Trading for Iannetta!?

[rujo554]

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Once again the Sox are overly zealous in the pursuit of catching depth. Yes, Varitek is on his last stretch, and V-Mart is momentarily injured, but no matter who is replacing them, the offensive drop off will be horrific. I think there's no more value in forcing a veteran reserve catcher to start than in giving a homegrown catching prospect a chance. And yes, I know we don't have many of those, but surely we could trade for some for a cheaper price than Iannetta.

This is not to take away from Iannetta, he's proven to be a very clutch, substantial hitter -- for a catcher. His OPS is still very impressive, but his number of plate appearances are not. Please, Theo, you're willing to give guys like Nava and Darnell a chance before trading the house for temporary OF replacements, please try to be as patient when it comes to the catcher position.

[rujo554]

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hint-hint

[jacksonianmarch]

sounds like a wise plan. Take a guy from low A and promote him directly to the bigs. Not only do you start his clock early, you also potentially f*** his progression up

[rujo554]

I didn't mean he's a current solution, I meant to show that catching prospects are often cheap and surprising, and those with hype and thus a large pricetag often under-perform. I would be just as confident with a triple a catcher's prospectives in two years as I would be with Kevin Cash's. So why trade anybody to get an unproven catcher when you currently have two proven, yet banged up ones?

[jacksonianmarch]

Prospects by definition are cheap. There arent too many true blue chip catching prospects in the game and those with hype typically play pretty well. Wieters is the only one who has been off and on. Posey has been great, Mauer before him, McCann, etc.

[example1]

Prospects by definition are cheap. There arent too many true blue chip catching prospects in the game and those with hype typically play pretty well. Wieters is the only one who has been off and on. Posey has been great' date=' Mauer before him, McCann, etc.[/quote']

 

Saltalamacchia hasn't played very well.

[BSN07]

I wouldn't mind them getting Iannetta at some point. V-Mart is not coming back as the everyday Catcher. Tek is not an everyday guy anymore. And the biggest upside catching prospect, Ibarra, is realistically not going to be ready by 2011 to take over full time.

[jacksonianmarch]

I wouldn't mind them getting Iannetta at some point. V-Mart is not coming back as the everyday Catcher. Tek is not an everyday guy anymore. And the biggest upside catching prospect' date=' Ibarra, is realistically not going to be ready by 2011 to take over full time.[/quote']

 

and he hasnt taken a swing in anger as a red sox farm hand. He sounds legit, but lets see how he hits in the minors before we call him your #1 catching prospect

[Dojji]

Prospects by definition are cheap. There arent too many true blue chip catching prospects in the game and those with hype typically play pretty well. Wieters is the only one who has been off and on. Posey has been great' date=' Mauer before him, McCann, etc.[/quote']

 

Saltalamacchia? Clement? Teagarden? Lot of high-profile busts and "works in progress" at catcher.

[BSN07]

and he hasnt taken a swing in anger as a red sox farm hand. He sounds legit' date=' but lets see how he hits in the minors before we call him your #1 catching prospect[/quote']

 

I didn't say he was #1 Catching prospect. I said the highest upside. Which I believe is a fair assessment given the current crop of Red Sox catching prospects.

[WhiskeyBreath]

 

Crap. I would have loved to see Lowrie go for Ianetta.

[ORS]

Saltalamacchia? Clement? Teagarden? Lot of high-profile busts and "works in progress" at catcher.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that hypothesis is strongly influenced by a combination of Montero's hype and Jacko's insatiable need to make himself feel good about the Yankee prospects. Reality made an exit stage left with him long ago.

[Spudboy]

 

Crap. I would have loved to see Lowrie go for Ianetta.

 

Not me. Admittedly, I know nothing about Ianetta. But I still have faith that Lowrie will be productive. By the way, I just read elsewhere that he's on his way to Oakland.

[mvp 78]

I'd be only interested if it was the 08 Iannetta. He can play a little 3b too, but I just don't think he's worth giving up much for.

 

However, Lowrie is nothing more than a 25th man on a roster.

[WhiskeyBreath]

If they activate him I would expect Patterson to be DFA.

[jacksonianmarch]

I didn't say he was #1 Catching prospect. I said the highest upside. Which I believe is a fair assessment given the current crop of Red Sox catching prospects.

 

I'd argue that Lavarnaway is your highest upside catcher, mostly due to what he brings to the offensive side of the dish. His problem is defense as we all know

[Spudboy]

If they activate him I would expect Patterson to be DFA.

 

What about Shealey?

[WhiskeyBreath]

What about Shealey?

 

Maybe it's him, I don't know. Figured Shealy would get DFA when Lowell made it back. :dunno:

[jacksonianmarch]

Shealy is the righty stick off the bench right now. I agree, I think he might stick until Lowell comes back

[Palodios]

I'd argue that Lavarnaway is your highest upside catcher' date=' mostly due to what he brings to the offensive side of the dish. His problem is defense as we all know[/quote']

 

When was the last time this organization cared about defense at C?

[jacksonianmarch]

Touche

[Meh]

Shealy is the righty stick off the bench right now. I agree' date=' I think he might stick until Lowell comes back[/quote']

 

Shealy was in fact DFA

[Space Man]

Jed was a serious prospect, and did really well for us when he first came up. The guy had a bad wrist...hard to play through, and Mono.

 

I think Jed could really be the answer at SS if he can come back. Ianetta is not the answer at C.

[TheMino007]

What answer? We have Scutaro for 2 years after this and then Iglesias down the line. Catchers take a while to develope so I'd take Iannetta over Jed

[Space Man]

Scutaro is not a young man, and if Lowrie, who played well when healthy, can produce anywhere near what he was projected to, he would be the SS. I like Scoots, but Lowrie would be a better option, if healthy.

 

I agree Iglesias looks like the future, but I wouldn't bet the farm on him just yet. Besides, I don't consider having two MLB-capable SS to be a liability.

[26 to 6]

I'd bet dollars to donuts that hypothesis is strongly influenced by a combination of Montero's hype and Jacko's insatiable need to make himself feel good about the Yankee prospects. Reality made an exit stage left with him long ago.

Take your dollars, get some doughnuts, and eat them fatty! Idk why you think you're better than everyone, but you just make yourself look like an *******. Which I'm sure isn't too far off anyway.

[TheMino007]

Scutaro is not a young man, and if Lowrie, who played well when healthy, can produce anywhere near what he was projected to, he would be the SS. I like Scoots, but Lowrie would be a better option, if healthy.

 

I agree Iglesias looks like the future, but I wouldn't bet the farm on him just yet. Besides, I don't consider having two MLB-capable SS to be a liability.

 

Lowrie isn't major league capable.... the guy is never healthy and you can't rely on him

[Palodios]

Lowrie isn't major league capable.... the guy is never healthy and you can't rely on him

 

He's a cheap backup middle infielder. As long as it doesn't break his legs before Pedroia gets back, he's the best they've got for 2B.

[jacksonianmarch]

I'd bet dollars to donuts that hypothesis is strongly influenced by a combination of Montero's hype and Jacko's insatiable need to make himself feel good about the Yankee prospects. Reality made an exit stage left with him long ago.

 

I find it kinda funny that the Yankees were on the cusp of getting a Cy Young winner in Lee with just prospects and now seem to be getting perennial Cy Young contender with a reliever and prospects. Yet, I am the one who isnt living in reality?

[ORS]

How, exactly, is that a retort to what I said?