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David Murphy's career, especially post Red Sox, is nothing to sneeze at. He's established himself as a very competent 4th OF who can start for long stretches in the event of an injury, not just play all 3 outfield posts but play them fairly well defensively, and hit for both OBP and power, and his play played a big role on the Rangers making the postseason and getting to the World Series on 09.

 

When he was originally called up, Murphy was a guy people were comparing Reddick to, hoping he could reach that level. Of course since he's gone on an absolute tear, like the one Murphy had at first with the Rangers before he settled into his role as a competent outfielder with a lot to recommend him, but not precisely a superstar.

 

My question is basically, right now, where are we projecting Reddick to fall as an offensive player? In Murphy territory? Above? Below? Are we calling Reddick a surefire 140 game starting OF with an .800 OPS+? Would a Murphylike career represent disappointment or is he one of those glue guys championship squads wind up and we'd all be pretty happy if that's what Reddick wound up being?

 

Basically I want an idea what people think Reddick will wind up doing in terms of role and productivity, and Murphy, a solid 3 position outfielder who has proven very useful to his team as an average or better hitter year in, year out, is IMHO a good place to tentatively set the standard.

 

Thoughts?

 

(oh, and on the subject of alternate history, what if Murphy rather than Drew had been our starting RF? What if we'd "gone young" back then? Do we still win it in 07? Are we in a better position now?)

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David Murphy's career, especially post Red Sox, is nothing to sneeze at. He's established himself as a very competent 4th OF who can start for long stretches in the event of an injury, not just play all 3 outfield posts but play them fairly well defensively, and hit for both OBP and power, and his play played a big role on the Rangers making the postseason and getting to the World Series on 09.

 

When he was originally called up, Murphy was a guy people were comparing Reddick to, hoping he could reach that level. Of course since he's gone on an absolute tear, like the one Murphy had at first with the Rangers before he settled into his role as a competent outfielder with a lot to recommend him, but not precisely a superstar.

 

My question is basically, right now, where are we projecting Reddick to fall as an offensive player? In Murphy territory? Above? Below? Are we calling Reddick a surefire 140 game starting OF with an .800 OPS+? Would a Murphylike career represent disappointment or is he one of those glue guys championship squads wind up and we'd all be pretty happy if that's what Reddick wound up being?

 

Basically I want an idea what people think Reddick will wind up doing in terms of role and productivity, and Murphy, a solid 3 position outfielder who has proven very useful to his team as an average or better hitter year in, year out, is IMHO a good place to tentatively set the standard.

 

Thoughts?

 

(oh, and on the subject of alternate history, what if Murphy rather than Drew had been our starting RF? What if we'd "gone young" back then? Do we still win it in 07? Are we in a better position now?)

 

Between the pitching staff and guys like Pedroia and Youk, in 2007 I think I could have been the starting right fielder and the Sox still would have won.

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I think when he cools off' date=' you will see that his pitch selection will still be his soft spot[/quote']

 

He demonstrated the opposite of that in AAA where he was hitting just .230 and walked 33 times in 52 games.

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David Murphy's career, especially post Red Sox, is nothing to sneeze at. He's established himself as a very competent 4th OF who can start for long stretches in the event of an injury, not just play all 3 outfield posts but play them fairly well defensively, and hit for both OBP and power, and his play played a big role on the Rangers making the postseason and getting to the World Series on 09.

 

When he was originally called up, Murphy was a guy people were comparing Reddick to, hoping he could reach that level. Of course since he's gone on an absolute tear, like the one Murphy had at first with the Rangers before he settled into his role as a competent outfielder with a lot to recommend him, but not precisely a superstar.

 

My question is basically, right now, where are we projecting Reddick to fall as an offensive player? In Murphy territory? Above? Below? Are we calling Reddick a surefire 140 game starting OF with an .800 OPS+? Would a Murphylike career represent disappointment or is he one of those glue guys championship squads wind up and we'd all be pretty happy if that's what Reddick wound up being?

 

Basically I want an idea what people think Reddick will wind up doing in terms of role and productivity, and Murphy, a solid 3 position outfielder who has proven very useful to his team as an average or better hitter year in, year out, is IMHO a good place to tentatively set the standard.

 

Thoughts?

 

(oh, and on the subject of alternate history, what if Murphy rather than Drew had been our starting RF? What if we'd "gone young" back then? Do we still win it in 07? Are we in a better position now?)

 

Developmentally, Reddick is leaps and bounds ahead of where Murphy was at this age. Reddick was in AA at age 22 and got a cup of coffee in the majors, Murphy was in A at age 23. Reddick was generally a year or two younger than Murphy at the same level and his OPS in the minors was still over .100 points higher than Murphy.

 

I think Reddick will hit for power because he has at every level of his development. I'd be surprised if he's not able to be a 20+ HR, .500 SLG guy. He also more of a contact hitter that people give him credit for, he was rushed through the minors and still hit .278. The wild card will be his patience. He walking at a rate this year that's almost twice as much as his previous walk totals. If he can keep that up, .280/.360/.550 is well within reach. If he goes back to being overaggressive, he's probably more like a .275/.350/.500 hitter.

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I think he'll settle out as a mid .700s OPS player capable of hitting double digit homers. I think when he cools off' date=' you will see that his pitch selection will still be his soft spot[/quote']

 

lol you wish, dude looks like a solid .800-.850 OPS corner OF with all the tools

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lol you wish' date=' dude looks like a solid .800-.850 OPS corner OF with all the tools[/quote']

 

Consider the source :lol:

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David Murphy's career, especially post Red Sox, is nothing to sneeze at. He's established himself as a very competent 4th OF who can start for long stretches in the event of an injury, not just play all 3 outfield posts but play them fairly well defensively, and hit for both OBP and power, and his play played a big role on the Rangers making the postseason and getting to the World Series on 09.

 

When he was originally called up, Murphy was a guy people were comparing Reddick to, hoping he could reach that level. Of course since he's gone on an absolute tear, like the one Murphy had at first with the Rangers before he settled into his role as a competent outfielder with a lot to recommend him, but not precisely a superstar.

 

My question is basically, right now, where are we projecting Reddick to fall as an offensive player? In Murphy territory? Above? Below? Are we calling Reddick a surefire 140 game starting OF with an .800 OPS+? Would a Murphylike career represent disappointment or is he one of those glue guys championship squads wind up and we'd all be pretty happy if that's what Reddick wound up being?

 

Basically I want an idea what people think Reddick will wind up doing in terms of role and productivity, and Murphy, a solid 3 position outfielder who has proven very useful to his team as an average or better hitter year in, year out, is IMHO a good place to tentatively set the standard.

 

Thoughts?

 

(oh, and on the subject of alternate history, what if Murphy rather than Drew had been our starting RF? What if we'd "gone young" back then? Do we still win it in 07? Are we in a better position now?)

To be honest, you are the only person I've seen this comp from. Murphy never demonstrated Reddick's ability to make really good contact in the minors (~32% XBH rate and .407 SLG, compared to Reddick's ~40% and .500 SLG - not to mentioned Murphy was older at every level).

 

This is a non-thread, and any comparison should have just been kept in the "What is Reddick" thread.

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