2011 Yankee Gamethread

[Palodios]

Russell Martin with a 4 run HR #10 for a 4-1 lead. He sucks.

 

Salty -- .258 .322 .440 .762

Martin -- .229 .333 .393 .726

[a700hitter]

Salty -- .258 .322 .440 .762

Martin -- .229 .333 .393 .726

Like I have been saying all along, we'd be happy if Salty puts up an off year for Martin.

[Palodios]

Like I have been saying all along' date=' we'd be happy if Salty puts up an off year for Martin.[/quote']

 

And like everyone was been telling you, Martin is broken. He came out of the game hot, but since April 23, his numbers have been very similar to Mike Cameron-- and he's been a sub .200 hitter.Very likely because his body can't hold up for a full season.

[a700hitter]

And like everyone was been telling you' date=' Martin is broken. He came out of the game hot, but since April 23, his numbers have been very similar to Mike Cameron-- and he's been a sub .200 hitter.Very likely because his body can't hold up for a full season.[/quote']If we signed him and he went on the DL, we'd have depth with Salty in AAA. There was no reason not to get him. He has been overused by the Yankees, because their backup options are horrible.

[Palodios]

If we signed him and he went on the DL' date=' we'd have depth with Salty in AAA. There was no reason not to get him. He has been overused by the Yankees, because their backup options are horrible.[/quote']

 

4 million dollars for a guy to hit for one month. I'd rather put it towards a RHH RF at the trade deadline.

[a700hitter]

4 million dollars for a guy to hit for one month. I'd rather put it towards a RHH RF at the trade deadline.

He has helped the Yankees, played solid D, run the bases well, and stabilized a marginally talented staff enough that they are in first place.

[jacksonianmarch]

He has helped the Yankees' date=' played solid D, run the bases well, and stabilized a marginally talented staff enough that they are in first place.[/quote']

 

His defense and handling of the pitching staff are night and day compared to Posada. The biggest problem I have is that they had him play through a back injury that essentially sapped him of his ability to hit, AND they ran him into the ground early without giving him rest. He is coming off a hip injury you know. He's been a godsend for this team.

[a700hitter]

His defense and handling of the pitching staff are night and day compared to Posada. The biggest problem I have is that they had him play through a back injury that essentially sapped him of his ability to hit' date=' AND they ran him into the ground early without giving him rest. He is coming off a hip injury you know. He's been a godsend for this team.[/quote']Some people just don't get it that if the Red Sox had signed him it would have hurt the Yankees even more than it helped the Red Sox. It was a major gaffe by Theo.

[jacksonianmarch]

It also gives the Yankees a chance to work with Montero for one more season on his defense. He and Romine are the Yankee future at catcher, but rushing the kid this yr into the position or having another yr of Posada would be a problem

[yankees228]

I do wonder when this Nunez thing is going to reach its breaking point. He's an enormous liability on the most routine plays.

 

And the HP ump steals a K from CC. Wonderful.

[jacksonianmarch]

Jeter doesnt get to that ball, so I cannot fault him there, but the kid does need to rein in his throws

[jacksonianmarch]

BTW, Hughes threw a gem in Trenton, throwing ched as well. Sounds like Hughes is ready as is Colon. Colon starts Saturday, and it sounds like the Yanks might go to a 6 man rotation for a couple turns

[yankees228]

Jeter doesnt get to that ball' date=' so I cannot fault him there, but the kid does need to rein in his throws[/quote']

 

Oh I agree, I don't necessarily mean that play ... despite the fact that it sparked the comment. He just cannot throw the ball, which is sort of a problem for a shortstop.

 

And I really like the strategy last inning of pitching around Braun to get to Fielder, especially with CC on the mound.

[yankees228]

BTW' date=' Hughes threw a gem in Trenton, throwing ched as well. Sounds like Hughes is ready as is Colon. Colon starts Saturday, and it sounds like the Yanks might go to a 6 man rotation for a couple turns[/quote']

 

Heard this too. I'm OK with it as long as CC still goes every five days.

[jacksonianmarch]

CC dominating a good hitting lineup. And our s*** lineup somehow got 4 runs for him.

[yankees228]

Girardi really is so strange. He's willing to let CC throw 118 pitches, but he won't let him throw a few more to get Fielder, who's a great matchup for him.

[AtWork]

Russell Martin

2009 - .250/.352/.329

2010 - .248/.347/.332

2011 - .230/.33/.407

 

Hitting like that for one year is a fluke, hitting that way for two years is a trend, hitting that way for three years is demonstrative of ability. And his defense this year has been some of the worst of his career.

[yankees228]

Russell Martin

2009 - .250/.352/.329

2010 - .248/.347/.332

2011 - .230/.33/.407

 

Hitting like that for one year is a fluke, hitting that way for two years is a trend, hitting that way for three years is demonstrative of ability. And his defense this year has been some of the worst of his career.

 

If he can produce a wOBA around .340, that's quite good. As for his defense, it has been overrated by most, but the pitchers all say that they love working with him. Just because something like that can't be quantified doesn't mean it should be disregarded.

[AtWork]

If he can produce a wOBA around .340' date=' that's quite good. As for his defense, it has been overrated by most, but the pitchers all say that they love working with him. Just because something like that can't be quantified doesn't mean it should be disregarded.[/quote']

 

He's been downhill ever since April. Since then, he's had a slash line of something like .190/.310/.310. As for his game calling ability, I'm sure he looks like the second coming of Jason Varitek after these pitchers have been throwing to Jorge Posada. I wouldn't put too much stock in pitchers saying they like throwing to someone anyways, when's the last time you heard a Yankees pitcher say they didn't like throwing to someone?

[yankees228]

He's been downhill ever since April. Since then' date=' he's had a slash line of something like .190/.310/.310. As for his game calling ability, I'm sure he looks like the second coming of Jason Varitek after these pitchers have been throwing to Jorge Posada. I wouldn't put too much stock in pitchers saying they like throwing to someone anyways, when's the last time you heard a Yankees pitcher say they didn't like throwing to someone?[/quote']

 

You have to look at his entire body of work this season. You could even make the case that April is more indicative of what kind of player he is because it's when he was healthy ... which he apparently is again, so we'll see what he does going forward.

 

And it's not just game calling. It's the way he works with his pitchers between their starts and leading up to each start. Many catchers, including Posada, had the reputation for caring more about their offense than working with the pitching staff. I'm not claiming I can prove this, but I think the idea that Martin's contributions in that area are valuable has potential legitimacy.

[jacksonianmarch]

3-0 to start the game is the good part. Nunez airmailing 1st isnt the good thing, but Reyes was beating that out anyway

[Thunder]

Can't expect the Yankees to lose to the Mets.

[boston22407]

Go Mets!

[Thunder]

They're playing in Queens, right?

[BornToRun]

They're playing in Queens' date=' right?[/quote']

 

Yep, and hopefully the non-Nazi affiliated New York team wins this series.

[jacksonianmarch]

This should be Nova's last batter. After looking good over his past few starts, he cannot get the sinker down. He's lucky we arent chasing 4 or 5 runs right now

[jacksonianmarch]

I hate on Girardi all the time, but this is a solid move from him. Nova had been struggling, got through last inning, has the sacks packed and pinch hits for the kid. Cmon Posada!

[a700hitter]

I hate on Girardi all the time' date=' but this is a solid move from him. Nova had been struggling, got through last inning, has the sacks packed and pinch hits for the kid. Cmon Posada![/quote']Tito would be sitting with his thumb up his ass.

[jacksonianmarch]

It was the right move, but it didnt work out

[a700hitter]

It was the right move' date=' but it didnt work out[/quote']It was the right move, but Posada should not have been standing there looking at a third strike.