Yankees agree to sign Kuroda

[italstallianion]

oh you got dozens of aaaa pitchers? Well then one dozen.

 

It seems like every day the Sox sign another s***** depth pitcher. Carlos Silva, Justin Germano, Aaron Cook, Doug Mathis, in addition Andrew Miller, Felix Doubront, Junichi Tazawa, Michael Bowden, and probably plenty more. And don't forget about potentially getting Vicente Padilla too.

[iortiz]

It seems like every day the Sox sign another s***** depth pitcher. Carlos Silva' date=' Justin Germano, Aaron Cook, Doug Mathis, in addition Andrew Miller, Felix Doubront, Junichi Tazawa, Michael Bowden, and probably plenty more. And don't forget about potentially getting Vicente Padilla too.[/quote']

[italstallianion]

I prefer durability with a decent performance (4.5 ERA). You need a solid and HEALTHY #4. Both can deliver a +-4.5 ERA. These days Kuroda is healthy. Oswalt? I have no idea. If both healthy' date=' I agree, I prefer Oswalt.[/quote']

 

 

We have plenty of pitchers that can give us innings. I'd rather go for the better innings. Not to mention that we have pitchers coming back from injuries and of course the 40 man rosters for the last month and a short playoff rotation.

[italstallianion]

 

 

You laugh now but the Sox are going to "raise" the Yankees Pineda/Kuroda signing by signing someone like Dontrelle Willis.

[iortiz]

You laugh now but the Sox are going to "raise" the Yankees Pineda/Kuroda signing by signing someone like Dontrelle Willis.

 

Did you watch the goodfellas movie? suddenly you made me remember that scene when Henry (Liotta) said to Tommy (Pesci) "You are a very funny guy", the same goes to you, mate

[iortiz]

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Enjoy it!

[jacksonianmarch]

Park factors. Line ups.

 

And oh by the way. You're projecting Kuroda to replicate a career year. And for Garcia to replicate a career year.

 

A career yr? His WAR was 2.4, the lowest in 3 seasons

[jacksonianmarch]

3.56ERA 1.37WHIP, over 6IP per start. Very underrated signing.

[jacksonianmarch]

Kuroda is a good #4-#5 pitcher. He's not someone I would ever want to count on in a top 3 of the rotation, or in a post season match up.

 

That said, if Hughes steps up, he could take the #3 spot.

 

To be honest, I was never all that impressed with Pineda. He's a big guy, got a big arm, but he gets torched in small parks.

 

Not trying to be biased, but I don't think the Yankees rotation got all that much better to be honest. Look at last year.

 

You had Colon who posted a 111 ERA+ that you are replacing with Pineda, who posted a 103 ERA+.

 

Long term, definitely a big step in the right direction. But it's kind of like when the Sox replaced Beltre and Vic with Gonzo and Crawford. In 2011, the production was projected to be similar. But going forward, you were getting much more production with Gonzo and Crawford than you were with Vic and Beltre.

 

The big step is obviously Kuroda (121 ERA+) over Burnett (86 ERA+). But - a lot of that will be offset if Kuroda returns to his career norm of around a 111 ERA+, and if Garcia returns to his career norm of around a 109 ERA+ (he had a 122 ERA+ in 2011).

 

Summary -

 

Pineda + Kuroda (2011 numbers) = 224 ERA+

 

Burnett + Colon (2011 numbers) = 197 ERA+

 

If Kuroda and/or Garcia return to career numbers, that would offset that quite a bit more (anywhere from 201-214 for Pineda + Kuroda).

 

Looking at the numbers a little closer, I'm not all that impressed. I don't think they made as big of an addition as it's being made out to be.

 

How's that looking now? Kuroda has been the #3 pitcher in ALL OF BASEBALL in WAR. I think the addition is a little bit more than nothing major.

[Youk Of The Nation]

How's that looking now? Kuroda has been the #3 pitcher in ALL OF BASEBALL in WAR. I think the addition is a little bit more than nothing major.

 

Yeah, but...oh, ow. Sorry. I tried really hard to care for a second there...made my head hurt.

[Behindenemylines]

An we got stuck with Dice-K !