Who should bat 3rd for the Red Sox in 2011

[redsoxrules]

simple question

 

and please explain you're answer

 

I say Gonzalez as I feel he's going to be their best hitter power wise next year

[Northern Star]

Albert Pujols.

[boston22407]

I voted for Kevin he can work the pitcher and gonzo can hit a hr

[bsox0407]

Either Crawford or Gonzo. I voted Crawford. Gonzo will see more FBs with a speed demon like Crawford on base.

[soxfan74]

Remy just had the possible line-up as

 

Ellsbury

Pedroia

Crawford

Gonzalez

Youkilus

Ortiz

Drew

Saltalamachia

Scutaro

 

Of Course Francona will have something to say about it. Kinda like Pedroia, Crawford, Youk, Gonzo as the top four Myself with Ellsbury batting Ninth. We'll see .

[a700hitter]

I like Pedroia in the lead off spot because of his OBP and then I'd go lefty righty. That makes the 3rd spot a RH spot and Youk is the best RH hitter on the team.

[italstallianion]

I like Pedroia in the lead off spot because of his OBP and then I'd go lefty righty. That makes the 3rd spot a RH spot and Youk is the best RH hitter on the team.

 

 

That's exactly what I did, except for the fact that it makes it harder to prevent multiple lefties in a row towards the bottom of the order, especially if we don't get Russell Martin. Another benefit is that if you do that and put Ellsbury last, when the lineup turns over it'll be like starting the lineup a spot earlier, and you'd be able to give the top players (pedroia, crawford, gonzalez, youkilis) more AB's at 1-4 instead of having them at 2-5.

 

If we get Martin that can make the bottom of the order more right handed and make the lineup balance out.

[a700hitter]

That's exactly what I did, except for the fact that it makes it harder to prevent multiple lefties in a row towards the bottom of the order, especially if we don't get Russell Martin. Another benefit is that if you do that and put Ellsbury last, when the lineup turns over it'll be like starting the lineup a spot earlier, and you'd be able to give the top players (pedroia, crawford, gonzalez, youkilis) more AB's at 1-4 instead of having them at 2-5.

 

If we get Martin that can make the bottom of the order more right handed and make the lineup balance out.

There could be some lefties stacked up at the bottom of the order, but AGon hits lefties pretty darn good because he waits for the ball to get deep in the zone and he drives it the other way. I am a firm believer in stacking the best hitters together at the top of the lineup. I do not believe in putting a lesser hitter in the top of the order to extend the batting order.

[Jasonbay44]

Gonzalez.

 

Id like the lineup to be something like this:

Crawford

Pedroia

Gonzalez

Youk

Ortiz

Drew

Salty

Scutaro/Lowrie

Ellsbury

[italstallianion]

There could be some lefties stacked up at the bottom of the order' date=' but AGon hits lefties pretty darn good because he waits for the ball to get deep in the zone and he drives it the other way. I am a firm believer in stacking the best hitters together at the top of the lineup. I do not believe in putting a lesser hitter in the top of the order to extend the batting order.[/quote']

 

 

I didn't mean Gonzalez, I was referring to Drew, and Ortiz, and then the switch hitters in Salty, Varitek, and Lowrie.

[a700hitter]

I didn't mean Gonzalez' date=' I was referring to Drew, and Ortiz, and then the switch hitters in Salty, Varitek, and Lowrie.[/quote']I realize that. I'm not bothered by the lefties stacked up in the bottom half of the lineup. We will have Scutaro and switch hitting Varitek and Salty to bat righty. I'm just very convinced that it is best to stack the best guys at the top and try to do as much lefty-righty as you can in that grouping.

[italstallianion]

Plus we do have Cameron against lefties and if we get Martin we should be in good shape. Now let's get some relievers!

[a700hitter]

Plus we do have Cameron against lefties and if we get Martin we should be in good shape. Now let's get some relievers!

if we get Martin, there should be no problem about bunching lefties.

[SoxSport]

Is Tito the luckiest manager in Baseball, or what? Imagine having to put a lineup of those guys together?

He likes L-R-L-R..., so Pedroia will bat 2nd. Now Ellsbury or Crawford can lead off, but I understand Crawford doesn't like to lead off. But Ellsbury is coming off an injury year, so maybe he bats 9th, initially.

 

Ideally, I'd like to see the two speedsters at the top of the lineup. Ellsbury-Crawford 1-2 or 1-3. AdGon 3 or 4, then Youks, or Youks-AdGon, then Papi against RHP. Papi on the bench vs LHP.

 

1) Ellsbury--Pedroia--Crawford--Youks-AdGon--Papi

 

2)Crawford--Pedroia-AdGon-Youks-Papi. Ellsbury 9th.

 

2) is the one you'll see initially, unless Crawford balks at leading off.

Crawford had 19 HRs and 90 RBIs last year, a good argument for him to hit lower.

I've read you want Ellsbury and Crawford both at the top of the lineup, to maximize their at bats. Makes sense. Both these guys can steal 60 bases.

That means the Red Sox have to RUN next year.

[Spudboy]

I don't understand the question.

 

Given that it was posted in broken Canadian.

 

My best guess would be J.D. Drew.

[redsoxrules]

I don't understand the question.

 

Given that it was posted in broken Canadian.

 

My best guess would be J.D. Drew.

 

 

GFY

[Keeper]

Youk or Gonzalez. Either one would work. I'd probably have Gonzalez bat cleanup because he has the most power on the team. Crawford bats third in a bad lineup, not in a good lineup.

[Spudboy]

 

GFY

 

:lol:

[EXman369]

It's so great to have a thread about this over half the teams in the MLB would die to have anyone of those players as there number 3 hitter. i Really dont care if its L,L,L (well maybe a little ) i just want to see them in action.

[Mikon]

This is a really difficult question. By the japanese baseball book I would say the one that have the highest chance to contact, so maybe it's... Pedroia (I don't know the statistics of who's the best in this one).

The 4th should be the power hitter, the big bat, so I would choose A-gon.

But, It's kind hard to come up with a solution, as the american style of baseball just hates to do smallball tactics, like bunt or sacrifice...

Me, personally, I would put Ellsbury and Crawford and probably Pedroia and A-gon, in this order. Let the top quickest men of the team in base, put the one with the best contact worry the pitcher even more and as a final act, let the power hitter smash the ball out of the park.

Ellsbury is used to be the leadoff man, we put Crawford in a confortable position so that he can use his full potential, the third man, the contact man, will have an even more easy chance to contact, as the pitcher will probably be afraid of (dozens) stolen bases and the power hitter to destroy the concentration of the pitcher.

[example1]

I voted for Youkilis. Maybe:

 

Ellsbury

Crawford

Youkilis

Gonzalez

Pedroia

Ortiz

Lowrie

Drew

Saltalamacchia

 

That looks like a fun lineup. I would also entertain the idea of Pedroia batting 3rd.

[bsox0407]

I personally Like the lineup of

 

Ells

Pedey

Crawford

Gonzo

Youk

Papi

Drew

Scutaro

Salty.

 

That is without Martin. If martin comes in i might throw him in between Papi and Drew.

[BSN07]

Crawford and Pedroia don't want or like leading off. Crawford is getting 20M a year, so he better be in the middle somewhere,

 

Ellsbury

Pedroia

Agon

Youk

Crawford

Lowrie

Ortiz

Drew

Salty

 

 

Martin could go a long ways to balancing this lineup out.

[jacksonianmarch]

Knowing Tito, there is no way he goes with the above lineup. Stacking 2 lefties twice in the order leaves you vulnerable to situational reliever, something I am expecting the Yankees to have two of (at least) and most teams will have at least one of. My guess at your lineup is as follows

 

1. Crawford LF

2. Pedroia 2B

3. Gonzalez 1B

4. Youkilis 3B

5. Ortiz DH

6. Martin C (I think you guys will get him)

7. Drew RF

8. Scutaro SS

9. Ellsbury CF

 

The only L-L in the lineup will be from 9 to 1.

[jacksonianmarch]

Crawford and Pedroia don't want or like leading off. Crawford is getting 20M a year, so he better be in the middle somewhere,

 

Ellsbury

Pedroia

Agon

Youk

Crawford

Lowrie

Ortiz

Drew

Salty

 

 

Martin could go a long ways to balancing this lineup out.

 

For 20+ mil per year, he'll hit wherever they tell him to.

[Jacobysgirl729]

Gonzalez.

 

Id like the lineup to be something like this:

Crawford

Pedroia

Gonzalez

Youk

Ortiz

Drew

Salty

Scutaro/Lowrie

Ellsbury

 

Pretty much how i see it going down as well

[BSN07]

For 20+ mil per year' date=' he'll hit wherever they tell him to.[/quote']

 

But if he's uncomfortable there, why push it? He's not an OBP master anyways. And it probably be better to put him in some situations for him to slug in. If they have Martin my lineup is,

 

Ellsbury

Pedroia

Agon

Youk

Crawford

Martin

Ortiz

Lowrie or Drew

 

Crawford hit's in the middle of the line up. And He and Martin set the Table for Ortiz. Like I said before, it's like facing two 1-4 lineups in one. Crawford, Martin, Ortiz, Drew, Lowrie is better then most teams 1-5. I think if you set the lineup this way the SP will never get a break. He's going to be facing a top to middle of the order no matter what inning it is.

 

I'm not saying it's a proven theory at any level of baseball. But I took over the team I've been playing for for the last 4 years this season. Our original manager had no imagination and couldn't set a lineup to save his life. We play 25-30 games a season and our yearly runs scored average was 175 during his tenure. I took the same lineup(lost 2 players, gained 2 players of similar skills) we have had and built it like what I have suggested above. This season we won our Class for the 1st time ever and set new high outputs in every offensive category the team had previously had in it's 15 year history at the club. We scored 103 more runs then we did the season previously. I have not actually seen the numbers, but this is what was explained to me by our head of baseball operations at the club. In fact there was such a change in the offense of the team that the old coach actually accused us of dogging it the last couple years Said he wouldn't have believed it was us unless he saw it himself.

 

Not suggesting this would have the same effect anywhere else, but more of the reasoning behind why I think they should build the lineup in the way I have suggested.

[DirtDog]

Pedroia

Crawford

Youkilis

Gonzalez

Ortiz

Salt

Drew

Scutaro

Ellsbury

[Plumpamania]

If anyone needs to see more fastballs it's Ortiz.

 

1. Crawford

2. Pedroia

3. Ortiz

4. Youkilis

5. Gonzalez

6. Drew

7. Salty

8. Scutaro

9. Ellsbury

[BSN07]

If anyone needs to see more fastballs it's Ortiz.

 

Depends on who is throwing them