Yankee deadline rumors

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Its fine if he doesn't' date=' Papelbon has been pretty vocal about his desire to test the free agent market and is pretty adamant about being paid like a top-notch closer should, something I’m not sure the Red Sox are prepared to accommodate [/quote']

I personally wouldn't pay Papelbon the five dollars in front of me to pitch for my team, so I'd be surprised if Theo wasn't in on Soria given Papelbon's desire to test the market. I think he'd be a really good fit in the Boston pen to be honest (not to say I don't think he'd fit well in pinstripes either; just sayin ).

[Yaz Sideburn]

Joba is a horrible example. After coming back from a shoulder injury' date=' he never showed the kind of velocity he came up with.[/quote']

 

the shoulder injury was what, 2 years go? that's a cop out

[Yaz Sideburn]

having the yankees on his no trade doesn't mean it's impossible for soria to be dealt to the royals. but given that the royals aren't interested in the yankees current offer and the fact that the yankees would probably have to sweeten it even more to get soria to waive his no trade, it doesn't seem likely that a deal will be made

[WhiskeyBreath]

I think he'll pitch the 6th inning in New York if we paid him enough. To me when I read that the Yanks were on his no-trade list I just thought that gave him leverage in salary negotiations in upcoming years as he is still under team control. I don't think the Yanks would have even made an offer beyond the preliminary discussions if they felt that Soria had no desire to pitch here based on his no-trade clause.

 

But hey, I could be wrong. It doesn't look like either team is active on the Soria front right now, so I'm not expecting us to strike a deal in the least, although I haven't put it outside the realm of possibility.

 

I agree.

 

I just find it hard to see him accept a trade to the NYY as a set-up man and not require them to restructure his contract in someway.

[Palodios]

I personally wouldn't pay Papelbon the five dollars in front of me to pitch for my team' date=' so I'd be surprised if Theo wasn't in on Soria given Papelbon's desire to test the market. I think he'd be a really good fit in the Boston pen to be honest (not to say I don't think he'd fit well in pinstripes either; just sayin ).[/quote']

 

If NYY was on his no trade list because of Rivera, wouldn't Boston also be because of Papelbon?

[BSN07]

If NYY was on his no trade list because of Rivera' date=' wouldn't Boston also be because of Papelbon?[/quote']

 

One would think so.

[jacksonianmarch]

It's been kinda quiet on the Yankee front, which means something is gonna happen shortly. My guess is the Yankees might actually go out and get a bat. With Robertson and Mo turning into a solid 1-2 punch at the end of the pen and with the likelihood that Hughes will be out there as well come playoff time, the Yanks might hold out on the pen market. Mostly because the Jays are asking for the moon for Downs, and some of the teams with the better pens are still in it (namely SD). Girardi has been using the DH spot as a resting spot for some aging sluggers, but come playoff time, having Cervelli or Thames or whomever in that spot essentially creates an easy out.

 

My guess is that the Yankees might focus on a guy like Lance Berkman. He's having an off yr for him, but the OPS is near .800 and his OBP is in the .360 range. His power is just starting to come back as well, and in NY, that RF porch could help him some. It's the classic Yankee move. Going out and getting an aging slugger at the end of the yr to help the offense, like we did in 96 with Fielder and 2000 with Justice. And the price would be pretty minimal. Berkman is still owed $6.5 mil for the rest of the yr and has a $2 million buyout at the end of the season. My guess is that Houston wouldnt as for too much

[Yaz Sideburn]

the blue jays have reportedly asked for jesus montero for scott downs. they asked the red sox for casey kelly or iglesias

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If NYY was on his no trade list because of Rivera' date=' wouldn't Boston also be because of Papelbon?[/quote']

Yeah but there's no certainty as to who is on his no-trade list or why. Can't really speculate. I assume Soria might be aware of the fact that Papelbon might be Papelgone after this season. Who knows though..

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the blue jays have reportedly asked for jesus montero for scott downs. they asked the red sox for casey kelly or iglesias

They've got some pretty ridiculous demands...

[Keeper]

the blue jays have reportedly asked for jesus montero for scott downs. they asked the red sox for casey kelly or iglesias

 

Wow, that's overreaching just a tad for a 34-year old RP.

[BSN07]

Yeah but there's no certainty as to who is on his no-trade list or why. Can't really speculate. I assume Soria might be aware of the fact that Papelbon might be Papelgone after this season. Who knows though..

 

Soria can also block deals to the Red Sox, Tigers, Phillies, Cardinals or Cubs, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.

[Yaz Sideburn]

They've got some pretty ridiculous demands...

 

they must think there's some kind of screwy exchange rate when you trade players across the border

[jacksonianmarch]

I have a feeling the Yankees are gonna get Berkman. The Yankees have been quiet ever since they missed out on Lee and Haren. But a Berkman trade is exactly the kind of move the Yankees would make. Get an aging slugger who still has something to prove for a stretch run and then let him walk off into the sunset as a free agent. If they dont get him, then I see them promoting Montero in mid August. The rotating DH is great for a team with old guys when we want to rest them, but it is gonna suck hard when the playoffs come around and Thames is our DH against lefties and Miranda is our DH vs righties. Gonna need to fix that hole

 

Also wouldnt be surprised if the Yankees get in on Westbrook. He was really good against our lineup last week and I am not sure the Yankee brass is sold on Moseley. I also think that the almost moves for Haren and Lee were just as much about strengthening the rotation as they were about moving Hughes back to the pen. Both guys have significant contracts for 2010 to move and would likely cost almost nothing in terms of prospect load. And they are both FAs at the end of the yr.

[yankees228]

 

This would remind me a bit of the Justice trade.

[Meh]

I wanted Berkman so much in June and early July, but now all the Dunn talk made me want to trade for him more haha

[yankees228]

This is also interesting (I'm just stealing these couple links from MLBTR)...

 

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/2129597/gammons-sox-wont-add-bat

[redsoxrules]

Dammit , I'd like them to go after Werth , since Cameron and Ellsbury arent healthy

the lineup would be deadly with Werth

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The deal is done and Berkman has approved it, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post. The Yankees have to wait 24 hours before the deal is officially complete because of Berkman's ten and five rights.

 

Nice call Jacko :thumbsup:

[jacksonianmarch]

Nice call Jacko :thumbsup:

 

Thank you, thank you.

 

Just made too much sense. Financially strapped organization, great hitter in his twilight and probably one last chance to be a significant piece on a world champion.

[Meh]

I guess the Yankees are suppose to make a big splash tomorrow, not sure maybe they go hard fter Soria again? Also they are said to be looking around at RP and bench options of course.

[jacksonianmarch]

I truly think that Jake Westbrook will be the next guy to suit up in NY. Hughes will be in the 130-140IP range when Pettitte returns and will probably be ready to move to the pen. Westbrook will be cheap since he's owed so much and the Yanks will have the chance to absorb his salary

[yankees228]

I guess the Yankees are suppose to make a big splash tomorrow' date=' not sure maybe they go hard fter Soria again? Also they are said to be looking around at RP and bench options of course.[/quote']

 

What is the source that says they're supposed to make a big splash tomorrow? I've heard some things that say the Yankees aren't done, but nothing like that.

[yankees228]

 

This doesn't make sense to me. I guess they want him to platoon with Berkman, but that is something Thames can do.

[jacksonianmarch]

Kearns plays better defense than Thames

[jacksonianmarch]

And Kearns actually is hitting righties better this yr

[yankees228]

Kearns plays better defense than Thames

 

But he's not as good a hitter, and that's their primary need (considering it's the DH spot they're trying to fill).

 

EDIT: Just saw your last post. Didn't know that.

[jacksonianmarch]

Actually, I guarantee you this has nothing to do with Berkman. Having Kearns allows the Yankees to use him in LF vs a lefty and move Gardner to CF to spell Granderson, who has sucked it hard vs lefties over the past 2 seasons

[yankees228]

Actually' date=' I guarantee you this has nothing to do with Berkman. Having Kearns allows the Yankees to use him in LF vs a lefty and move Gardner to CF to spell Granderson, who has sucked it hard vs lefties over the past 2 seasons[/quote']

 

Hmm, very good point. This I would be in favor of.

[jacksonianmarch]

So, vs lefties....

 

1. Jeter SS

2. Berkman DH

3. Teixeira 1B

4. Rodriguez 3B

5. Cano 2B

6. Swisher RF

7. Posada C

8. Kearns LF

9. Gardner CF

 

R-S-S-R-L-S-S-R-L ridiculous