7/19 vs. White Sox

[SoxSport]

Ross is a boss Let's go! Now lets go get Hanley and Heath

 

Watching Hanley hit, I think he'd be a better hitter in Fenway. He's hit a lot of balls right at people lately.

 

Looks like Dempster is going to the Dodgers. Not starting for the Cubs tommorrow. He's better off staying in the NL. Maybe the Sox will get Garza.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Honestly, though. Give this guy 3/30 (I think that's what he wanted). He is absolutely built for Fenway Park.

 

With a full lineup, and playing everyday, he's a 25 HR, 100 RBI guy. And he just seems like a cool, nice dude.

[BornToRun]

Somewhere, right now hawk harrelson is cutting his forearms and crying into a pillow.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Somewhere' date=' right now hawk harrelson is cutting his forearms and crying into a pillow.[/quote']

 

I can't wait until I can watch the ChiSox broadcast.

 

I bet he either goes silent or says "ded gom it!"

[VA Sox Fan]

Somewhere' date=' right now hawk harrelson is cutting his forearms and crying into a pillow.[/quote']

 

Good. Thanks for 67 and all, but he is a homer douchbag!!

[BornToRun]

Honestly, though. Give this guy 3/30 (I think that's what he wanted). He is absolutely built for Fenway Park.

 

With a full lineup, and playing everyday, he's a 25 HR, 100 RBI guy. And he just seems like a cool, nice dude.

 

We definately need to keep him around. He loves it here, he's still relatively young, early 30's, and is absolutely built for Fenway park.

 

I f***ing love this guy.

[Bellhorn04]

Somewhere' date=' right now hawk harrelson is cutting his forearms and crying into a pillow.[/quote']

 

We went 6-2 against Hawk's boys this year.

[BornToRun]

Good. Thanks for 67 and all' date=' but he is a homer douchbag!![/quote']

 

And, as pointed out by the heave the hawk website, he looks like a f***ing muppet.

[Emmz]

Hawk said "This ballgame is over" but in a depressed, monotone voice.

[Bellhorn04]

Honestly, though. Give this guy 3/30 (I think that's what he wanted). He is absolutely built for Fenway Park.

 

With a full lineup, and playing everyday, he's a 25 HR, 100 RBI guy. And he just seems like a cool, nice dude.

 

He's got 16 HR and 50 RBI in only 254 AB.

[jung]

While it is the convention for RH pitchers to try to get the RH hitter looking inside and also keep him from reaching out across the plate when they throw low and outside for the out, I think that is a huge mistake to Ross.

 

We have seen very few teams try to pitch Ross the conventional way because of what happened tonight. You want to miss inside with that pitch to accomplish what you are trying to accomplish as a pitcher. However if you get to much of the plate and especially in that situation where you had to know Ross had narrowed his focus down to FB inside, you risk exactly what happened.

 

I would not try to drive Ross off. I would simply pitch him outside. Ross cannot reach out and jerk that pitch over the fence. In fact he can't do much at all with that pitch. Stupid.

 

You would have thought that having thrown Ross two cookies in the game previous, they would have decided that was not working but in fact, more often than not if a team comes in with an idea about how they are going to pitch to somebody they will rarely change it at least not for that series.

 

That will probably not stop Ventura from telling himself that he should have told his pitcher and pitching coach that in that situation, he did not want them to try to come inside even in an effort to miss inside and drive him off the plate a little.

[VA Sox Fan]

We went 6-2 against Hawk's boys this year.

 

Hawk said "This ballgame is over" but in a depressed' date=' monotone voice.[/quote']

 

:thumbsup:

 

Very nice s***! F you Hawk!

[jung]

I still think Buch will keep this up for the remainder of the year and end it the best/most consistent of the Sox starters.

[User Name]

I thought that was one of the most hilarious things that I have seen in awhile that someone (anyone catch who?) brought the Gatorade cooler out. I love when they tear the jerseys off too, funny stuff.

[redsoxbeatz]

Such a morale booster. Red Sox go on a tear starting now!!!!

[SoxFanForsyth]

I thought that was one of the most hilarious things that I have seen in awhile that someone (anyone catch who?) brought the Gatorade cooler out. I love when they tear the jerseys off too' date=' funny stuff.[/quote']

 

I'm almost certain that was Aceves.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Man. Can you imagine this lineup with Ortiz rather than Ciraico?

 

Ells - Craw - Pedey - Ortiz - Gonzo - Ross - Middlebrooks - Salty/Shoppach - Aviles.

 

Sick.

[jung]

While I still think coming inside to Ross is a terrible idea especially in the situation he was in tonight....having now seen the replay several times, I actually think they have been trying to get in under his hands this whole series. That is a little different effort than coming inside to drive the hitter off the plate giving the pitcher more control over the outer half of the plate.

 

That still does give the pitcher a better chance of getting the hitter out with a pitch on the outer half but it also offers the added benefit of likely coaxing a swing and miss out of the hitter thus leaving him with two strikes against.

 

Still though, even if they were trying to get in under his hands, that pitch was not close to that location and was still right in his wheelhouse as were the pitches that Ross hit out the previous night. Still monster mistake pitches but at least I can rationalize why a RH pitcher might try to get in under Ross's hands.

[a700hitter]

While I still think coming inside to Ross is a terrible idea especially in the situation he was in tonight....having now seen the replay several times, I actually think they have been trying to get in under his hands this whole series. That is a little different effort than coming inside to drive the hitter off the plate giving the pitcher more control over the outer half of the plate.

 

That still does give the pitcher a better chance of getting the hitter out with a pitch on the outer half but it also offers the added benefit of likely coaxing a swing and miss out of the hitter thus leaving him with two strikes against.

 

Still though, even if they were trying to get in under his hands, that pitch was not close to that location and was still right in his wheelhouse as were the pitches that Ross hit out the previous night. Still monster mistake pitches but at least I can rationalize why a RH pitcher might try to get in under Ross's hands.

Guys who come three quarters or side arm from the right side should never throw to the inside corner on RH hitters, because their delivery makes them bail out. The can hit the inside pitch, but are susceptible to the outside pitch. I think I have heard Eck talk about that. He came from the side and always painted the outside corner. When he came inside, it was generally off the plate.

[kapsis21]

Honestly, though. Give this guy 3/30 (I think that's what he wanted). He is absolutely built for Fenway Park.

 

With a full lineup, and playing everyday, he's a 25 HR, 100 RBI guy. And he just seems like a cool, nice dude.

 

i agree to this 100%. he is made for fenway. only thing is pitchers starting to not pitch him inside.. but still worth 3/30

 

Cody Ross awesome dude

[jung]

Amazing what passes for a 3 yr/$10M player these days.

 

I would love for Ross to stay but 3/30 would be an overpay. What else is new. The Sox have got to be the most overpaid, underperforming team in baseball so what is one more.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Amazing what passes for a 3 yr/$10M player these days.

 

I would love for Ross to stay but 3/30 would be an overpay. What else is new. The Sox have got to be the most overpaid, underperforming team in baseball so what is one more.

 

Last yr is last yr...... But with all the injuries in the 1st half.... Idk what else you could/should of expected?

[jung]

They have lost to teams that don't field half the talent that they field injuries and all. That is why they are only three games over 500, not because they have lost to the iron of the league. Their starting pitching has sucked. They don't play like a team. They give the opposition way to many outs. They can't scratch out runs in tight games injuries or no, much like tonights game which turned out to be a typical Sox win in every respect. Unfortunately there are just as many typical Sox losses out there.

[redsoxbeatz]

If Ortiz walks Cody is our DH. but Ortiz needs to be resigned.

[SCM33]

Guys who come three quarters or side arm from the right side should never throw to the inside corner on RH hitters' date=' because their delivery makes them bail out. The can hit the inside pitch, but are susceptible to the outside pitch. I think I have heard Eck talk about that. He came from the side and always painted the outside corner. When he came inside, it was generally off the plate.[/quote']

 

I think you have this confused.

 

A righty who throws sidearm should never go inside to a lefty.

 

A righty who throws sidearm can and should stay inside to a righty.

 

A righty who throws sidearm should NEVER pitch to the Left Side of the plate.

 

A sidearmer loses his effectivess when he goes across the plate, and anything down and in to a lefty is murder.

[BornToRun]

3/30 is a bit much for Cody but I think that 3/18 is reasonable or perhaps something around 2/12 with an option for a 3rd year would be a good offer.

[redsoxbeatz]

3/30 is a bit much for Cody but I think that 3/18 is reasonable or perhaps something around 2/12 with an option for a 3rd year would be a good offer.

 

Whatever keeps him in Boston!

[example1]

I realize I'm hours late (watching on the west coast, on DVR when I get home from work) but THAT is a f***ing win. Hell yeah!

[wyo-sox]

Red Sox win this game in the bottom of the 9th.

 

Props sir!

[a700hitter]

I think you have this confused.

 

A righty who throws sidearm should never go inside to a lefty.

 

A righty who throws sidearm can and should stay inside to a righty.

 

A righty who throws sidearm should NEVER pitch to the Left Side of the plate.

 

A sidearmer loses his effectivess when he goes across the plate, and anything down and in to a lefty is murder.

I could be mistaken, but I am fairly sure that I have heard some analysts say the opposite. I thought that their theory made sense, but your theor makes sense too. It's a good question for Eck if they ever have an "Ask Eck" segment. I did think it was a mistake when the pitcher came inside on Ross on the 1-0 pitch and he did pay when he came in a second time.