Bates called up

[BoSox21]

these lineups are starting to look like 2006

[TheKilo]

Signing a big name like Lowell for three years may have been a mistake.

[BoSox21]

yea but I have a hard time blaming the FO for that since it's 100% injury-based

[Dipre]

This.......is going places.

 

Prospects are in the organization to fill needs, we have a need, we bring up a prospect.

 

Isn't that how baseball works?

[Spudboy]

WOW!!!! Everyone is so opinionated over a MILB prospect starting ONE game! Bates, from all I've gleaned from exhaustive research (LOL), is the Sox #11 prospect in the system and clearly the #1 1st base prospect available to play tonight. Green at 2nd, Lugo at short is probably better, I agree. But that is only a 1 or 2 game solution. This is nothing to get too excited about (unless you are a Bates fan) as it will all settle in to normalcy after the ASG break.

 

 

What better scenario to have a "scrub" start than against a bottom dweller such as the A's.

 

Relax.

 

Go Smoltz!

[Spudboy]

This.......is going places.

 

Prospects are in the organization to fill needs, we have a need, we bring up a prospect.

 

Isn't that how baseball works?

 

Excellent post my Dominican friend.

[Dutchy]

Excellent post my Dominican friend.

 

Looks like Dominicans are a little smarter than some of us were lead to believe...

[Spudboy]

Looks like Dominicans are a little smarter than some of us were lead to believe...

 

I was not mislead. I recognize developed intellect when I encounter it.

[das11209]

I am shocked to see our depth.

[a700hitter]

Highly doubtful Bates would be the reason we'd lose any of these games.

But having a major league bat at first base may help us win some of those games.

[SCM33]

Im gunna have to agree with 700 here.

 

Dr/Dipre....why do we have minor league players? To fill out rosters, and develop talent, not rush them in to Fenway Park and pencil them in out of need. Bates may turn out to be a useful part, who knows....but he had no business in there.

 

The Sox have a need right now, and the need is at 3B, there is no need to weaken the D at 2 positions (I know youk does well at 3B, but I want him at 1B). Not sure what is out there available, but they need to do something as it looks like this Lowell thing wont go away, and I dont want Green/Lugo/Lowrie rotating between 3B/SS.

 

Options available FA:

Morgan Ensberg

Marshall McDougall http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Marshall-McDougall.shtml

Mark Grudzielanek

Richie Sexson (1B)

Chris Gomez

 

Yuck

[Spudboy]

Im gunna have to agree with 700 here.

 

Dr/Dipre....why do we have minor league players? To fill out rosters, and develop talent, not rush them in to Fenway Park and pencil them in out of need. Bates may turn out to be a useful part, who knows....but he had no business in there.

 

The Sox have a need right now, and the need is at 3B, there is no need to weaken the D at 2 positions (I know youk does well at 3B, but I want him at 1B). Not sure what is out there available, but they need to do something as it looks like this Lowell thing wont go away, and I dont want Green/Lugo/Lowrie rotating between 3B/SS.

 

Options available FA:

Morgan Ensberg

Marshall McDougall http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Marshall-McDougall.shtml

Mark Grudzielanek

Richie Sexson (1B)

Chris Gomez

 

Yuck

 

The Lowell situation will likely linger throughout the season. The Sox will have to deal with it in the second half. But at what price? And what roster moves will be needed to accommodate the acquisition?

 

We'll see.

 

In the mean time, please post more frequently. Your avatar is the best on Talksox.

[SCM33]

The Lowell situation will likely linger throughout the season. The Sox will have to deal with it in the second half. But at what price? And what roster moves will be needed to accommodate the acquisition?

 

We'll see.

 

In the mean time, please post more frequently. Your avatar is the best on Talksox.

 

Irish Pride.

 

I tend to post more when the crowd is good here. It goes in waves here as you will see (although there are many excellent posters here most of which who have been here for 4-5 years, YOTN, 700, fan on the cape, kilo, bsn, ORS, MannyHOF, schill, Bosox, Coco, and even the yankee guys). I lurk on here every single day for periods of time, I just choose not to pad my stats in the game threads, I enjoy watching games more than typing about them hahaha. It just depends on what is posted when I decide to post, seems like a good crew of new guys right now, just been a little busy with some personal stuff.

[BSN07]

I see where A700 and SCM are coming from. I don't like the depth at 1B/3B right now either. The Red Sox need to make a move IMO. But I don't think they need to do it until after they have seen what Lowell gives them first. He should be back at after the ASB I believe. So that means Bates will get to play in every game that they face a LHP. I know Oakland has a couple, and he may face 1 in the next series(not positive just a guess). So he might see 50% of the Sox games until the break( 3 or 4). I don't think it's the end of the world. If the rest of the season was to be played out with a Platoon of Kotsay/Bates I would be much more worried. The next week and a half, not so much.

 

 

Oh and thanks for the shout out SCM:thumbsup:

[a700hitter]

With all the discussion about this kid, who IMO should not be playing for the Sox, I have to wonder why they didn't bring up Carter. I realize that he is a lefty and so is kotsay, but if Kotsay was healthy, he'd be playing against lefties and righties while Bailey was out. At least Carter has had a lot of minor league experience and a few cups of coffee at the major league level. He has been a good hitter at every level, including during his few short stints at the major league level. I'd much rather him hitting against lefties than Bates, who really has no record of accomplishment.

[Dipre]

Im gunna have to agree with 700 here.

 

Dr/Dipre....why do we have minor league players? To fill out rosters, and develop talent, not rush them in to Fenway Park and pencil them in out of need. Bates may turn out to be a useful part, who knows....but he had no business in there.

The Sox have a need right now, and the need is at 3B, there is no need to weaken the D at 2 positions (I know youk does well at 3B, but I want him at 1B). Not sure what is out there available, but they need to do something as it looks like this Lowell thing wont go away, and I dont want Green/Lugo/Lowrie rotating between 3B/SS.

 

Options available FA:

Morgan Ensberg

Marshall McDougall http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Marshall-McDougall.shtml

Mark Grudzielanek

Richie Sexson (1B)

Chris Gomez

 

Yuck

 

 

Not all emergencies can be prevented.

 

Remember, if Lowrie hadn't been injured, we wouldn't even be talking about 3B depth.

[a700hitter]

Not all emergencies can be prevented.

 

Remember, if Lowrie hadn't been injured, we wouldn't even be talking about 3B depth.

Is he the big league bat that would be the contingency plan if Lowell breaks down. I am not comfortable with that. He should be fighting Lugo and Green for the SS spot. I really don't want to see two of those three in the lineup every night. Do you?

[Dipre]

Is he the big league bat that would be the contingency plan if Lowell breaks down. I am not comfortable with that. He should be fighting Lugo and Green for the SS spot. I really don't want to see two of those three in the lineup every night. Do you?

 

Completely taken out of context.

[a700hitter]

Completely taken out of context.

How so?

[BoSox21]

its a valid point. I dont think most people are comfortable with any combination of Lugo/Lowrie/Green playing the left side of the infield full-time

[a700hitter]

its a valid point. I dont think most people are comfortable with any combination of Lugo/Lowrie/Green playing the left side of the infield full-time

I start gagging when I think about it.

[a700hitter]

They really need to pick up some insurance in case Lowell breaks down. I don't think they wait until after the All Star break to see how it goes. He may be fine for a couple of weeks and then break down. If he breaks down after July 31st, a waiver deal would be much harder to accomplish. They need to prepare for a situation where Lowell will not be available.

[Dojji]

I agree completely, they CAN'T just assume that if Lowell is healthy for the next 3-4 weeks he'll remain so for the life of his contract. They HAVE to build some real insurance in behind Lowell at third base. They HAVE to make it VERY easy for Tito to give Lowell regular rest. That doesn't just mean having a guy who can play the position, it means someone who's good enough that Lowell doesn't feel like he has to force himself to play to give the team the best chance to win.

[TheKilo]

I agree completely' date=' they CAN'T just assume that if Lowell is healthy for the next 3-4 weeks he'll remain so for the life of his contract. They HAVE to build some real insurance in behind Lowell at third base.[/quote']

 

Where was this during the offseason???

[Dojji]

Lowell's hip problems hadn't flared back up in the offseason. But if you'll think back, I was all for getting Nick Swisher on this team and finding a strong bench 1B and I hated the Kotsay signing for that reason. I wasn't blind to the thought that Lowell would need regular rest.

 

And if you bring up a certain overpaid 1B in this completely unrelated conversation, I refuse to be held liable for the conversation that follows.

[a700hitter]

And if you bring up a certain overpaid 1B in this completely unrelated conversation' date=' I refuse to be held liable for the conversation that follows.[/quote']lol! They saved a lot of money by not signing that overpaid first baseman. They need to put some of those savings to use to bolster the bench with some bona fide big leaguers. I have seen enough of Bailey and Bates.

[TheKilo]

lol! They saved a lot of money by not signing that overpaid first baseman. They need to put some of those savings to use to bolster the bench with some bona fide big leaguers. I have seen enough of Bailey and Bates.

 

With you 100%

[Dojji]

As am I. However, that's a lot harder now than it would have been in the offseason.

 

This would be so much simpler if we'd beaten the Yankees to Swisher. He's the guy I really wanted last offseason, the guy who IMHO would have made the most difference, considering he plays 1B and all 3 outfield positions, switch hits and has 25-30HR power he'd be the ideal fit for exactly what we need right now -- if the Yankees hadn't caught Theo napping and got him first.

[BSN07]

Actually from what I have read, most think there will be multiple moves after the non waiver trade deadline. Simply because a lot of teams won't claim someone to block another team from getting them for fear they might get stuck with the added salary.

[Dojji]

I don't see a lot of 1B or 3B going anywhere in a waiver deal. Really good corner infielders are very hard to find right now, whatever the defensive spectrum would have you believe.