Updates on ex-Sox players etc.

[Palodios]

Oh yes' date=' every Cardinal drafted pitcher is Bob Gibson. I'm not complaining about him, just correctly characterizing him as a bush leaguer. He's 27 and hasn't spent an entire season at the big league level. That's a bush leaguer.[/quote']

 

Some players take a while to get to the majors. Cliff Lee was 26, and didn't turn into the current Cliff Lee until 30. Until I see Mortensen get hammered, I see no reason to doubt him yet.

[a700hitter]

Some players take a while to get to the majors. Cliff Lee was 26' date=' and didn't turn into the current Cliff Lee until 30. Until I see Mortensen get hammered, I see no reason to doubt him yet.[/quote'] I'll trade you Mortensen for Lee in Fantasy. Here's how the Scutaro trade went down.

 

Cherries: You can have Scutaro if you take the whole $6 million salary and throw in whoever you want.

 

Colorado GM: What do you want a hitter or pitcher?

 

Cherries: Make it a pitcher-- a guy with some options.

 

Colorado GM: How about Mortensen?

 

Cherries: Okay. Does he have both arms and legs

 

Colrado GM: Yeah, I am pretty sure that he does.

 

Mortensen for Scutaro wasn't the trade. He was the throw in. The trade was Scutaro for $6 million.

[a700hitter]

Reddick hit his 23rd Home Run tonight.

[SCM33]

Reddick hit his 23rd Home Run tonight.

 

Still sucks.

[a700hitter]

Still sucks.

Clinging to a position that is clearly wrong erodes your credibility. This guy will finish the season with more than 30 bombs playing in a ballpark that is tough to hit HRs, plus he has a gun for an arm. His OPS is higher than our $22 million slugger. But yes he sucks, because our FO has no patience with young players.

[kapsis21]

Clinging to a position that is clearly wrong erodes your credibility. This guy will finish the season with more than 30 bombs playing in a ballpark that is tough to hit HRs' date=' plus he has a gun for an arm. His OPS is higher than our $22 million slugger. But yes he sucks, because our FO has no patience with young players.[/quote']

 

crud that one hurt..

[Bellhorn04]

Just looked at the log of Reddick's 2012 home runs on HR Tracker. Not one of them has been a cheap shot. The shortest one was 356 feet. 11 of them were over 400 feet. Pretty impressive.

[jung]

Oakland is a big park and I think it has deeper dimensions in RF than the Sox RF.

 

I know that Reddick was the asking price for Bailey but hard to not look at this as just another bad move by the Sox FO.

 

The only good I see coming out of this season is that a number of questions should have been answered to their satisfaction for that FO and upper management. How they get out of this mess is another story but it is a mess that goes much deeper than the disaster of a rotation. I actually think there rotation moves will be guided by reality as much as anything else and the things they will not be able to do. I would say, getting a true 1 in here while being costly should be the prime concern. If they can't move Beckett, so be it. At least installing a true 1 will remove any doubt about whether we should be relying on Beckett or Lester in that role. I really don't think Buch is ready to assume that mantle either although he should emerge as the best starter of 2012 for this team. So if they do get a true 1 then whatever else they do in the rotation becomes less of an issue.

 

Then they can turn their attention to the everyday players where they really have to come up with some magic. They really do have a bunch of guys they have to change out just to get this to be a team again, a team that does not mortally injure itself at every turn. Why do you think they lose so many games to teams they should beat handily? They lose by combination of opponent play and self inflicted injury.

[a700hitter]

Just looked at the log of Reddick's 2012 home runs on HR Tracker. Not one of them has been a cheap shot. The shortest one was 356 feet. 11 of them were over 400 feet. Pretty impressive.

356 would be in the second deck at the band box in the Bronx.

[a700hitter]

Scutaro with 3 hits for the Giants. Youkilis with 2 Home Runs for the White Sox. Papelbon with his 24th save.

[a700hitter]

Scutaro with 3 hits, a Home Run and 7 RBI's on Wednesday night for the first place Giants against the Cardinals.

[Bellhorn04]

Billy Beane is really trying to stick it to us. 4 ex-Sox in the lineup today (they just signed Kottaras) and they all had at least 1 RBI.

[Bellhorn04]

Scutaro with 3 hits' date=' a Home Run and 7 RBI's on Wednesday night for the first place Giants against the Cardinals.[/quote']

 

Holy s***...the game of his career.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

When did Scutaro go to the Giants? Sorry, as bas as this Sox season has been it has killed my interest in baseball a bit and I haven't payed attention to much

[Emmz]

Trade deadline. Forgot what the Rockies got, doubt it was much.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Thanks. I payed attention to the deadline as much as possible but that slipped my radar

[a700hitter]

Trade deadline. Forgot what the Rockies got' date=' doubt it was much.[/quote']

 

For 2 months of Scutaro, the Rockies got Charlie Culberson --a 2007 first-round pick of the Giants, the 23-year-old Culberson hit .236 in 90 games with Triple-A Fresno. Culberson went 3-for-22 in six games with the Giants earlier this year.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Holy s***...the game of his career.

 

Nah, I think the game of his career will always be his walk-off three-run homer off of Mariano Rivera. Not many people can say they've hit a walk-off homer against Rivera. A few have hit game-tying or go-ahead homers, but the list of guys who have walked off on homers against him is only 5. Scutaro, Mueller (of course, we all remember that one), Ichiro, Vernon Wells, and Bill Selby for some reason.

[a700hitter]

Nah' date=' I think the game of his career will always be his walk-off three-run homer off of Mariano Rivera. Not many people can say they've hit a walk-off homer against Rivera. A few have hit game-tying or go-ahead homers, but the list of guys who have walked off on homers against him is only 5. Scutaro, Mueller (of course, we all remember that one), Ichiro, Vernon Wells, and Bill Selby for some reason. [/quote']I remember when Scutaro hit that HR for Oakland. He hit the net on the fould pole in LF pretty high up.

[SoxSport]

I wrote somewhere here last night Lavernway was named defensive catcher of the year in the IL by the managers.

 

There was a lot of bitching and moaning about Lav's defense the past year, and now it seems his defense was his strength. You figure a guy with his educational background would learn fast. It took the FO a long time to get the message. And they are still stuck with Shoppach. These guys are so friggin' cautious in everything they do, they get nothing done. This team will never win anything with Ben as GM. He is a classic Peter Principle case.

[jung]

But long before BC had the job the Sox have been plagued with keep them forever disease. The safest thing you can have happen to you is get a deal to come to the Red Sox, especially a FA deal. First off you are guaranteed to be overpaid which will make it tough to you move you later regardless of anything else and second, the team will keep you till you are in a wheelchair figuring that is the best way for the to justify having overpaid you in the first place.

[Thunder]

Well, Youk is doing fantastic. Lillibridge is with the Guardians. Great trade.

[ibot2much]

DLowe to the Yanks

[jung]

The problem with the Youk trade is not that they traded Youk...The problem is that they got nothing for him.

[Bellhorn04]

4 scoreless innings and a save for D-Lowe in his Yankee debut vs. the Rangers.

 

What else would you expect?

 

(The same D-Lowe who said he'd love to return to the Red Sox before the Yankees moved on him.)

[a700hitter]

4 scoreless innings and a save for D-Lowe in his Yankee debut vs. the Rangers.

 

What else would you expect?

 

(The same D-Lowe who said he'd love to return to the Red Sox before the Yankees moved on him.)

Good for him and screw our FO.

[Bellhorn04]

Good for him and screw our FO.

 

Have to agree.

[jung]

I do think the Sox have cashed out for the season. They are not going to say that they have cashed out but I think they have.

 

Look the bull pen is gasping for air. Dlowe would not have even taken up much grey matter to take care of. You cannot tell me that V would not have welcomed Dlowe with open arms.

 

If this was a situation requiring tons of money or Sox have no room for the player or no use for the player...that would be one thing. But make no mistake about it...this pen is gassed.

 

I know if asked BC would just pull out tape number 3275 "we are happy with the players that we have and are confident they can do the job".

[a700hitter]

It makes no sense that the re-signed a retread like Pods and sent Kalish back to AAA rather than taking a longer look at him, but they don't make a move for DLowe when their problem has clearly been pitching. If they are giving up, I understand not getting Dlowe, but why make the move for Pods?

[jung]

I cannot for the life of me figure out Pods especially now that I think dlowe would have just fallen into their laps and they did not take him.

 

On the one hand I guess I can rationalize that they would not have played Kalish every day here under any circumstances, cashed out on the season or not...they would have platooned him at best...whereas I think he is playing every single day in Pawtucket. That is the only way I can figure Pods.

 

I am thinking they thought it best for Kalish to play every day in Pawtucket as opposed to being platooned here. I really don't know about that either. If he could play most days here, would it not do him more good at this point to get as much exposure to the ML club as possible? They have to be thinking he is going to be here for sure next season right from the start of the season....I think??????