7/6 vs Blue Jays

[BostonSouth]

Nobody is saying ERA means nothing. Papelbon has come in and converted all but 1 save this year. I don't care what his ERA is' date=' he comes in and gets the job done. It may not be pretty, which will either result in 1) Pap coming back to the Sox at a discount for a short-term contract to build value, or 2) Pap getting signed by some other team. So it's a win-win for the Sox. Besides, Pap has not blown the lead so much as to lead to a L, even though the offense saved him in the OAK game. Regardless, he's doing fine.[/quote']

 

Originally Posted by RedSoxfanforlife305

Right because I said ERA means nothing.

 

What did I miss?

[AtWork]

Just one more day of work and I'm headed to Fenway for a long weekend!

[SoxFanForsyth]

I really hate fielder's indifference when the other team gets a base runner in the 9th inning. Throw the dang guy out at second! I don't get the point of offering teams a RISP for free, plus losing a force out at second. What's the worst that could happen if you try to throw him out? The catcher chucks the ball into CF and the runner goes to third. Pretty unlikely (unless Cervelli is behind the dish), and really, who cares? You're giving him second anyway. You're saying that you don't care if that run scores or not, so what's the difference between a runner at 2B and a runner at 3B?

 

Just for once I want to see the final out made on a CS when some lumbering DH takes off for second just assuming that the catcher will be "indifferent". That would be like sweet sweet honey.

 

On a personal note, I leave for Africa in a week and will probably be pretty inactive for the next three years (not that I've been setting posting records in the year I've been back in the States). It's been fun to lurk and occasionally post. Blessings on you all, and go Sox!

 

The reason for the defensive indifference is so that the 1st baseman doesn't hold him on and has a ton more range. The runner has a huge lead and huge jump, so there's no reason to try to throw out the runner, it wouldn't even be close.

[Beaneater]

The reason for the defensive indifference is so that the 1st baseman doesn't hold him on and has a ton more range. The runner has a huge lead and huge jump' date=' so there's no reason to try to throw out the runner, it wouldn't even be close.[/quote']

 

Duh. I didn't think of that. (Not sarcasm -- I seriously didn't think of that.) Still, I'd like to see the numbers on how much it hurts to have the 1B hold the runner vs. how much it hurts to grant the runner second base.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Nobody is saying ERA means nothing. Papelbon has come in and converted all but 1 save this year. I don't care what his ERA is' date=' he comes in and gets the job done. It may not be pretty, which will either result in 1) Pap coming back to the Sox at a discount for a short-term contract to build value, or 2) Pap getting signed by some other team. So it's a win-win for the Sox. Besides, Pap has not blown the lead so much as to lead to a L, even though the offense saved him in the OAK game. Regardless, he's doing fine.[/quote']

 

Getting the job done is correct in the grand scheme of things, but still it could easily be worse than it has been. It could only be a matter of time before he's blowing saves left and right if he keeps pitching like he has. He's given up more hits than innings he's pitched. That's not necessarily good for someone who's a closer. Luckily his walks have been down.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Getting the job done is correct in the grand scheme of things' date=' but still it could easily be worse than it has been. It could only be a matter of time before he's blowing saves left and right if he keeps pitching like he has. He's given up more hits than innings he's pitched. That's not necessarily good for someone who's a closer. Luckily his walks have been down.[/quote']

 

Yeah it very well may catch up to him. Here's something really interesting.

 

Papelbon in Non-Save Situations: 5.65 ERA

Papelbon in Save Situations - 2.79 ERA

[TylerD]

It's crazy how the cream is rising to the top.

 

BOS and NYY are both 51 game winners (Yanks have 1 fewer loss). Both have W% of .595-.600 (97 win season). Outside of that, the best record in the AL is the Rays (.552, 89 wins), Guardians (.541, 88 wins), and Tigers (.523, 85 wins).

 

PHI and ATL are the BOS and NYY of the NL. PHI has a .632 W% (102 wins), ATL has a .591 W% (96 wins), and the closest to them is SF, with a .552 W% (89 wins). After that it's the Brewers who are at .523, on track for just 85 wins.

 

Pretty crazy.

 

It really is a thing of beauty to see that record at the end of the day with 50 plus wins right now.... I dont care how we have won some of the games, at the end of the day when I see how nice our record looks it makes it worth while.... After sitting through my other teams (Senators, Seahawks) Last year its a breath of fresh air to see Boston doing so well this year. Just have to keep it up. I dont wanna be the one to jinx this team. The one thing I find funny is that this division as of late has been between the Yankees and Red sox.... Yankees trying to keep the lead but Boston closing in on them... It must be driving Rays fans nuts after the season they had last year lol.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

And you are the authority exactly why? The guy just pitched two innings' date=' gave up 3 (shoulda' been 4) runs, actually did blow a save last night (guy was safe) and you're not the slightest bit concerned? You know some inside s*** that none of the rest of us know? Given our starting pitching right now, the bullpen is key..and this guy is not exactly shutting anyone down.......[/quote']

 

What in the hell are you talking about? You know what never mind forget it.

[a700hitter]

And you are the authority exactly why? The guy just pitched two innings' date=' gave up 3 (shoulda' been 4) runs, actually did blow a save last night (guy was safe) and you're not the slightest bit concerned?.[/quote']I am always concerned when the Sox are trying to lock down a victory in the 9th inning. However, other than Brian Wilson, there is no one I would rather have closing out games for us this year. Period.

[Palodios]

Why Brian Wilson?

[RedSox_Ruszkowski]

i'm happy with Pap as a closer, i'm just not as confident in him as i once was. he definitely can make a ninth inning, 2-run game interesting....

[redsoxrules]

Papelbon has been quite unlucky this year .

 

it seems everytime someone puts wood on the ball it finds a hole .

 

His K rate is his best since 2007 and his BB is quite lower than previous 2 years .

[redsoxbeatz]

Why Brian Wilson?

 

The Beard. & is wicked awesome.

[Station 13]

Papelbon has been quite unlucky this year .

 

it seems everytime someone puts wood on the ball it finds a hole .

 

His 24% line drive ball in play has a lot to do with that.

[a700hitter]

Why Brian Wilson?

Why not Brian Wilson?

[BornToRun]

Yeah it very well may catch up to him. Here's something really interesting.

 

Papelbon in Non-Save Situations: 5.65 ERA

Papelbon in Save Situations - 2.79 ERA

 

Plus, how skewed is that number by the blowup against Oakland? I'd like to see Pap's overall numbers in save or tie game situations. I bet they're a lot more pretty than the overall line. I'm ecstatic at what Jon's given us this year providing what happened last season.

[BornToRun]

Why Brian Wilson?

 

My guess is because his beard is f***ing awesome.