Rondo and Celtics agree to deal

[bsox0407]

If you have an argument as stupid or more stupid than this one' date=' please use it now so we can get it over with.[/quote']

 

thank you i try my hardest.

[Dipre]

i would want Ray Allen on my roster for the next few years. he still has it. You guys think different about it but i feel that he is not in the twilight of his career. maybe he should pull some roger clemens go on steroids and get better. it think his still a high caliber player.

Also Emmz Kobe has to score more now then he had when he was with Shaq. Did he ever have to avg 30 points a night with Shaq? in 2002-03 he did but that was it.

 

If you have an argument as stupid or more stupid than this one' date=' please use it now so we can get it over with[/b'].

 

Request granted.

[Emmz]

i would want Ray Allen on my roster for the next few years. he still has it. You guys think different about it but i feel that he is not in the twilight of his career. maybe he should pull some roger clemens go on steroids and get better. it think his still a high caliber player.

Also Emmz Kobe has to score more now then he had when he was with Shaq. Did he ever have to avg 30 points a night with Shaq? in 2002-03 he did but that was it.

 

This is a little erractic isn't it? Kobe isn't out of his prime years, he's still an elite, possibly THE best player in the NBA. Of course his scoring was going to go up when Shaq left. This is about Ray Allen, not Kobe Bryant

[bsox0407]

Request granted.

 

I am glad that I could appease you.

[Dipre]

I am glad that I could appease you.

 

Hey, you just made my day man.

[Emmz]

It's nothing to be proud of, man

[bsox0407]

Hey' date=' you just made my day man.[/quote']

 

im glad my opinion however you may feel how stupid they are to you feels right to me.

[bsox0407]

It's nothing to be proud of' date=' man[/quote']

 

I am glad you have missed the appeasement of myself making myself look stupid to you guys. i feel as though that he can still play well. and he will be good for the next few years. IMO

[Dipre]

I am glad you have missed the appeasement of myself making myself look stupid to you guys. i feel as though that he can still play well. and he will be good for the next few years. IMO

 

We know this.

 

Now look back at your statements and ponder what's wrong.

[Emmz]

im glad my opinion however you may feel how stupid they are to you feels right to me.

 

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[bsox0407]

Hey' date=' you just made my day man.[/quote']

 

I went from post of the year in the Which Field to the dumbest of the year in a matter of days. of course they can't all be winners. we will see what happens with Ray Allen this year.

[Emmz]

I went from post of the year in the Which Field to the dumbest of the year in a matter of days. of course they can't all be winners. we will see what happens with Ray Allen this year.

 

He's still not as good as he was back then, dude

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

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Don't steal my s***.

[bsox0407]

He's still not as good as he was back then' date=' dude[/quote']

 

Did i not already state that in a prior comment?

 

 

 

 

i think that his play is not as great as it was but he is still pretty damn good.

[Emmz]

Don't steal my s***.

 

I have never been close to your toilet, mister

[Emmz]

Did i not already state that in a prior comment?

 

But you downplayed his decline, significantly.

[bsox0407]

But you downplayed his decline' date=' significantly.[/quote']

 

I dont feel that his decline is that significant.

[TheKilo]

Let me slow this down for you, because it's clear you just don't f***ing get it.

 

i think you are the one who needs further explanation in the reasoning. Do you really want Gabe Pruitt Or Eddie House running our offense.

 

Rondo would be the point guard through the end of the season and then you could find his replacement in the offseason. There are a lot of good young PGs in this league, and replacing Rondo with one of them for far less money could prove to be a wiser investment.

 

You're obviously not as big of a Celtics fan as you make yourself out to be, otherwise you would know Gabe Pruitt isn't on the team anymore.

 

I never said that he is a max player. stop making s*** up and putting words in my mouth. i don't need your help to prove my point. What i said was that we do need him at any cost because he runs our team.

 

So, if Rondo was holding out for a max contract, you would be an advocate for signing him, right? Because that's what it means when you say you want a player at any cost. Since the max offer you can give someone is, shockingly enough, a max contract, and you want him at any cost, it's clear you think Rondo would be worth a max contract.

 

Logic can be so tricky sometimes...

 

without him at all i think the Celtics are no where near as good a team. Rajon Rondo is the Best PG the CELTICS HAVE. Not the best in the NBA. his ability to pass the ball around with the precision that he has is a necessity to this team. he mid range game has improved over last year. His game is getting better. I think that Rondo is like Jason Kidd without the wife beating. if you agree with that then why in the world do you have an argument in the first place Kidd- last year 21.4 million dollars.

 

I think Rondo is a nice player. I don't think a player who is as good as you say posts a 43% eFG in the playoffs. I don't think a player as good as you say shoots 63.4% from the line when his game is predicated on driving the ball to the hoop and getting fouled.

 

Rondo could have filled his role this season, and a replacement could be found. Contrary to what Tommy Heinsohn would have you believe, Rajon Rondo is an easily replaceable player.

 

As for Jason Kidd, I must have missed the part where we were talking about bringing him to the Celtics...because I never advocated for that.

 

 

i think Rondo the young player who has been in the league a few years and is a good player. should make atleast half that with Rondo's skill-set.

 

What?

 

"Good" players shouldn't get $11 million a season.

 

Not only the defense he brings to the Table.

 

Very, very overrated. Rondo isn't very good and takes far too many chances defensively.

 

His offense will be there as the time comes

 

Really? His jump shot hasn't improved at all in the three years he's been in the league, and doesn't look to be improving at all. You'll have to tell me where the improvement is going to come from.

 

but right now his job is not to score but to feed the other players on the court. Don't Forget to mention that he is a really good rebounder for a guy who in NBA terms "short." He is always around the ball and keeps the upbeat pace of the Celtics. If we let him go even with the Big three this team does not do as well.

 

Once again, he'd play out this season and you'd be able to use the money he'd make and the money from Ray Allen's contract to find a suitable replacement for both.

 

I was reiterating my point by saying who would you rather at the PG position thats on the team. Was Gary Payton our last best player. a player whose career was ending that year. Who is before that.

 

Your point, for the umpteenth time, was that you felt Rondo needed to be on the team at any cost. I disagreed and you have not responded to that point, but shifted your argument to "WHO'S BETTER", which wasn't what we were discussing, at all.

[MDF3530]

As I said when I posted this story on another forum yesterday, I hope he enjoys playing with Pierce, KG and Allen while it lasts. All three of them have a lot of hard miles on them.

[Emmz]

I dont feel that his decline is that significant.

 

How is his decline form one of his best seasons, in 2001-02, with guys like Glen Robinson (Averaged over 20 ppg) and Sam Cassell (Averages around 18), to now, only being able to muster up around 17-18 per year, not significant? I thought you would have understood that through all of the statistics.

[bsox0407]

Rondo would be the point guard through the end of the season and then you could find his replacement in the offseason. There are a lot of good young PGs in this league, and replacing Rondo with one of them for far less money could prove to be a wiser investment.

 

You're obviously not as big of a Celtics fan as you make yourself out to be, otherwise you would know Gabe Pruitt isn't on the team anymore.

 

So Pruitt is gone. does it really matter who do you want to be our PG? Pruitt was third string if not farther back. i didn't realize he was gone. I guess because i made a mistake, I am not a Fan. IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE YOU CAN'T BE A BIG FAN OF ANY TEAM.

 

So, if Rondo was holding out for a max contract, you would be an advocate for signing him, right? Because that's what it means when you say you want a player at any cost. Since the max offer you can give someone is, shockingly enough, a max contract, and you want him at any cost, it's clear you think Rondo would be worth a max contract.

 

You take my words way out of context. I wouldn't sign him for 25 million but i would definitely pay 15 for him.

 

 

I think Rondo is a nice player. I don't think a player who is as good as you say posts a 43% eFG in the playoffs.

 

So 5 percent off of you regular season of eFG is horrible. Kevin Garnett has a playoff ePG .475 and a regular season ePG of .501. So lets never sign Garnett for more than 11 million.

 

 

 

As for Jason Kidd, I must have missed the part where we were talking about bringing him to the Celtics...because I never advocated for that.

 

what i was saying because his is compared to Kidd that Kidd was getting 21 million.

Or How about Gary Payton who was making 13 and was compared to Rondo.

 

 

 

 

Your point, for the umpteenth time, was that you felt Rondo needed to be on the team at any cost. I disagreed and you have not responded to that point, but shifted your argument to "WHO'S BETTER", which wasn't what we were discussing, at all.

 

I was Saying who would you rather have for a PG for a reasonable price of 11 million or less? It was not about who is better it was who would rather have for that price who is so much better.

[bsox0407]

How is his decline form one of his best seasons' date=' in 2001-02, with guys like Glen Robinson (Averaged over 20 ppg) and Sam Cassell (Averages around 18), to now, only being able to muster up around 17-18 per year, not significant? I thought you would have understood that through all of the statistics.[/quote']

 

i think that if you put him on a team he needed to carry then his PPG would go up. If you would look at pierce and KG's stats for PPG then you will see that by the stats then they are all in the Twilight of their respective careers.

[Emmz]

i think that if you put him on a team he needed to carry then his PPG would go up. If you would look at pierce and KG's stats for PPG then you will see that by the stats then they are all in the Twilight of their respective careers.

 

He didn't carry Milwaukee in that season, but he still had a better season that the seasons he's been having as of late. Understand?

[bsox0407]

He didn't carry Milwaukee in that season' date=' but he still had a better season that the seasons he's been having as of late. Understand?[/quote']

 

Fine whatever you say. even though i disagree with your "facts." still look at what all the BIG 3 have done since they all came together. all of their PPG went down.

[Dipre]

i think that if you put him on a team he needed to carry then his PPG would go up. If you would look at pierce and KG's stats for PPG then you will see that by the stats then they are all in the Twilight of their respective careers.

 

Pierce is nearing it, KG was injured.

[bsox0407]

Pierce is nearing it' date=' KG was injured.[/quote']

 

even when KG went from scoring 22.4 in 2006-07 to 18.8 2007-2008. I was saying that all of the Big Three when coming together there PPG went down.

[Dipre]

even when KG went from scoring 22.4 in 2006-07 to 18.8 2007-2008. I was saying that all of the Big Three when coming together there PPG went down.

 

Different situations and you know it.

[bsox0407]

Different situations and you know it.

 

HOW?

[bsox0407]

Different situations and you know it.

 

I don't understand that two players who change teams to the same team and both had their PPGs drop by a few points are not both in the Twilight of their careers?

[Emmz]

HOW?

 

How not?