The "Unofficial Pre- Hot Stove (2010)" thread.

[a700hitter]

Damon was only good thanks to the short porch in RF in Yankee stadium .

He still mainly hit the ballthe other way. He did pretty well with the monster.

[Spudboy]

It is also not "mediocre."

 

He is by far the most generously compensated Sox position player.

 

His current level of production does not justify his pay.

[Divinity]

Its being reported Damon doesn't want to go to Boston, he wanted to go to Tampa but the Sox claimed him to block it

[BoSox21]

Say what you want about how much Damon has declined or whether YS hid his weaknesses but he remains a pretty tough out.

[Spudboy]

You're right' date=' Sox have to make up 6 games in lose column with only 30 something games remaining without the help of Pedroia and Youkilis[/quote']

 

So you see Damon supplanting their production?

[Spudboy]

Say what you want about how much Damon has declined or whether YS hid his weaknesses but he remains a pretty tough out.

 

And a very competitive player that will be well received by the fans at Fenway.

[redsoxrules]

And a very competitive player that will be well received by the fans at Fenway.

 

dirt dog !

[Divinity]

No I was agreeing with you Damon won't be able to replace their production and get them into the playoffs.

[Spudboy]

No I was agreeing with you Damon won't be able to replace their production and get them into the playoffs.

 

Oh.

[BSN07]

I wouldn't mind Damon. But this feel more like a block then anything.

[boston22407]

what would he play lf? cf?

[Dojji]

Definitely LF

[jacksonianmarch]

He's a terrible LFer. He is an even worse CFer

[boston22407]

anything better then what we have now.

[BoSox21]

I want to see it happen if only because it would be a great story.

[Palodios]

I think there is a chance it might happen, simply because it would sell tickets now that the team is on its way downward.

[soxfan74]

That would just be another dumb wasted move. If anyone just watched what Kalish did. Damon can't do that.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

That would just be another dumb wasted move. If anyone just watched what Kalish did. Damon can't do that.

 

Haha that's cold.

[EXman369]

Damon has no arm, and his fielding is horrible i dont see how this helps the team, the sox should leave kalish in the everyday lineup so he can get more major league experience

[Yaz Sideburn]

damon can't be worse than daniel nava defensively

[soxfan74]

Absolutely right Kalish should be playing. Why we pull him against lefties is beyond comprehension. He actually had better numbers against lefties in Pawtucket. Nava should also be playing alott more. I wouldn't trade my bag of Dorito's for Damon right now.

[a700hitter]

Absolutely right Kalish should be playing. Why we pull him against lefties is beyond comprehension. He actually had better numbers against lefties in Pawtucket. Nava should also be playing alott more. I wouldn't trade my bag of Dorito's for Damon right now.

Detroit isn't looking for any big prospect for a month of Damon. The deal is done. It's up to Damon. I hope he comes to Boston. He's a tough out. He'll see a lot of pitches in each AB wearing down the opposing pitcher.

[soxfan74]

Nobody said they where looking for a big prospect. I hope he doesn't. We don't need him. He's a liability defensively.

[WhiskeyBreath]

This seems like a classic case of a waiver wire cock blocking.

[a700hitter]

Nobody said they where looking for a big prospect. I hope he doesn't. We don't need him. He's a liability defensively.

So, with the little bit of a chance that we have, you would rather have Nava in the bottom of the lineup rather than Damon at the top of the order? Not me.

[Palodios]

Johnny Damon is a type B. Too bad he'll make tons more in arbitration than in contract size.

[Yaz Sideburn]

here's an estimate of what our financial situation will look like next year

 

current team salary - $168.1 million

 

salaries coming off the books

david ortiz - $13 million ($12.5 million club option)

mike lowell - $12.5 million

julio lugo - $9.25 million

adrian beltre - $9 million

victor martinez - $7.7 million

jeremy hermida - $3.3 million

jason varitek - $3 million

billy wagner - $1 million

boof bonser - $.65 million

alex gonzalez - $.5 million

total - $50.9 million

 

salary pay decreases

lackey - $2.75 million

wakefield - $2 million

total - $4.75 million

 

salary pay increases

beckett - $4.9 million

youkilis - $2.9 million

matsuzaka - $2 million

lester - $2 million

pedroia - $2 million

total - 13.8 million

 

arbitration estimates

papelbon - $11.5 million ($2.2 million increase)

ellsbury - $2.5 million ($2 million increase)

 

contract buyouts

beltre - $1 million

hall - $.5 million

total - $1.5 million

 

non-tenders

okajima - $2.8 million salary decrease

delcarmen - $.9 million

total - $3.7 million

 

estimated freed up salary - $47.35 million. if the red sox exercise the option on ortiz and trade papelbon, their roster would look like the following with $46.35 million to spend

 

starters

c -

1b - kevin youkilis

2b - dustin pedroia

ss - marco sctuaro

3b -

lf - mike cameron

cf - jacoby ellsbury

rf - jd drew

dh - david ortiz

 

bench

c - jarrod saltalamacchia

if - jed lowrie

if -

of - kalish

 

starters

jon lester

josh beckett

clay buchholz

john lackey

daisuke matsuzaka

 

bullpen

cl - daniel bard

su -

su -

mr - scott atchison

mr - felix doubront

mr - michael bowden

mr - tim wakefield

[EXman369]

You think ellsbury will get that much in arb even with the season he had this year?

[a700hitter]

You think ellsbury will get that much in arb even with the season he had this year?

I thought it was kind of high. Nice deal getting a raise like that for doing nothing.

[Palodios]

Yaz-- good to finally see all those numbers in the same place. It is a little different than my numbers though --did you miss Beltre's cash coming off? Still, a very helpful reference for hot stove discussion.