Redsox place four players on waivers

[lospunchados]

Maybe this is the start to what most fans are asking for.

 

Aviles,Shoppach,Crawford and Punto were placed on Waivers Friday and all cleared waivers so they can be traded by August 31st. Looks like at least a few people will be moved and let some of the young kids have a shot to see what they can do.

[DocHolliday]

Lots of players are placed on waivers and clear without getting traded.

 

Of this group, Crawford is the lone player that no team will claim or acquire in a trade.

 

Aviles and Shoppach could actually help a contending team. Punto can be the ringleader of the team's celebrative activities if said team is lucky to have them. He serves no other purpose.

[jung]

Aviles and Shop must have been in a second waivers offering. Think Punto and Crawford were announced first and at the same time. I did not even see the Shop, Aviles announcement. Would love to see Aviles go....wouldn't have to worry about him being inserted in the lineup at SS

[Thunder]

Crawford is playing really well, Aviles is having a career year, Shoppach sucks, and Punto is an excuse for a MLB player. With Middlebrooks done, Valencia should be the starter. If they get rid of Aviles, Ciriaco can play short, and Lavarnway can back up Salty. I want them to keep Crawford and Aviles though.

[Elktonnick]

Crawford is playing really well' date=' Aviles is having a career year, Shoppach sucks, and Punto is an excuse for a MLB player. With Middlebrooks done, Valencia should be the starter. If they get rid of Aviles, Ciriaco can play short, and Lavarnway can back up Salty. I want them to keep Crawford and Aviles though.[/quote']

 

Shoppach isn't as bad as Salty who is putrid by comparison

[jung]

Regardless of all the stuff revolving around catcher, I think long term, Salty gives the Sox more flexibility than Shop does. This assumes Lavs as the primary catcher next year. Lavs has to be the primary catcher next year with Salty the backup....Salty should not be the primary catcher for this team. Shop should very likely have caught more games than he has this year if your two catchers are Shop and Salty. If your two catchers are Lavs and Salty next year then Lavs should get the bulk of the games as the primary. If Lavs and Shop then Lavs should still get the bulk of the games. Yes Shop is a better catcher than Salty but I suspect that the gap between the two is not as wide as we would like to think. I know about ERA gap between pitchers to Salty and pitchers to Shop and there is no denying that there is a trend here starting with Salty/Tek and now extending through Salty/Shop. But as long as Lavs is the primary then you have a right/left catcher combo since Salty appears to bat better from the left than he does from the right anyway. Frankly, Shop does not provide targets much better than Salty does. Clearly there are other things Shop is doing better than Salty with regard to handling pitchers. Since Salty has improved his throwing I think he has narrowed the gap to Shop there. Salty has not really improved as a receiver. Shop has a marginal edge there. Shop is certainly better at taking throws from the outfield in the effort to cut down runners as Salty's glove appears to still have to find the ball with no help from Salty as in more luck than planning.

 

I have wanted the Sox to keep Aviles but only as their utility infielder, getting rid of Punto. Based on how the Sox have handled SS I am no longer confident that the Sox will ever get it and I suspect they will continue to insert Aviles as the everyday SS if he is on this team. They are apparently to stupid to figure this out. If I could regain confidence that the Sox would use Aviles as the utility infielder next year and even insert him in the OF in a pinch I would love for the Sox to keep him. Sox FO has proven so inept that I just don't think they will get it right. If they can't get it right then I would prefer Aviles be gone. I would prefer Ceriaco to Aviles and would prefer Iggy to Aviles as well. By next year Iggy should be ready although based on recent comments on Iggy from the FO, they are now setting unreasonable expectations for him bordering on the inane.

 

I suppose there is the possibility that the Sox would bring in a SS waiting for the kid behind Iggy to make it up from AA ball. However the Sox really need to put their efforts into pitching before they devote time to everyday player trades or FA moves. The Sox being the Sox, they will likely screw that up as well.

[a700hitter]

Crawford playing like a star.

[Elktonnick]

Regardless of all the stuff revolving around catcher, I think long term, Salty gives the Sox more flexibility than Shop does. This assumes Lavs as the primary catcher next year. Lavs has to be the primary catcher next year with Salty the backup....Salty should not be the primary catcher for this team. Shop should very likely have caught more games than he has this year if your two catchers are Shop and Salty. If your two catchers are Lavs and Salty next year then Lavs should get the bulk of the games as the primary. If Lavs and Shop then Lavs should still get the bulk of the games. Yes Shop is a better catcher than Salty but I suspect that the gap between the two is not as wide as we would like to think. I know about ERA gap between pitchers to Salty and pitchers to Shop and there is no denying that there is a trend here starting with Salty/Tek and now extending through Salty/Shop. But as long as Lavs is the primary then you have a right/left catcher combo since Salty appears to bat better from the left than he does from the right anyway. Frankly, Shop does not provide targets much better than Salty does. Clearly there are other things Shop is doing better than Salty with regard to handling pitchers. Since Salty has improved his throwing I think he has narrowed the gap to Shop there. Salty has not really improved as a receiver. Shop has a marginal edge there. Shop is certainly better at taking throws from the outfield in the effort to cut down runners as Salty's glove appears to still have to find the ball with no help from Salty as in more luck than planning.

 

I have wanted the Sox to keep Aviles but only as their utility infielder, getting rid of Punto. Based on how the Sox have handled SS I am no longer confident that the Sox will ever get it and I suspect they will continue to insert Aviles as the everyday SS if he is on this team. They are apparently to stupid to figure this out. If I could regain confidence that the Sox would use Aviles as the utility infielder next year and even insert him in the OF in a pinch I would love for the Sox to keep him. Sox FO has proven so inept that I just don't think they will get it right. If they can't get it right then I would prefer Aviles be gone. I would prefer Ceriaco to Aviles and would prefer Iggy to Aviles as well. By next year Iggy should be ready although based on recent comments on Iggy from the FO, they are now setting unreasonable expectations for him bordering on the inane.

 

I suppose there is the possibility that the Sox would bring in a SS waiting for the kid behind Iggy to make it up from AA ball. However the Sox really need to put their efforts into pitching before they devote time to everyday player trades or FA moves. The Sox being the Sox, they will likely screw that up as well.

 

The only advantage Salty has over Shoppach is he is a switch hitter. He strikes out too much. He can't throw worth a crap. He is a lousy receiver. He calls a terrible game.

 

Salty has not become what the baseball ops thought he would be. He is another one of these guys that they had their eye on for a long time because he fit some kind of model. He will never get any better. He more of a liability than Shoppach but because he has hit a few a more home runs he is good trade bait. So I would trade him now. His value to a potential contender will never be higher.

[Thunder]

Crawford playing like a star.

 

He feels no pressure on him this year although there is probably more pressure than last year.

[jung]

No question that Salty is better trade bait. If they can move Salty in a deal this year then do it. I was thinking more about the marginal dif between the two presuming Lavs is the primary catcher next year and both Salty and Shop getting no interest from teams this year. But if there is an opportunity to move Salty this year, by all means do it.

 

If there is an opportunity to move Shop this year do it. I have just lost so much faith in this FO that I am no longer confident what they could do in the near term. Not sure they are capable of pulling the trigger on anything more complicated than the fourth 3rd baseman on some single A team playing someplace...and they would probably get nervous making that move as well.

[InfernoOrangeSS]

Looks like Shoppach to the Mets for a PTBNL.

[cbbosox]

I would trade Punto for a bucket of balls- better yet i would trade him and give up a PTBNL

just for someone to take Punto off our hands.

[NativeBostonian]

Why was Crawford put on waivers? What happens if someone claims him?

[SoxSport]

Somebody might take Punto if they get any IF injuries before the playoffs.

 

Right now, Crawford is playing very well. So you just know the FO will end the season for him.

 

I do not believe there is room on this team for both Crawford and Ellsbury. One of them will go.

[SoxSport]

Shoppach isn't as bad as Salty who is putrid by comparison

 

You'll see Lav getting most of the attention at catcher now. Iggy is bound to get called up. His manager just said Iggy's hitting is "major league ready." He and Ciriaco deserve PT in the infield.

 

If the FO had made some of these moves a month ago, they might still have a shot at the playoffs. But they are very slow to getting around to the right moves. Very slow.