Pedroia tears adductor muscle in thumb

[redsoxfan3]

Pedroia takes his cuts

 

Posted by Peter Abraham, Globe Staff June 2, 2012 12:31 PM

 

TORONTO -- Dustin Pedroia just took 25 swings during batting practice on the field.

 

He was asked how he felt.

 

"How did it look?" Pedroia shot back, pleased with all the line drives he hit.

 

Bobby Valentine said they need to see how Pedroia's thumb responds to the session. But the tentative plan is for him to take BP again on Sunday.

 

There seems to be a decent chance Pedroia returns to the lineup on Tuesday.

 

Just heard about this. The tentative plan is to start Pedroia on Tuesday as long as the thumb is okay after his rounds of BP and there are no setbacks. I hope that is true. We get Pedroia back after only a week off and then that means no more Punto starting at 2B. I just hope Pedroia does not injure his thumb worse by the way he plays.

 

Ross may be coming back sometime next week as well. He is making a lot of progress.

[SCM33]

He is still hurt. Its time to just DL him and let him heal.

 

We need him right if we want to make a run for it in the second half.

[mvp 78]

Stop being a hero and go on the DL. You're not helping this team right now, Pedey.

[Dojji]

Actually he probably still is. Even with his diminished offense I'd rather have his glove in the field. Especially considering just how skint we are for middle infielders.

[mvp 78]

Having a hole at the top of the order is awesome.

[Dojji]

Having a defensive hole at a middle infield position is even better.

 

I agree he should be moved out of the top of the order.

[jung]

Isn't the larger issue here whether or not Pedey playing does not allow him to really heal leaving us stuck with this Pedey instead of the Pedey we really need?

[Dojji]

Sure -- but the question you have to ask is whether the diminished Pedroia is better or worse than no Pedroia at all while he would be healing.

 

If we weren't desperate for middle infielders I'd say let him take his rest. Unfortunately, we traded Jed Lowrie and now we're a bit exposed up the middle as a result and I'd r ather have Dot in the lineup as infrequently as possible.

[a700hitter]

The injury will heal as he plays. Drop him in the order for a while, but the team is much better off with a dinged up Pedroia than Punto on HGH. He has a sore thumb, but he can still play and swing the bat -- just not up to his standards. I don't care what his stats are right now. His presence on the field is extremely important to the team. The hits will come.

[example1]

Agreed 700. His defense is valuable in and of itself.

[a700hitter]

Agreed 700. His defense is valuable in and of itself.

If the doctor's think that playing presents a risk of a full tear, by all means sit him, but if they feel it is not a risk, then he should be playing, because he is much better than Punto. Plus, he is a leader.

[FredLynn]

Having a defensive hole at a middle infield position is even better.

 

I agree he should be moved out of the top of the order.

 

Pedroia is the only individual who can play second base defensively in the entire organization; hence the need for him to keep playing hurt and damaging his teams' chances at making the playoffs.

[jung]

If the doctor's think that playing presents a risk of a full tear, by all means sit him, but if they feel it is not a risk, then he should be playing, because he is much better than Punto. Plus, he is a leader

 

I agree with this. I just have not seen anything one way or the other that indicates what we are really dealing with here.

[mvp 78]

Pedroia is the only individual who can play second base defensively in the entire organization; hence the need for him to keep playing hurt and damaging his teams' chances at making the playoffs.

 

Good thing he's hitting worse than Punto right now!

[FredLynn]

Good thing he's hitting worse than Punto right now!

 

Two words: Pedro Ciriaco

[kapsis21]

Two words: Pedro Ciriaco

 

i mentioned that in another thread as well. i agree with Punto being DFA and Ciriaco playing 2nd base.

[FredLynn]

i mentioned that in another thread as well. i agree with Punto being DFA and Ciriaco playing 2nd base.

 

Or move Aviles to 2B and allow Ciriaco to play SS. He was impressive in ST. DL Pedroia before its too late.

[a700hitter]

An injured Pedroia is better than Ciriaco also. That's the thing with super stars like Pedroia. There are usually no acceptable replacements for guys like that Most of the replacements when healthy are not as good as the star is when he is hurt. Yes, his numbers are suffering right now, but f*** the numbers. The Red Sox are a better team when he is on the field. The only numbers that matter are wins. Period.

[Bellhorn04]

An injured Pedroia is better than Ciriaco also. That's the thing with super stars like Pedroia. There are usually no acceptable replacements for guys like that Most of the replacements when healthy are not as good as the star is when he is hurt. Yes' date=' his numbers are suffering right now, but f*** the numbers. The Red Sox are a better team when he is on the field. The only numbers that matter are wins. Period.[/quote']

 

For me the concern is that Pedroia aggravates the injury by playing with it. He did that in 2010.

[a700hitter]

For me the concern is that Pedroia aggravates the injury by playing with it. He did that in 2010.

2010 was a broken foot. The hairline fracture was in a spot where it would be hard to heal without surgery regardless if he played. They let him play because it was not a weight bearing bone. If he could tolerate the pain, he couldn't damage it any worse. It turned out to be too painful to play through. He didn't damage it or aggravate it. It was just too painful to play through. That was a broke bone. This is not and as long as there is not too much discomfort he can play. Everyone treats these guys like they are eggs that need to be perfect. If you are going to play 150+ games a year, you are going to get dinged. This is a ding, not a career ending injury.He'll be putting on a Laser Show within a week. If you DL him, this team will go right in the tank with or without Ciraciao, and it would stay on track until Pedroia came back and got his timing back.

[FredLynn]

An injured Pedroia is better than Ciriaco also. That's the thing with super stars like Pedroia. There are usually no acceptable replacements for guys like that Most of the replacements when healthy are not as good as the star is when he is hurt. Yes' date=' his numbers are suffering right now, but f*** the numbers. The Red Sox are a better team when he is on the field. The only numbers that matter are wins. Period.[/quote']

 

Two issues: first, Pedroia isn't hitting and thats likely due to his injury. This is not good for the team. And second, a muscle that is partially torn could more easily suffer more serious damage than a muscle that is fully healed. Our medical staff might get away with allowing him to play (OOPS! No one tells Pedroia when he is playing. I forgot)...or they might not.

[a700hitter]

Two issues: first' date=' Pedroia isn't hitting and thats likely due to his injury. This is not good for the team. And second, a muscle that is partially torn could more easily suffer more serious damage than a muscle that is fully healed. Our medical staff might get away with allowing him to play (OOPS! No one tells Pedroia when he is playing. I forgot)...or they might not.[/quote']He'd be a bigger threat at the plate with one hand than Punto. We can agree to disagree on this. IMO, the Red Sox are better off with a knicked up Pedroia in the lineup than Punto. He can sit occasionally to help him heal, but 15 days of Petey on the DL with Punto playing would put the team into a spiral.

[FredLynn]

He'd be a bigger threat at the plate with one hand than Punto. We can agree to disagree on this. IMO' date=' the Red Sox are better off with a knicked up Pedroia in the lineup than Punto. He can sit occasionally to help him heal, but 15 days of Petey on the DL with Punto playing would put the team into a spiral.[/quote']

 

I agree about Punto. He stinks. I was referring to bringing up Ciriaco to play either 2B or SS with Aviles taking the other position.

Punto should not be on the roster. He is useless.

[a700hitter]

I agree about Punto. He stinks. I was referring to bringing up Ciriaco to play either 2B or SS with Aviles taking the other position.

Punto should not be on the roster. He is useless.

I still prefer a knicked up Pedroia. If we had Scutaro on the roster or Lowrie, I'd DL him to let him heal, but no one else in the organization. I was impressed by Ciraciao in Spring Training, but he is a career scrub, so I can't see making that move..

[jung]

As stated earlier I agree that in large part the issue is a determination of whether or not Pedey can heal playing like this. If he cannot heal (a different issue than whether he will hurt himself worse) and we are stuck with this Pedey, would we still just want to play him?

 

My issues is not that this Pedey is twice a Punto even now. My issues is that clearly this Pedey cannot give us what we need from him. I am not sure that will fly even with Ells and CC coming back.

 

Pedey has not only produced for this team. Pedey has produced under pressure. CC has not produced under pressure. Agons is not producing. Youk is on the way out of town and not producing. Aviles has not really been under the kind of pressure Pedey has thrived in for years. The kids are doing great but have no experience in high pressure situations. Do we really want to depend on Ortiz to hit a HR every time he comes to the plate?

 

We need Pedey to be Pedey. If he can't heal playing, then that would be the arbiter for me of whether he should be playing or not. The Sox really have to many moving pieces all moving at once in my view. While I still think this will boil down to having enough Starting Pitching I think they need Pedey to be Pedey.

 

And

 

No, I don't think dice gets us what we need in Starting Pitching. dice gets to replace Bard and not much nore than that. A bunch of 4's and 5's are not the answer when your real issues lie in 1,2 and 3 in your rotation. As it is at least 5 has fallen back into the "not sure what we have" category. But that is not unusual for a 5.

[a700hitter]

As stated earlier I agree that in large part the issue is a determination of whether or not Pedey can heal playing like this. If he cannot heal (a different issue than whether he will hurt himself worse) and we are stuck with this Pedey, would we still just want to play him?

 

My issues is not that this Pedey is twice a Punto even now. My issues is that clearly this Pedey cannot give us what we need from him. I am not sure that will fly even with Ells and CC coming back.

 

Pedey has not only produced for this team. Pedey has produced under pressure. CC has not produced under pressure. Agons is not producing. Youk is on the way out of town and not producing. Aviles has not really been under the kind of pressure Pedey has thrived in for years. The kids are doing great but have no experience in high pressure situations. Do we really want to depend on Ortiz to hit a HR every time he comes to the plate?

 

We need Pedey to be Pedey. If he can't heal playing, then that would be the arbiter for me of whether he should be playing or not. The Sox really have to many moving pieces all moving at once in my view. While I still think this will boil down to having enough Starting Pitching I think they need Pedey to be Pedey.

 

And

 

No, I don't think dice gets us what we need in Starting Pitching. dice gets to replace Bard and not much nore than that. A bunch of 4's and 5's are not the answer when your real issues lie in 1,2 and 3 in your rotation. As it is at least 5 has fallen back into the "not sure what we have" category. But that is not unusual for a 5.

The thumb is getting better. He said that it feels the best that it has felt since he hurt it. Playing with it has no doubt slowed up the healing process, but it is healing. This is not life threatening or career threatening. People are way to dramatic about this. Sure he is not performing up to his standards, but that is for now. The team is better off with him out there and he will start producing like Pedroia again as it heals more. This is a ducking ding. It is probably affecting his video gaming more than anything. Do we have to obsess over this like he is made of fine porcelain.

[Bellhorn04]

The thumb is getting better. He said that it feels the best that it has felt since he hurt it. Playing with it has no doubt slowed up the healing process' date=' but it is healing. This is not life threatening or career threatening. People are way to dramatic about this. Sure he is not performing up to his standards, but that is for now. The team is better off with him out there and he will start producing like Pedroia again as it heals more. This is a ducking ding. It is probably affecting his video gaming more than anything. Do we have to obsess over this like he is made of fine porcelain.[/quote']

 

Very persuasive...I am officially on board with this now. Go Dustin.

[a700hitter]

Pedroia with 3 hits and a walk tonight. Maybe the laser Show is back in town.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Anyone ever stop to think he was mired in a small slump and whatever discomfort that he's feeling ( if any? I have no idea what that type of injury might feel like ) just added to slump he went into? I know it's only one gm, by petey looked fine tonight... I apologize in advance if/when he goes 0-4 tomm

[jung]

He may have healed after all. I would like to see how he handles hitting a good fastball. He creamed a couple of those off speed pitches on Saturday. If he pounds a fastball on Sunday that would go a long to proving the thumb is fine again.

 

Boy would that be terrific.