesn't want to be in Canada anymore
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The new "thin" Rex Ryan? I know it's the wrong sport but I love looking at that guy, he's like a big puffy train wreck.

 

They'd consider it if he promised foot massages. Big guy with a foot fetish go figure

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Hope it's not Valentine. He has outlived his usefulness. They now need a manager experienced with developing younger players. Not what they needed the beginning of this year. The needs have changed.
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But seriously, what about Lou Piniella. We all know he wouldn't take crap from anyone.

 

Why Piniella? Because he wouldn't take any crap? Then hire Mike Tyson if that is what you want. Piniella has shown a lack of passion for baseball in his last seven years in the game. He didn't even finish out his last year with the Cubs. He went home rather than see the season out. His passion had left him.

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Torey Lovullo is a possibility. He was in the system before moving to Toronto and seems to be highly thought of. He has been interviewed for several managerial positions.
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I would like to see Mike Lowell given a shot at it, like the White Sox did with Ventura. Or maybe Andy VanSlyke. Worked under Leyland and f***ing hates Barry Bonds. That is 2 big resume points. Or if you want a veteran how about Ken Macha.
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After pulling off this trade, he is clearly putting his stamp on this team. If the FO is letting him dismantle the team, they will let him rebuild it.

 

Are you suggesting Valentine was the architect of the trade?

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I hope not Valentine. He was set up to fail this year--though he did help. My impression is he had no authority at all except maybe to piss. He looks pretty down at this point, and won't want to come back anyways.

 

They need somebody who is good with young players.

 

Valentine said today in his press conference he's signed for next year, so he assumes he'll be back. But with the change in direction, I don't know if he's the right guy for the job.

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I think Valentine will be the coach for another year. I think the front office will think they didn't give him a fair chance, with all these pre-madonna's and the injuries were just killer this year as well. But, I see him managing out his contract and Farrell will be here in 2014.

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see Jason Varitek's name thrown around..

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I think Valentine will be the coach for another year. I think the front office will think they didn't give him a fair chance, with all these pre-madonna's and the injuries were just killer this year as well. But, I see him managing out his contract and Farrell will be here in 2014.

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see Jason Varitek's name thrown around..

 

I'd like to see Tek get a coaching position in the organization- probably in the minor leagues. He's probably too close to many of the players still on the ML roster to be an effective manager now. After a few more years pass and he gains some coaching and managerial experience in the minors, he could eventually get the nod as manager or pitching coach for the major league team.

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I think Valentine will be the coach for another year. I think the front office will think they didn't give him a fair chance, with all these pre-madonna's and the injuries were just killer this year as well. But, I see him managing out his contract and Farrell will be here in 2014.

 

Francona had the same prima donnas and also some injuries, and no one in the front office felt sorry for him. I honestly don't see how Valentine can be brought back.

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see Jason Varitek's name thrown around..

 

I would be surprised but happy to see Tek brought in to manage the Sox.

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Francona had the same prima donnas and also some injuries, and no one in the front office felt sorry for him. I honestly don't see how Valentine can be brought back.

 

 

 

I would be surprised but happy to see Tek brought in to manage the Sox.

 

Like one of the users said, he might be too close to some of the current players on the roster. But Schilling was on SC the other day and said Tek would be a great fit in Boston. Said Tek gets so much respect in that clubhouse.

 

Would love to see Schilling here as a pitching coach.

 

Tek and Schilling still live in New England, Tek in Acushnet (nearby for me) actually saw him at a Stop and Shop and Schilling I believe in Milton, I've seen him around the softball fields in Somerset.

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Like one of the users said, he might be too close to some of the current players on the roster. But Schilling was on SC the other day and said Tek would be a great fit in Boston. Said Tek gets so much respect in that clubhouse.

 

Would love to see Schilling here as a pitching coach.

 

Tek and Schilling still live in New England, Tek in Acushnet (nearby for me) actually saw him at a Stop and Shop and Schilling I believe in Milton, I've seen him around the softball fields in Somerset.

 

I would be happy with Tek. I am not so sure about Schilling.

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I honestly don't see how Valentine can be brought back.

Why not? What are the criticisms that fall on him. So much of this year falls on the back of Theo, Tito and the bad clubhouse culture the grew under him, the players, and injury. What are your criticisms of V's coaching? All the idiots on WEEI ever whine about are stigmas about Bobby V from a decade ago that he has clearly matured past.

 

 

Would love to see Schilling here as a pitching coach.

 

Uggh. We've made so much ground this year getting rid of bad attitudes. Why bring IN a whining prima dona like Schwill?

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Why not? What are the criticisms that fall on him. So much of this year falls on the back of Theo, Tito and the bad clubhouse culture the grew under him, the players, and injury. What are your criticisms of V's coaching? All the idiots on WEEI ever whine about are stigmas about Bobby V from a decade ago that he has clearly matured past.

 

Bobby Valentine was brought in for one purpose, to manage the Red Sox into contention. He did not do it. The Red Sox have played very poorly. As the saying goes, you can't fire twenty-five players, but you can fire the manager.

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If you look at everything that has happened the last few weeks it looks like they will bring back BV for year two. If you weren't going to do that why not replace him now and allow the new guy to look at some of the players now with 2013 in mind. If you are using the rest of 2012 as a try out for 2013 for some of the kids wouldn't it make sence that your planned 2013 manager be doing the observing. Stewart pitching tonight and probably a lot of young players playing the rest of 2012.
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Bobby Valentine was brought in for one purpose, to manage the Red Sox into contention. He did not do it. The Red Sox have played very poorly. As the saying goes, you can't fire twenty-five players, but you can fire the manager.

 

I disagree completely. He was brought in to change the culture. With the recent moves and the fact that Cherington has finally given support to Valentine, I think he is starting to show that he runs this ship. The sox would be right to keep V for another season. He gets a lot out of the young bucks, and you'll be seeing a lot of them over the next 13 months or so

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I disagree completely. He was brought in to change the culture. With the recent moves and the fact that Cherington has finally given support to Valentine, I think he is starting to show that he runs this ship. The sox would be right to keep V for another season. He gets a lot out of the young bucks, and you'll be seeing a lot of them over the next 13 months or so

 

I agree with you. I thought this was what it was all about going foward anyway, with the younger players starting to take over more. Its like a slow process of the changing of the guard so to speak.

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I disagree completely. He was brought in to change the culture. With the recent moves and the fact that Cherington has finally given support to Valentine, I think he is starting to show that he runs this ship.

 

If the Sox just wanted someone to change the clubhouse culture, they should have hired Dr. Phil. Valentine was hired to make the third highest payrolled team a winning team. Changing the clubhouse culture would have to be just one of his focuses. There is also the business of building a winning culture.

 

A year ago, with virtually the same players, The Red Sox were 30 games over .500. Valentine may have changed the culture...but not necessarily for the better.

 

The sox would be right to keep V for another season. He gets a lot out of the young bucks, and you'll be seeing a lot of them over the next 13 months or so

 

Outside of the trade with the Dodgers (and that was more about the Dodgers' stupidity), the Red Sox have done little right. If they bring back Valentine, it will just be another failure to understand how to build a winning team.

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