JetBlue Park - 2012 Spring Training

[Spudboy]

I must have read different Globe articles than you did. They completely threw Tito under the bus in typical Boston media fashion' date=' bringing up the alleged prescription drug thing and his marriage problems. I had never heard of those issues before the collapse. The Boston media craps on anyone who leaves, they always have.[/quote']

 

Yeah, and I don't get it at all. Unquestionably Tito's strongest virtue as a Manager was his finesse in handling the media. He always seemed to provide ample time and access and was very quotable. So I see no reason for anyone in the Boston media to crap on the man. Just trying to "sell", I guess.

[Spudboy]

I really like it. Hadlock Field in Portland' date=' Maine, also has a replica left field wall called the Maine Monster. I love watching games there.[/quote']

 

I believe The Greenville Drive have a replica Monster as well.

[VA Sox Fan]

Yeah' date=' and I don't get it at all. Unquestionably Tito's strongest virtue as a Manager was his finesse in handling the media. He always seemed to provide ample time and access and was very quotable. So I see no reason for anyone in the Boston media to crap on the man. Just trying to "sell", I guess.[/quote']

 

He was great with the media. Even when times were rough. Always available, always pleasant/funny. Never defensive, moody or short w/ reporters.

 

Just the small sample of him in the ESPN booth showed me a lot. He'll be SO much better than Valentine was. Hopefully BV will have better success as a mananger. I couldn't watch the games if he was in the booth.

 

It's Boston tradition to crap on anyone who leaves. What bothered me the most that Cafardo had a hand in it. I don't respect too many Boston sports writers, but have always liked him. I would have expected that from Shaughnessy because he's an ass.

[ibot2much]

There was something in TF's private life that did cause him some major problems with the team. By his own admission, he could not longer influence players with whom he had influence in the past. If there was no carry-over into the locker room, then it would not have become an issue....but it did. The guys were the ones who turned against TF.

 

Where does that put the Boston media? Yea, they liked him and he co-operated with him. Would they have closed their eyes if the team continued to do well? I think so. There was nothing being said ( that I recall) until the team fell apart even though his personal problems this may have been going on for a while.

[MANNYHOF24]

He was great with the media. Even when times were rough. Always available, always pleasant/funny. Never defensive, moody or short w/ reporters.

 

Just the small sample of him in the ESPN booth showed me a lot. He'll be SO much better than Valentine was. Hopefully BV will have better success as a mananger. I couldn't watch the games if he was in the booth.

 

It's Boston tradition to crap on anyone who leaves. What bothered me the most that Cafardo had a hand in it. I don't respect too many Boston sports writers, but have always liked him. I would have expected that from Shaughnessy because he's an ass.

 

It honestly still hasn't sunk in that Terry isn't the manager anymore. It's a very weird feeling. As much as his in game moves left something to be desired, it was always comforting to hear him analyze the game and talk about the team.

[Spudboy]

He was great with the media. Even when times were rough. Always available, always pleasant/funny. Never defensive, moody or short w/ reporters.

 

Just the small sample of him in the ESPN booth showed me a lot. He'll be SO much better than Valentine was. Hopefully BV will have better success as a mananger. I couldn't watch the games if he was in the booth.

 

It's Boston tradition to crap on anyone who leaves. What bothered me the most that Cafardo had a hand in it. I don't respect too many Boston sports writers, but have always liked him. I would have expected that from Shaughnessy because he's an ass.

 

Shaughnessy is an ass in real time also. I spoke to him while walking toward McCoy one day (Clemens was making a rehab start for the Pawsox). What a pretentious douche. My Brother-in-Law and Sister have friends in common with him and they say he is smug (polite way of saying he is a douche) at cocktail parties.

[VA Sox Fan]

There was something in TF's private life that did cause him some major problems with the team. By his own admission, he could not longer influence players with whom he had influence in the past. If there was no carry-over into the locker room, then it would not have become an issue....but it did. The guys were the ones who turned against TF.

 

Where does that put the Boston media? Yea, they liked him and he co-operated with him. Would they have closed their eyes if the team continued to do well? I think so. There was nothing being said ( that I recall) until the team fell apart even though his personal problems this may have been going on for a while.

 

It is common knowledge that the Boston media throws everyone whoever leaves the Red Sox under the bus. It has gone on for decades.

 

You do bot 2 much. Are you a member of the media?

[VA Sox Fan]

Shaughnessy is an ass in real time also. I spoke to him while walking toward McCoy one day (Clemens was making a rehab start for the Pawsox). What a pretentious douche. My Brother-in-Law and Sister have friends in common with him and they say he is smug (polite way of saying he is a douche) at cocktail parties.

 

I can believe that. It pours over into his writing. Douche!

[Bellhorn04]

I can believe that. It pours over into his writing. Douche!

 

What convinced me Shaughnessy was a douche was his unrelenting insults toward Schilling. Now I know Schilling is a guy who could rub people the wrong way, but Shaughnessy would call him the Blogboy, or the Big Blowhard, in every freaking thing he wrote about him.

[VA Sox Fan]

What convinced me Shaughnessy was a douche was his unrelenting insults toward Schilling. Now I know Schilling is a guy who could rub people the wrong way' date=' but Shaughnessy would call him the Blogboy, or the Big Blowhard, in every freaking thing he wrote about him.[/quote']

 

That drove me nuts!!

[ibot2much]

What convinced me Shaughnessy was a douche was his unrelenting insults toward Schilling. Now I know Schilling is a guy who could rub people the wrong way' date=' but Shaughnessy would call him the Blogboy, or the Big Blowhard, in every freaking thing he wrote about him.[/quote']

 

Made me laugh.....there were worse things you could have called Schill

[Emmz]

Made me laugh.....there were worse things you could have called Schill

 

Like "best pitcher on the Red Sox staff"?

[ibot2much]

Like "best pitcher on the Red Sox staff"?

 

if you consider that "worse" . Funny stuff

[Emmz]

if you consider that "worse" . Funny stuff

 

Its easy to call anyone something worse than a "blowhard" or "blogboy". Thats about equivalent to calling David Ortiz "Big Diva" or Theo "Blunder". Just call someone a f***er and give in to the fact that your humor is about as qualified as Dane Cook's.

[ibot2much]

Its easy to call anyone something worse than a "blowhard" or "blogboy". Thats about equivalent to calling David Ortiz "Big Diva" or Theo "Blunder". Just call someone a f***er and give in to the fact that your humor is about as qualified as Dane Cook's.

 

An here I was talking about Beckett's fixation....you seem to have one with me. Here I am a newbie and I find you coming on to me with your "pretend" insults just to get my attention. Go away Auntie Em.

[Elktonnick]

An here I was talking about Beckett's fixation....you seem to have one with me. Here I am a newbie and I find you coming on to me with your "pretend" insults just to get my attention. Go away Auntie Em.

 

Nicknames have been a part of baseball since the year dot and not just complimentary ones. Leo "the Lip", Eddie "the Brat", "Shoeless "Joe, "Dizzy" and "Daffy" Dean etc, were hardly complimentary. The Big Diva is hardly out of line or inconsistent with that tradition.

[Emmz]

An here I was talking about Beckett's fixation....you seem to have one with me. Here I am a newbie and I find you coming on to me with your "pretend" insults just to get my attention. Go away Auntie Em.

 

You feel insulted by comments about how dry Shaughnessy's humor tank is? Thin-skinned troll is thin-skinned.

[ibot2much]

Nicknames have been a part of baseball since the year dot and not just complimentary ones. Leo "the Lip"' date=' Eddie "the Brat", "Shoeless "Joe, "Dizzy" and "Daffy" Dean etc, were hardly complimentary. The Big Diva is hardly out of line or inconsistent with that tradition.[/quote']

 

 

 

But we have to be careful that we don't offend the sensibilities of the gentle flowers who post here. The Big Diva is pretty self-centered so it does fit

[Emmz]

But we have to be careful that we don't offend the sensibilities of the gentle flowers who post here. The Big Diva is pretty self-centered so it does fit

 

Delusional, sensitive, crappy sense of humor, struts around victoriously when getting his chops. Sup Reck?

[Elktonnick]

But we have to be careful that we don't offend the sensibilities of the gentle flowers who post here. The Big Diva is pretty self-centered so it does fit

 

If they think it's bad now it used to be a lot worse years ago, the "Werewolves" of right field didn't earn that moniker because they were sprinkling rose petals on Jackie Jensen. They would have called Drew a lot worse than "Nancy".

[Emmz]

No one's sensitive about nicknames. I'll give props if its decent. At least Nancy Drew was fitting in a couple of ways. Just like comedy, you're going to get heckled when you put s***** material out there.

 

End of discussion.

[Bellhorn04]

Nicknames have been a part of baseball since the year dot and not just complimentary ones. Leo "the Lip"' date=' Eddie "the Brat", "Shoeless "Joe, "Dizzy" and "Daffy" Dean etc, were hardly complimentary. The Big Diva is hardly out of line or inconsistent with that tradition.[/quote']

 

I would say Big Diva is about the last thing Ortiz wants to be called, because it's an insult to his character. I think it's different, and worse, than the ones you mentioned, which all at least have a semblance of being 'affectionate' names.

[VA Sox Fan]

Nicknames have been a part of baseball since the year dot and not just complimentary ones. Leo "the Lip"' date=' Eddie "the Brat", "Shoeless "Joe, "Dizzy" and "Daffy" Dean etc, were hardly complimentary. The Big Diva is hardly out of line or inconsistent with that tradition.[/quote']

 

Other players/managers referred to those guys by those nicknames and that's normal. Outside of this board, I have never heard anyone refer to Papi as Big Diva.

[Elktonnick]

Other players/managers referred to those guys by those nicknames and that's normal. Outside of this board' date=' I have never heard anyone refer to Papi as Big Diva.[/quote']

 

How often to you listen to D&C and Fegler & Mazz. I've heard others refer to him as such.

[ibot2much]

I would say Big Diva is about the last thing Ortiz wants to be called' date=' because it's an insult to his character. I think it's different, and worse, than the ones you mentioned, which all at least have a semblance of being 'affectionate' names.[/quote']

 

I don't think board nicknames are usually affectionate. They reflect what people feel are negatives in the personality/ability etc of that player. I am sure David would not appreciate being called a diva......however, do people see that in his personality ( not so much character)??

[Emmz]

Its just not funny or creative.

 

I could care less how affectionate or disrespectful the nicks are. Blogboy, Big Diva, would make me chuckle the same way you chuckle at young children who make an attempt at humor. It might not be "funny" but its sort of adoreable.

[VA Sox Fan]

How often to you listen to D&C and Fegler & Mazz. I've heard others refer to him as such.

 

Never. The nicknames that stick and that people are rememberd by are ususally given by other players/managers.

 

David Ortiz will always be remembered as Big Papi.

[User Name]

Unsurprising that some of this material comes from Mazz, seeing how he's the very definition of an insufferable douche.

[Elktonnick]

I would say Big Diva is about the last thing Ortiz wants to be called' date=' because it's an insult to his character. I think it's different, and worse, than the ones you mentioned, which all at least have a semblance of being 'affectionate' names.[/quote']

 

Ortiz is so sensitive he strikes me as someone who is offended at the slightest criticism, remark or gesture, hence the nonsense about the RBI. I know Eddie Stanky didn't like being called the "Brat". All negative nicknames generally are reflection on character, Leo the Lip certainly was as was Dizzy Dean. Initially none of the ones I menetioned were originally meant as affectionate. But became so over time as people such as Dizzy and Daffy learned to embrace it and use it to their advantage.

[Elktonnick]

Never. The nicknames that stick and that people are rememberd by are ususally given by other players/managers.

 

David Ortiz will always be remembered as Big Papi.

 

Not true! Some of the greatest nicknames were given by the great sport writers. It is in another sport but the Galloping Ghost and the Four Horseman come to mind. You know who gave Dick Radatz his nickname don't you?