who do you think is on pace for a HOF career?

[Sox]

homegrown, I'd say Lester & Pedroia, if Lester keeps improving, or performs at the same level, he could get into the 3,000 Ks club which is a lock for HOF, he could get around 260 wins, or if he ages well, he could even win 300, career ERA might be around 3.2-3.4

 

Pedroia could get into the 3,000 hits club, but his value is more than just that, he's an elite run producer, his career total might hover around 2,000 (which is a pretty rare feat), he could steal around 250 SBs, collect 200-300 homeruns, his BB totals could be between 1,600-1,800, career average around .310, & career OBP around .370, I think of all the Red Sox roster, Pedroia has the highest chance of making it to the HOF.

 

with the acquired players, both have a chance of making it to the HOF, if Crawford performs his career norms throughout the rest of his contract, he's a lock for HOF, if Gonzalez could hit 500 homeruns, he would be a lock as well.

 

Ortiz is a tough case, but I don't think he'd make it, unless he produces at the same level he did last year for 5 more seasons, which is unlikely, but possible, not to mention the PED scandal.

 

if Varitek pursues a coaching career, & then develop into a good manager, he might get in, but with his career numbers as of now, he's not gonna make it.

 

 

thoughts?

[Dojji]

Dunno yet. Most of what separates a hall of famer from a standard garden variety good player happens after they turn 35. Lester's got a shot, but he needs to stick around and stay healthy.

 

Ortiz doesn't have a chance. Nice peak but it was too short to put up the "countin' stats." He's basically your quintessential "good player with a few great seasons." Carlos Delgado gets in ahead of him easy.

 

I'd say same for Tek. He was a very good catcher and there were a few years where he was a great catcher, but he wasn't a Hall of Fame catcher. As much as it scalds my soul to say it, Jorge Posada gets in well ahead of Tek.

 

Our biggest potential surprise Hall contender at the moment is probably Youkilis, but he'll need to play well into his early 40's at a high level to get there.

[Emmz]

homegrown, I'd say Lester & Pedroia, if Lester keeps improving, or performs at the same level, he could get into the 3,000 Ks club which is a lock for HOF, he could get around 260 wins, or if he ages well, he could even win 300, career ERA might be around 3.2-3.4

 

Pedroia could get into the 3,000 hits club, but his value is more than just that, he's an elite run producer, his career total might hover around 2,000 (which is a pretty rare feat), he could steal around 250 SBs, collect 200-300 homeruns, his BB totals could be between 1,600-1,800, career average around .310, & career OBP around .370, I think of all the Red Sox roster, Pedroia has the highest chance of making it to the HOF.

 

with the acquired players, both have a chance of making it to the HOF, if Crawford performs his career norms throughout the rest of his contract, he's a lock for HOF, if Gonzalez could hit 500 homeruns, he would be a lock as well.

 

Ortiz is a tough case, but I don't think he'd make it, unless he produces at the same level he did last year for 5 more seasons, which is unlikely, but possible, not to mention the PED scandal.

 

if Varitek pursues a coaching career, & then develop into a good manager, he might get in, but with his career numbers as of now, he's not gonna make it.

 

 

thoughts?

 

Way too early. You could say a pretty huge part of the roster gets into the hall of fame if they keep their pace.

[Palodios]

Hardware tends to help out candidates. Pedroia has the most so far, and its early into his career.

[Sox]

Dunno yet. Most of what separates a hall of famer from a standard garden variety good player happens after they turn 35. Lester's got a shot, but he needs to stick around and stay healthy.

 

Ortiz doesn't have a chance. Nice peak but it was too short to put up the "countin' stats." He's basically your quintessential "good player with a few great seasons." Carlos Delgado gets in ahead of him easy.

 

I'd say same for Tek. He was a very good catcher and there were a few years where he was a great catcher, but he wasn't a Hall of Fame catcher. As much as it scalds my soul to say it, Jorge Posada gets in well ahead of Tek.

 

Our biggest potential surprise Hall contender at the moment is probably Youkilis, but he'll need to play well into his early 40's at a high level to get there.

 

yeah, that's why I said Lester needs to improve or stay at his current level long enough to get 3,000 Ks.

as for Ortiz, you kinda agreed with me, as I said he won't make it unless he hits 32 homeruns for the next 5 years, which is highly unlikely.

Tek won't get in as a player, but he has very good leadership skills, & can handle pitching staff very well, & if he translates into a good pitching coach & manager, his Major League career + coaching career could get him in, but he won't get in based soley on his major league career.

 

as for Youk, he had a late start in his career, if he ages well, then why not? I still say Pedroia has the highest chance of being a HOFer, he's way too young & already accomplished a lot, I read an article prior to last year that compared Dustin Pedroia's first three seasons to Pete Rose, & Pedroia was actually better, not that Dustin would have a career like Pete Rose, but its very promising to be compared to a player like Pete Rose.

[Palodios]

Catching depth is weak in the majors, but I really don't see Varitek getting in before Pudge, Mauer, McCann, Posada etc. Unless he catches two more no-hitters, I don't see it happening.

[Dojji]

Hardware tends to help out candidates. Pedroia has the most so far' date=' and its early into his career.[/quote']

 

Pedroia is your stereotypical "early peak, long slow decline" type. We like to gloss it over because we love the guy, but he's already been injured several times and hasn't repeated his 2008 MVP caliber performance. I'm not sure he has the staying power with his body type to get into the Hall.

[Palodios]

Pedroia's life hit into a brickwall in 2009, with his brother's garbage, and a lot of other personal issues. s*** happens. He lost his 2010 from getting hit in the foot with a ball, not because he's injury prone.

[Sox]

Catching depth is weak in the majors' date=' but I really don't see Varitek getting in before Pudge, Mauer, McCann, Posada etc. Unless he catches two more no-hitters, I don't see it happening.[/quote']

 

yeah, he won't get in based soley on his Major League career, I think he has a chance of getting based soley on that just as much as the Pirates have a chance of winning the world series next year, actually the Pirates have a higher chance of winning the world series.

 

Pedroia is your stereotypical "early peak, long slow decline" type. We like to gloss it over because we love the guy, but he's already been injured several times and hasn't repeated his 2008 MVP caliber performance. I'm not sure he has the staying power with his body type to get into the Hall.

 

he suffered a freak injury, when he was injured last year, he had a higher WAR than Cano at the time, & it was a career year for Cano, he was on pace for a 7 WAR season, a mix of his rookie year & MVP year is enough to get him 3,000 hits, 200 HRs, 1,800 runs, 200 steals, & 1,800 BB, he also has one of the highest BB:K ratio in the league, he's almost impossible to strikeout, he has a pretty good chance of making it, unless he really does decline, which he showed no sign of last year.

yeah maybe we're wearing Red Sox goggles, but I don't think its impossible for him to reach the career marks I mentioned earlier, in fact, if he just continues to play his career norms, nothing like his MVP season, he still has a very high chance of reaching those milestones.

 

EDIT: his 3.3 WAR in 75 games last season was better than 80% of the Major leaguers that had a full season.

[Emmz]

Pedroia is your stereotypical "early peak' date=' long slow decline" type. We like to gloss it over because we love the guy, but he's already been injured several times and hasn't repeated his 2008 MVP caliber performance. I'm not sure he has the staying power with his body type to get into the Hall.[/quote']

 

Tell me more, Nostradojji.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Pedroia is your stereotypical "early peak' date=' long slow decline" type. We like to gloss it over because we love the guy, but he's already been injured several times and hasn't repeated his 2008 MVP caliber performance. I'm not sure he has the staying power with his body type to get into the Hall.[/quote']

 

You do realize that last year he had a career high in OPS+ prior to getting injured and was on track to hit 50 doubles, 25 HR, 85 RBI's, 20 SB, and about 75-80 BB?

 

I wouldn't consider that a decline.

[italstallianion]

Brian Scalabrine. Oh wait, we were talking about baseball?

[Palodios]

When Scal retires, instead of picking 12 people to go into the hall of fame, they'll devote the entire ceremony to him.

[italstallianion]

They should name the city of Boston after him. Or at least name a college after him.

[bsox0407]

They should name the city of Boston after him. Or at least name a college after him.

 

f*** the TD Banknorth Garden. Scally's House should be the name. haha. With a huge picture of his face with the Head band on the floor by the hoops. ahah

[italstallianion]

Who wouldn't want to transfer to the University of Scalabrine?

[bsox0407]

Who wouldn't want to transfer to the University of Scalabrine?

 

I know i Would. The art of Being an Awesome Ginger would be my major.

[Palodios]

I wonder if I could get into their graduate program...

[italstallianion]

I think that I may be too dark to be allowed in. Whereas Bsox can get in on scholarship.

[bsox0407]

I think that I may be too dark to be allowed in. Whereas Bsox can get in on scholarship.

 

Automatic Retiring of my number. lol.

[Will617]

There are a lot of people in the MLB that could be on pace for a HoF career. It's not really about how good you were when you were at your best, but about how well you can do late in your career.

Of the current Sox players, I do think that Lester and Pedroia have the best chances of getting in. I doubt Ortiz will come close, he has the taint of using PEDs and hasn't had an overall career good enough to be a HoFer. If Papelbon manages to return to the pitcher he was 2-3 years ago, I think he has a shot.

[Divinity]

I'll change it up and name some non-Sox, Mariano Rivera, Derek Jeter , Alex Rodriguez, possibly CC Sabathia and Robinson Cano (too early to tell)

[Sox]

I'll change it up and name some non-Sox' date=' Mariano Rivera, Derek Jeter , Alex Rodriguez, possibly CC Sabathia and Robinson Cano (too early to tell)[/quote']

 

three of those are already a lock (maybe two, depends on how the writers look at PED users), we're talking about on-pace, Cano & Sabathia are good examples, if CC Sabathia can snap out of it & stop the downward decline, he has a shot.

[mvp 78]

Reddick. He just mashes. Did you see that shot he hit the other day? Wow...

[Youk Of The Nation]

Yeah, Reddick is a certainty. They'll probably induct him along with Daniel Nava and Darnell McDonald.

[bsox0407]

Yeah' date=' Reddick is a certainty. They'll probably induct him along with Daniel Nava and Darnell McDonald.[/quote']

 

What about moonlight Graham.

[Youk Of The Nation]

In all honesty, I agree with most of the people on the first page. Waaaay too early to even try predicting HOF inductions. The only one I would consider is Ortiz, and that's only for the Competitive Eating HOF.

[Sox]

well, I said "on pace", as in if that player continues the same performance (or better) for the next decade or so.

[SoxSport]

Pedroia is a sure HOFer if he can put together 8 more good years. Youks has a shot if he can do the same. Lester has to win a few Cy Youngs. Still a ways to go. Papi, no. DH and steroids hanging over his head like Manny and ARod. Enough sportswriters will block anyone who has used steroids. Pedro, of course, is a lock. Schilling deserves consideration-figuring big in two world championships with two teams.

Crawford is now a Red Sox, so he figures in. He has the tools to make it playing out his career in Boston. AdGon as well.

[Sox]

^^ Schilling would get in evantually (thanks to joining the 3,000 Ks club)