Red Sox injury updates

[Dojji]

I don't think "ignoring the problem" is fair. "hoping to ride it out" is probably more accurate.

 

I mean, who could really predict Brown, Wagner AND one Tek and V-Mart all being out at the same time? I mean, stuff happens but that's pretty much a doomsday scenario.

 

I really wish we hadn't lost Kottaras. Why o why did we re-sign Varitek??

 

Sigh. OK. Probably Molina then. We really need some guys to get healthy.

[Palodios]

I don't think "ignoring the problem" is fair. "hoping to ride it out" is probably more accurate.

 

 

Well, the team knew two or three seasons ago that they were going to need a catcher to replace Varitek. Vmart has been a very good offensive solution, but the amount of time this team has gone without actually acquiring/developing a young catcher is worrisome.

[bsox0407]

V-mart may not even need to hit the DL. SO if you put Tek at catcher for a few days while V-mart heals the sox should be fine. The fractured thumb is gonna be a problem mostly for hitting,

[Keeper]

JFC, this is like the perfect storm of injuries.

[TheMino007]

Even if V-Mart doesn't go on the DL, that thumb injury is going to be nagging him when he hits, and if he can't hit, then what the point in having V-Mart? Also I heard Pedrioa will be out 4-6 weeks, and Beckett could be rehabbing in a week

[alphilip77]

If we can somehow remain competitive through all these injuries, I will be very impressed.

[Spudboy]

Expo time.

[SoxSport]

The injuries are mounting for this club. Pedroia and VMart were bad luck. But the earlier ones to Ellsbury, Cameron and Beckett make you wonder about the conditioning in Spring Training. This is a slow starting team, and that's often a sign of inadequate conditioning. With Ellsbury changing positions and a new 3rd baseman, you'd think they'd have worked a bit to get on the same page with popups. In my view, Beckett has no excuse for such a poor start for the money they are paying him. Drew? Well, his infirmities are well established. Cameron? looks like he was damaged goods when they signed him. They are lucky they came up with MacDonald and Nava, and Papi got hot.

 

Tito has a reputation as a players manager. That can work for you and against you. There has been some talk that losing his main bench coach might have hurt their pre-season preparations.

 

Pedroia's injury exposes their lack of a real backup at SS and 2B. I don't see Hall as a proper replacement at 2B. All these injuries expose their weak bench, particularly at the middle infield positions and the outfield. Time for Epstein to get a suitable replacement for Pedroia.

[jacksonianmarch]

Minor hamstring tear for Buchholz. He is probably going to miss his next start, although Buchholz says he can pitch

[Palodios]

 

Pedroia's injury exposes their lack of a real backup at SS and 2B. I don't see Hall as a proper replacement at 2B. All these injuries expose their weak bench, particularly at the middle infield positions and the outfield. Time for Epstein to get a suitable replacement for Pedroia.

 

Its not a matter of a weak bench, more about having so many injuries that their fourth string guys play significant time. how could they have known that Lowrie would be hurt for 2 full years, and Ellsbury would be sipping fruity drinks in Cancun?

[Dojji]

Pedroia's injury exposes their lack of a real backup at SS and 2B. I don't see Hall as a proper replacement at 2B. All these injuries expose their weak bench, particularly at the middle infield positions and the outfield. Time for Epstein to get a suitable replacement for Pedroia.

 

Lowrie, not Hall, was supposed to be our backup infielder. Hall's just filling in as best he can.

 

And suitable replacements for Pedroia aren't falling off trees. I mean maybe you could get a Willie Bloomquist or something but is that really what you want?

 

EDIT: Hmm, actually now I think about it, even with his offensive ineptitude, Bloomquist would actually be a half-decent fit. Fill in at both IF and OF depending on what's needed, adequate at 2B, came up as a SS, and we really have zero speed on the bench right now, so there's a couple niches he could fill.

[alphilip77]

Apparently Pedy won't need surgery or pins in his foot, so that's good to hear. Estimated timetable is 4-6 weeks. Also, V-Mart's injury doesn't seem bad enough to warrant a DL stint, so Tek will be filling in until he's ready. They'll probably break V-Mart back into the lineup in a week or so as DH, ala Posada.

[Spudboy]

While I would not call the Sox bench weak, it's difficult not to recognized that is poorly composed.

The Sox screwed the pooch on the Lowell to Texas deal and the handicap that resulted has remained to this day.

 

Hermida is a defensive nightmare and at best, a mediocre platoon hitter.

Hall has been serviceable in left and center but can't play SS and he may be nearly as bad at second (when we get enough of a sample size to make a fair assessment). As much as I love Mike Lowell, he's got no place on a team with three other 1st basemen and two other 3rd basemen.

 

As for Lowrie, he was never in the plans for the Sox during the winter. The plan for him from all reports, was to be in Pawtucket demonstrating that his wrist could withstand the rigors of daily play and to regain his hitting ability from the left side.

 

Obviously, that did not happen.

 

The Sox did make two good moves. Acquiring McDonald, and promoting Nava. Both have been all that anyone could have expected.

 

Anyone that believes that Pedroia will be back (and productive) in 4-6 weeks needs to have a better understanding of human physiology. The bone that he broke is load bearing and has poor blood supply. That means it won't heal as quickly as some other bones (see the post by Jacko) or review your college physiology text.

 

Pedroia will be on the field at Fenway in 6-8 weeks if all goes well. In the mean time, a real, proven MLB offensive replacement with average or above average defense needs to be acquired.

 

I say go after Ty Wigginton.

[YAZMAN]

Apparently Pedy won't need surgery or pins in his foot' date=' so that's good to hear. Estimated timetable is 4-6 weeks. Also, V-Mart's injury doesn't seem bad enough to warrant a DL stint, so Tek will be filling in until he's ready. They'll probably break V-Mart back into the lineup in a week or so as DH, ala Posada.[/quote']

 

WTF? This is unbelievable, it's worse than some of mj's creative writing papers from UMASS-Lowell.

[example1]

While I would not call the Sox bench weak, it's difficult not to recognized that is poorly composed.

The Sox screwed the pooch on the Lowell to Texas deal and the handicap that resulted has remained to this day.

 

I think the Sox are in the position they are in because their bench was well-composed.

 

Why is it that they get blame when injuries occur that are beyond anyone's wildest imagination, yet they picked up Nava when nobody else would have a few years ago, and they get McDonald who is able to produce above league average when they really need him to. Luck? I guess so, but it seems to be something that keeps this team in contention year after year so I'm ready to attribute it to something other than luck.

 

Pedroia will be on the field at Fenway in 6-8 weeks if all goes well. In the mean time, a real, proven MLB offensive replacement with average or above average defense needs to be acquired.

 

I say go after Ty Wigginton.

 

It all depends on how much it will cost. The production difference between an "offensive replacement with average or above average defense" and an average hitter with average defense isn't huge over 2 months, but the difference in cost could be significant.

 

The loss of Dustin Pedroia is huge no matter what, so the question is how much are you willing to spend to make up a fraction of that loss? Theo tends to be pretty conservative on those types of questions so I'm going to guess that he doesn't get anyone very impressive to replace Pedroia.

 

 

I think the FO deserves tons of credit. I "sold" early on this team and that must have awoken the Gods, because they turned it around immediately. The performance of this team--especially the offense--supports my view from the offseason that this team is one big offensive piece away from being the best team in baseball. They will get that piece eventually (not this year necessairly) and the franchise will be in great shape.

[Spudboy]

 

So, you agree with my post!:lol:

[example1]

 

So, you agree with my post!:lol:

 

Not entirely. I think the FO deserves criticism for the flaws of the bullpen. I don't think the lack of bench/backup depth can be blamed on them, in fact I think they have put together a really solid team for a "bridge" season filled with injuries. They didn't get 'lucky' to get those other guys, they were smart enough to get those other guys.

[Spudboy]

Good.

 

Here is what I said.

 

"The Sox did make two good moves. Acquiring McDonald, and promoting Nava. Both have been all that anyone could have expected."

 

Where did I use the word luck?

[Palodios]

Not entirely. I think the FO deserves criticism for the flaws of the bullpen. I don't think the lack of bench/backup depth can be blamed on them' date=' in fact I think they have put together a really solid team for a "bridge" season filled with injuries. They didn't get 'lucky' to get those other guys, they were smart enough to get those other guys.[/quote']

 

For the first time in a while, I'm pretty happy with what they did this offseason. I'm still giving Lackey some more time to prove himself because he's been decent so far, but besides that, everyone seems to be doing pretty pretty well.

[jacksonianmarch]

Pal, Lackey has been awful, he just seems to be able to gut it out long enough for the sox offense to bail him out. On almost any other team, he'd have 9 losses already

[BSN07]

Well' date=' the team knew two or three seasons ago that they were going to need a catcher to replace Varitek. Vmart has been a very good offensive solution, but the amount of time this team has gone without actually acquiring/developing a young catcher is worrisome.[/quote']

 

6/28

The Boston Red Sox moved closer to adding a backstop who could help them in a couple years. Cuban catcher Adalberto Ibarra took his physical today according to the catcher's agency on Twitter. Speier notes that the deal should become official once the results of the physical are available. The Red Sox agreed to a $3MM deal with the 22-year-old in April.

 

Well they did something

[BSN07]

The Associated Press

 

BOSTON- The Boston Red Sox today announced that their entire 25-man roster has been placed on the 60-day DL after contracting a rare disease known as osteomicrofibrosis. Osteomicrofibrosis is an affliction which causes each and every bone in the body to dissolve into a pale, gritty, jelly-like substance. The Red Sox management and executives, while concerned, are not conceding the season just yet. As of 10 PM Saturday night, the Red Sox were deep into talks with many different teams about trades. However, it has been difficult, as most General Managers are unwilling to consider trading veteran players or up-and-coming rookies for what are essentially gelatinous blobs. (We are of course excluding any historical trades involving David Wells). Orioles GM Andy MacPhail, after speaking to reporters about his intention to use 'ancient pagan magic' during this season's trading deadline, did indicate that he would consider trading Nick Markakis and Adam Jones to Boston for several diseased and useless piles of flesh.

 

"I think it sounds promising", MacPhail said, before repeatedly hitting himself in the face with a hammer and drooling onto his bib.

 

Your so money, you don't even know how money you are.

[SoxSport]

Its not a matter of a weak bench' date=' more about having so many injuries that their fourth string guys play significant time. how could they have known that Lowrie would be hurt for 2 full years, and Ellsbury would be sipping fruity drinks in Cancun?[/quote']

 

Yeah. Lowrie is a mystery. Ellsbury seems to be spending more time at the Boras Prep school than the Red Sox.

 

The Red Sox are paying $30 million to two pitchers who have stunk this year. Beckett and Lackey. They have backed off on a deal for Vmart--probably the 2nd best hitting catcher in baseball. You'd think they'd go out and fill the obvious holes they have at backup catcher and SS/2B. They throw millions around for "stars" and then they pinch pennies filling the roster. A regular gets hurt and no replacement is there. Ortiz/Lowell and the overpopulated bullpen have contributed to that.

 

All this bullpen shuffling that's been going on almost daily the last few weeks is maybe a sign of roster weakness. Ask yourself what the Yankees would be doing right now in their position? They would certainly not be sitting on the pot.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

So Dustin Pedroia is out for six weeks huh?After pulling an amazing 3 home runs in one game he fractures his foot and is going to miss 6 weeks of action.I'm not to happy about that.Then we have Clay who i heard might not be put in the DL so thats pretty good.Also Victor Martinez hurt his thumb so we will be seeing more Tek

[Palodios]

Buchholz will possibly pitch either monday or tuesday-- Francona.

 

 

6/28

 

 

Well they did something

 

I doubt that he will make much of an impact.

 

 

The Red Sox are paying $30 million to two pitchers who have stunk this year. Beckett and Lackey.

 

Lackey is having a below average season, but he's not doing terribly. In 15 games so far he's had only two games where he pitched less than 6 IP, and only 4 where he gave up more than 4 runs. One or two exceptional start and he's back to career averages.

[bsox0407]

MDC is added to the walking wounded with a forearm strain, another 15 day stint on the DL and one less opening day starter that we had.

[bsox0407]

According to Boston.com

 

Josh Beckett just completed a two-inning simulated game at Fenway Park against hitters from the independent Brockton Rox.

 

He threw 41 pitches and, according to Sox media relations chief Pam Ganley, felt fine.

 

Beckett's next step will be to start a minor-league rehab assignment, probably on Tuesday. He'll need a few starts in the minors before he is activated off the disabled list.

 

In other news:

 

* Clay Buchholz threw off the mound for the first time since he was hurt on Saturday. He's going to throw a full side session in the next day or two and is on track to start against Tampa Bay on Monday.

 

* Infielder Tug Hulett cleared waivers and was outrighted to Pawtucket, which cleared a spot on the 40-man roster.

[Spudboy]

Hulett was waived?

 

Sorry Dojji!

[WhiskeyBreath]

The Sox went out and acquired Kevin Cash. :thumbdown

[TheMino007]

Apparently Ellsbury has been drinking the JD Drew pussy aide and wont play hurt unless he is 100 %, speaking of the main puss himself, JD Drew pulls himself out of the lineup an hour before the game last night b/c of a stiff neck. Being a Boras client, I'm sure in the state of mind of not playing unless fully healthy. Ellsbury has already has become soft, hopefully it doesn't spread to the rest of the team