5/2 WMB vs AAA's

[User Name]

This team is playing absolutely pathetic baseball tonight and last night. It's unbelievable how they can just be shut down by any mediocre pitcher.

 

McCarthy's been pretty good since last year, though.

[User Name]

LOL' date=' he said the O's have a good pitching staff. Why isn't that someone's sig?[/quote']

 

Exactly.

[ellsburyforMVP]

How many innings do you expect at least from your starter? 5?

 

Now a days?? 6-7 seems to be the average... No pitcher goes out and consistently pitches 6-7-8 innings.... Some days you have to cut your losses, bard didn't have it tonight, but he still could of got out of this gm with 1 earned run and 5 innings..... If my starter " just doesn't have it " that day... I'll take 5 innings 1 ER any day

[FredLynn]

Exactly.

 

Here you go! http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/year/2012/seasontype/2/league/al

 

Got any stats that prove the O's are pitching poorly?

Thought not.

[jung]

For Native...The A's got their 1st run in the 4th on a Cespedas double followed by a Smith RBI hit.

 

Bard has been very erratic tonight. He just did not have his best stuff and there were some pitches he just could not throw for strikes at all.

 

The game looks very much like last night's game with the A's starter pitching a very good game and the Sox simply not playing enough baseball. The A's committed errors in the 5th I think which got the Sox two men on and nobody out. Byrd could not lay down a bunt successfully and then Aviles tried to pull a ball that he should have just tried to dump into right field and that was that for the one opportunity they had so far. Aviles was in fact safe at first as he beat the throw on the little dribbler that he hit but that really was not the issue.

 

You have seen the rest. C- performance from Bard tonight and a D- performance by the team behind him so far.

[SoxFanForsyth]

McCarthy's been pretty good since last year' date=' though.[/quote']

 

Not good enough to shut down the entire offense. This has been a pathetic showing. You get gifted a leadoff runner from Reddick, then you have an infield hit and it's a 1 run game and you can't even push across 1 run. That's beyond ridiculous.

[User Name]

Now a days?? 6-7 seems to be the average... No pitcher goes out and consistently pitches 6-7-8 innings.... Some days you have to cut your losses' date=' bard didn't have it tonight, but he still could of got out of this gm with 1 earned run and 5 innings..... If my starter " just doesn't have it " that day... I'll take 5 innings 1 ER any day[/quote']

 

The MLB average for IP/start in 2011 was exactly 6.

[Brennan]

Feels alot like a September 2011 game doesn't it? You can tell in the first three innings if this team is gonna mail it in. Weird.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Here you go! http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/year/2012/seasontype/2/league/al

 

Got any stats that prove the O's are pitching poorly?

Thought not.

 

Oh no, it's April. Fear us!

[Station 13]

Ortiz should hit 3rd.

[User Name]

Here you go! http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/year/2012/seasontype/2/league/al

 

Got any stats that prove the O's are pitching poorly?

Thought not.

 

I don't even need to break out the career ERA's of these pitchers, (specially the BP pitchers).

 

You keep hammering the "right now" point, but it means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of a baseball season. We all know it'll all even out, so i don't know what's the point with these ridiculous claims.

[ellsburyforMVP]

The MLB average for IP/start in 2011 was exactly 6.

 

So going by that... A 5 inning 1 run outing on a day that he just didn't have it, should be considered acceptable, I would think.... Irrelevant though cause bobby left him in....

[FredLynn]

Oh no' date=' it's April. Fear us![/quote']

 

Damn. I thought it was May.

No matter. The statistic speak for themselves...unless you have other numbers that prove that these are not correct.

Fact: right now our pitching is next to last in the AL and the Orioles have the second best pitching staff in the AL. Facts are a bitch too, eh?

[jung]

Bard did pitch poorly tonight. He pitched reasonably well for two innings but really did not establish anything to build off of. That said he was toughing it out at least. The team playing behind Bard tonight is more responsible for where they are in this game than Bard. He has still pitched poorly tonight...no question.

That combined with a well pitched game by the opponent who has even overcome errors by the team behind him.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Ortiz should hit 3rd.

 

He's off to the best start ( by far ) of his career..... I wouldn't mess with him a bit

[FredLynn]

I don't even need to break out the career ERA's of these pitchers, (specially the BP pitchers).

 

You keep hammering the "right now" point, but it means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of a baseball season. We all know it'll all even out, so i don't know what's the point with these ridiculous claims.

 

Right now is all we know for sure about this season. I could not care less about how Buchholtz did LAST year...or Lester..or Bard.....or the entire team. Can you provide the stats for the end of this season? No? Then you have to deal with the facts as they are right now.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Damn. I thought it was May.

No matter. The statistic speak for themselves...unless you have other numbers that prove that these are not correct.

Fact: right now our pitching is next to last in the AL and the Orioles have the second best pitching staff in the AL. Facts are a bitch too, eh?

 

I thought I was on ignore

 

I'll take the Red Sox pitching staff over the Orioles ANY DAY. The stats benefit you now, I guarantee they won't at the end of the season. Scratch that not even, by July they won't be in this position. You think the O's are a top pitching team in the AL?:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

I'm done.

[User Name]

So going by that... A 5 inning 1 run outing on a day that he just didn't have it' date=' should be considered acceptable, I would think.... Irrelevant though cause bobby left him in....[/quote']

 

If you consider the runs allowed, then yes.

[User Name]

I thought I was on ignore

 

I'll take the Red Sox pitching staff over the Orioles ANY DAY. The stats benefit you know, I guarantee they won't at the end of the season. Scratch that not even, by July they won't be in this position. You think the O's are a top pitching team in the AL?:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

I'm done.

 

It's a fact. Orioles have the best pitching staff in the AL East. You can quote me on that.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Here you go! http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/year/2012/seasontype/2/league/al

 

Got any stats that prove the O's are pitching poorly?

Thought not.

 

Yes.

 

The O's have a 6.93 K/9 (5th lowest in MLB). They have a .263 BABIP (5th lowest in the MLB). They are stranding 78.3% of all runners (2nd highest in MLB).

 

They have a 3.98 FIP, which is 1.04 runs higher than their ERA, indicating that they are getting extremely favorable outcomes.

 

These things normalize, and they'll be a bad team. Again.

[User Name]

Right now is all we know for sure about this season. I could not care less about how Buchholtz did LAST year...or Lester..or Bard.....or the entire team. Can you provide the stats for the end of this season? No? Then you have to deal with the facts as they are right now.

 

This is a massive intellectual cop-out. But hey, you're the one making the asinine statements. Have at it.

[Station 13]

Wait why is Mortersen here and not Tazawa?

[FredLynn]

I thought I was on ignore

 

I'll take the Red Sox pitching staff over the Orioles ANY DAY. The stats benefit you know, I guarantee they won't at the end of the season. Scratch that not even, by July they won't be in this position. You think the O's are a top pitching team in the AL?:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

I'm done.

 

I took you and VA off ignore...we will see how it goes.

I suspect you are probably right about the Orioles pitching ending up where it usually ends up. I am not sure our pitching will end up much above them, if at all.

[Brennan]

Maybe it's the Tito-esque nightly lineup changes? The offense is really feast or famine lately.

 

And by the way, as I've said before, Bard needs to be in the pen. He is an above average reliever and if this team would aquire some decent SP in the offseasons lately instead of Brad Penny, John Smolts,and the like or spending other team's salaries on things like Carl Crawford, wwe wouldn't have to pull the joba routine on Daniel.

[FredLynn]

Wait why is Mortersen here and not Tazawa?

 

Tazawa was sent back to Pawtucket.

[User Name]

Maybe it's the Tito-esque nightly lineup changes? The offense is really feast or famine lately.

 

And by the way, as I've said before, Bard needs to be in the pen. He is an above average reliever and if this team would aquire some decent SP in the offseasons lately instead of Brad Penny, John Smolts,and the like or spending other team's salaries on things like Carl Crawford, wwe wouldn't have to pull the joba routine on Daniel.

 

You mean like John Lackey, and the way it blew up in the team's face? Haven't you been very openly critical (no surprise there) of horse-face and his ugly mug?

 

Can't have it both ways.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Adrian Gonzalez is going to have to OPS a little higher than .711 for this team to win any games this year.

[Brennan]

Tazawa was sent back to Pawtucket.

 

 

Yeah, why start putting good arms in the BP? It's not modern day Sox like.

[Brennan]

You mean like John Lackey, and the way it blew up in the team's face? Haven't you been very openly critical (no surprise there) of horse-face and his ugly mug?

 

Can't have it both ways.

 

 

I have never mentioned John Lackey.

 

What the f*** are you even talking about?

[FredLynn]

Yeah' date=' why start putting good arms in the BP? It's not modern day Sox like.[/quote']

 

It was a surprise that he was sent back down. Pretty strange.