2011 Yankee Gamethread

[jacksonianmarch]

This reminds me of Wang circa 2009 when he had absolutely nothing, then we found out he needed shoulder surgery

[yankees228]

This reminds me of Wang circa 2009 when he had absolutely nothing' date=' then we found out he needed shoulder surgery[/quote']

 

The velocity is only part of the problem. Just like last year, for some reason, you don't want to acknowledge his other issues. He has no other pitches. The curve is terrible. He has no way to finish hitters.

[Meh]

To the guy who yelled Hughes you suck when he was walking into the dugout, you are correct sir.

[jacksonianmarch]

His curve is fine when it is used as a true secondary pitch. The problem is, his FB needs to be crisp, sharp, and located. He cannot locate, period. I dont care about his velocity. He's missing down the f***ing middle again, and he's throwing 89-90mph again. I can hit that and I havent played baseball in 8 yrs.

[ORS]

The velocity is only part of the problem. Just like last year' date=' for some reason, you don't want to acknowledge his other issues. He has no other pitches. The curve is terrible. He has no way to finish hitters.[/quote']

No way, dude. His secondary pitches are double-secret-probation-plus pitches. The scouting report says so.

[yankees228]

His curve is fine when it is used as a true secondary pitch. The problem is' date=' his FB needs to be crisp, sharp, and located. He cannot locate, period. I dont care about his velocity. He's missing down the f***ing middle again, and he's throwing 89-90mph again. I can hit that and I havent played baseball in 8 yrs.[/quote']

 

Phil Hughes' CB in 2010

 

FanGraph's Pitch Values: -5.9

5.8% of his CBs resulted in swings and misses ... the MLB average was 11.63%

 

His CB sucks.

[jacksonianmarch]

No way' date=' dude. His secondary pitches are double-secret-probation-plus pitches. The scouting report says so.[/quote']

 

Bait much?

 

A pitcher should be able to go off their fastball with their breaking pitches. The problem is, his curve isnt good enough to stand alone. He needs the velo difference, he needs to have the hitter on their heels with the fastball and have them jumping out on the curve. Right now, there is no fear of the heat, so there is no use for the curve. He's dead meat right now.

[yankees228]

And those numbers came from last year, with the velocity difference.

[jacksonianmarch]

Didnt see those numbers. Regardless, as is, if he cannot locate the heat, he's dead. And he cannot. He needs some AAA time

[yankees228]

Sure. It's just that, when people talk about Hughes now, they pin it all on the velocity. That's only part of the issue. Even if he corrects that, it's going to be hard for him to be better than a league average pitcher with the secondary stuff as is.

[Meh]

Ugh I feel sick to my stomach

[jacksonianmarch]

Colon for the rotation. Hughes for AAA

[yankees228]

I'd be really impressed with Bart if he pitches well this inning.

[Meh]

Wow, how unlucky can you be in this game?

[yankees228]

Wow have to get in front of that ball.

[yankees228]

Bart catching much more of the plate than in the previous two innings.

 

EDIT: Yup, never thought he would get out of that inning unscathed. Should be Robertson right now.

[yankees228]

Got out of it. Should be the last inning for Bart, but I'm guessing it won't be.

[Meh]

Always likes Aceves. I can see him giving us the middle finger here.

[jacksonianmarch]

Jeter is such a bad #2 hitter

[yankees228]

He's gonna play, fine. But he has to hit 8th or 9th.

[yankees228]

Damn Bart, where was that pitch to Salty last inning?

[yankees228]

Girardi is such an idiot sometimes. Robertson has a much better chance to get Ortiz out than Boone Logan does. Boone Logan sucks.

[jacksonianmarch]

Boone Logan is on the short list of DFAs. He looks absolutely awful

[yankees228]

So much bad there. Logan being in the game in the first place. Pitch selection. Just awful.

[yankees228]

Boone Logan is on the short list of DFAs. He looks absolutely awful

 

Jeter on there also?

[jacksonianmarch]

Feliciano needs to get healthy ASAP.

[jacksonianmarch]

Oh well, it is early and I was expecting to lose this game. Hughes isnt right, he has to go to AAA or on the DL. He is absolutely useless right now. Colon needs to move into the rotation. Logan needs to get DFA'd. I wouldnt mind seeing a guy like Garrison get a chance as a lefty specialist, cant be worse than Logan

[a700hitter]

Feliciano needs to get healthy ASAP.

When did Feliciano get injured and what kind of injury does he have? I don't remember reading about it.

[jacksonianmarch]

He has tricep tendonitis. He should be back by the end of April

[Meh]

Feliciano needs to get healthy ASAP.

 

Boonie Logan needs to GTFO ASAP