Bates called up

[TheKilo]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/07/bates_called_up.html

 

Playing first tonight.

[Looch Ness Monster]

Kind of shocking. Why call Bates up? He's hitting around .180 at Pawtucket in 88 AB. He was tearing it up for a stretch but came down to earth in his last 30 AB or so.

 

Maybe the Sox figure if he can't hit MLB pitching now he'll never be able to at age 25.

[Dutchy]

Crap! This better not mean Kotsay's on the DL.

 

EDIT: Jeff Bailey likely to the DL. Phew!

[TheKilo]

Kind of shocking. Why call Bates up? He's hitting around .180 at Pawtucket in 88 AB. He was tearing it up for a stretch but came down to earth in his last 30 AB or so.

 

Maybe the Sox figure if he can't hit MLB pitching now he'll never be able to at age 25.

 

He's the last healthy RHH corner infielder we have.

 

Crap! This better not mean Kotsay's on the DL.

 

The corresponding move is Lowrie to the 60 day DL, retroactive to April.

[a700hitter]

What? Are we trying to imitate the Mets by playing no-name guys from the minors?

[Dutchy]

He's the last healthy RHH corner infielder we have.

 

 

 

The corresponding move is Lowrie to the 60 day DL, retroactive to April.

 

Oh, OK. I can live with that.

[Rdsxmbnt]

What? Are we trying to imitate the Mets by playing no-name guys from the minors?

 

He's not a no-name guy.

[a700hitter]

He's not a no-name guy.

That's right. He has a name, but he is a nobody. They'd be better off letting Smoltz hit tonight.

[Looch Ness Monster]

That's right. He has a name' date=' but he is a nobody. They'd be better off letting Smoltz hit tonight.[/quote']

 

He's not really a nobody...he hit .340 in AA and was a guy that worked hard in the offseason to improve his stance and his swing. The results showed and he has a small sample size of at bats in AAA.

 

:thumbdown

[Rdsxmbnt]

That's right. He has a name' date=' but he is a nobody. They'd be better off letting Smoltz hit tonight.[/quote']

 

You realize that all prospects have to start somewhere? Not everyone that will come through this farm system is a household name. Sure Bates isn't a blue-chipper in the Buchholz/Anderson form but he's a legit prospect.

[a700hitter]

He's not really a nobody...he hit .340 in AA and was a guy that worked hard in the offseason to improve his stance and his swing. The results showed and he has a small sample size of at bats in AAA.

 

:thumbdown

Go to a bar where they watch they game tonight. Ask the regulars if they have heard of him. The responses, or lack of responses, will tell you that he is a nobody.

[Dutchy]

Go to a bar where they watch they game tonight. Ask the regulars if they have heard of him. The responses' date=' or lack of responses, will tell you that he is a nobody.[/quote']

 

I'm not sure a handful of drunk people are the best meter of a prospect's talent. Maybe that's just me though :dunno:

[a700hitter]

You realize that all prospects have to start somewhere? Not everyone that will come through this farm system is a household name. Sure Bates isn't a blue-chipper in the Buchholz/Anderson form but he's a legit prospect.

He's closer to a cow-chipper than a blue-chipper. The organization should have allowed itself to get caught shorthanded like this. The A's are a bad team and the Sox should sweep them at home, but if you start throwing guys like this out there anything can happen.

[a700hitter]

I'm not sure a handful of drunk people are the best meter of a prospect's talent. Maybe that's just me though :dunno:

I'm talking about regular patrons that watch the game every night and scream at the TV. Those are good fans. They will not know who this kid is.

[Dutchy]

He's closer to a cow-chipper than a blue-chipper. The organization should have allowed itself to get caught shorthanded like this. The A's are a bad team and the Sox should sweep them at home' date=' but if you start throwing guys like this out there anything can happen.[/quote']

 

It's the organization's fault that Lowell, Kotsay and Bailey are all hurt at the same time? That's a bit of a stretch. That Lowell was put on the DL at all was more a precautionary measure than anything else. By all accounts, he's feeling fine and he'll be back after the All-Star break.

[Dutchy]

I'm talking about regular patrons that watch the game every night and scream at the TV. Those are good fans. They will not know who this kid is.

 

I'm not sure a handful of angry bar patrons are the best meter of a prospect's talent either

[a700hitter]

It's the organization's fault that Lowell' date=' Kotsay and Bailey are all hurt at the same time? That's a bit of a stretch. That Lowell was put on the DL at all was more a precautionary measure than anything else. By all accounts, he's feeling fine and he'll be back after the All-Star break.[/quote']No, it is the organization's fault that they haven't filled the obvious need for a corner IF that has existed for several weeks. Now, they have to put this bush leaguer in the starting lineup.

[Rdsxmbnt]

Me: "Have you guys heard of 1B Bates?"

True Fan: "JD Drew sucks, should have kept Nixon, dirt dogs for life!11!!!!1!"

Me: "No but seriousl..."

True Fan: "YOOOUUUKKK!"

Me: "I think we're done here"

[a700hitter]

Me: "Have you guys heard of 1B Bates?"

True Fan: "JD Drew sucks, should have kept Nixon, dirt dogs for life!11!!!!1!"

Me: "No but seriousl..."

True Fan: "YOOOUUUKKK!"

Me: "I think we're done here"

Elitist snob. Those guys probably know more about the game than you do. Just because they don't know the stats of every farm hand doesn't mean that you are a better or more knowledgeable fan.

[Rdsxmbnt]

Elitist snob. Those guys probably know more about the game than you do. Just because they don't know the stats of every farm hand doesn't mean that you are a better or more knowledgeable fan.

 

And just because they don't know who Aaron Bates is, that means he's a bush leaguer? That's the point I'm making here...

[TheKilo]

Elitist snob. Those guys probably know more about the game than you do. Just because they don't know the stats of every farm hand doesn't mean that you are a better or more knowledgeable fan.

 

because they watch the games amirite

[a700hitter]

And just because they don't know who Aaron Bates is' date=' that means he's a bush leaguer? That's the point I'm making here...[/quote']He is a bush leaguer. That's the point I am making. He has no major league experience, which means that he is a bush leaguer. He also doesn't have much minor league experience. He has no business in the starting lineup tonight.

[Dutchy]

No' date=' it is the organization's fault that they haven't filled the obvious need for a corner IF that has existed for several weeks. Now, they have to put this bush leaguer in the starting lineup.[/quote']

 

Mark Kotsay has been doing just fine as a backup (.291/.316/.382). He's day-to-day and Lowell's due back in about a week. I think you're blowing this one game way out of proportion.

[a700hitter]

because they watch the games amirite

... and you play the games?

[Dutchy]

Well I can see this thread's going nowhere fast. I'm out.

[a700hitter]

Mark Kotsay has been doing just fine as a backup (.291/.316/.382). He's day-to-day and Lowell's due back in about a week. I think you're blowing this one game way out of proportion.

I realize that this can happen from time to time, but I hope we don't see this kid beyond tonight. I know you youngsters have a fascination with seeing the prospects, but I'd rather watch them at the Futures Game instead of at a Red Sox game.

[a700hitter]

I don't understand why Youkilis is n't at first tonight with Lugo at SS and Green at 3rd. The kid should be watching from the bench.

[BSN07]

It's only for a week. God forbid the kid gets to play a couple games in the Majors while the veterans who will help the team down the stretch get a few extra days rest:rolleyes:

[a700hitter]

It's only for a week. God forbid the kid gets to play a couple games in the Majors while the veterans who will help the team down the stretch get a few extra days rest:rolleyes:

Let's just hope that they don't drop a couple of games against teams they should beat handily. Playoff spots can be decided by one or two games.

[TheKilo]

Highly doubtful Bates would be the reason we'd lose any of these games.