Yankees going to sox route??

[jacksonianmarch]

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/40702-garcia-attracting-interest

 

Saying that the Yankees are one of 4 teams interested in signing Freddy Garcia. When he is healthy, he's a horse. And right now, he should be as healthy as he ever will be. That being said, he's status post rotator cuff surgery and the last time he threw he barely touched 90 for a max. I dont like the idea unless there is another pitcher on the horizon.

[BSN07]

It be a good depth move. Better then Jason Johnson.

[diony]

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/40702-garcia-attracting-interest

 

Saying that the Yankees are one of 4 teams interested in signing Freddy Garcia. When he is healthy, he's a horse. And right now, he should be as healthy as he ever will be. That being said, he's status post rotator cuff surgery and the last time he threw he barely touched 90 for a max. I dont like the idea unless there is another pitcher on the horizon.

 

He got surgery last February if I remember correctly. He got fully recovered, until he got a stiff right shoulder pitching for Detroit. He suffered that again playing Winter Ball in Venezuela in November.

 

How can't you like the idea when is only a minor league deal?

[26 to 6]

I would love the idea of bringing Freddy in on a Minor League deal with a ST invite. Sign him up.....

[Cocos Disciples]

Wouldn't surprise me at all if this guy neared 200 IP with a 4.5 ERA or so. Winter Ball should gain him some strength.

[diony]

Wouldn't surprise me at all if this guy neared 200 IP with a 4.5 ERA or so. Winter Ball should gain him some strength.

 

He only made two starts in Winter Ball, finished with 7 IPs.

[Dipre]

He only made two starts in Winter Ball' date=' finished with 7 IPs.[/quote']

 

His shoulder stiffed up, they gave him rest, and it stiffed up again, so he shut it down because he didn't wanna risk a relapse of the shoulder injury and risk signing a ML contract.

[RedSoxRooter]

Didn't the whole "sign a guy in the offseason so he could (may) be ready by July" thing actually start with the Yanks and Clemens? The Red Sox do it now, but I think the Yanks started it.

[Dojji]

Actually with the Astros and Clemens but I suspect and I'm not alone in this that it was done to help Roger cover up for a PED suspension

[Cocos Disciples]

He only made two starts in Winter Ball' date=' finished with 7 IPs.[/quote']

 

*Whistles my way out of thread*

[26 to 6]

Didn't the whole "sign a guy in the offseason so he could (may) be ready by July" thing actually start with the Yanks and Clemens? The Red Sox do it now' date=' but I think the Yanks started it.[/quote']

Not necessarily, we've seen it happen plenty of times with different teams, signing a guy who's recoverign from an injury with the intention of buildign him up to come in mid-season and contribute. Brings to mind the Yankees signing Jon Leiber prior to the 2003 season while he was recovering from TJ. He rehabbed the entire season and then came back in 2004 and had a decent season. This was doen prior to Clemens in 2007.

 

Actually with the Astros and Clemens but I suspect and I'm not alone in this that it was done to help Roger cover up for a PED suspension

So that would be implying that the Yankees or Astros were in on it, and I think that's a bold accusation to make without any evidence.

[Dipre]

Not necessarily' date=' we've seen it happen plenty of times with different teams, signing a guy who's recoverign from an injury with the intention of buildign him up to come in mid-season and contribute. Brings to mind the Yankees signing Jon Leiber prior to the 2003 season while he was recovering from TJ. He rehabbed the entire season and then came back in 2004 and had a decent season. This was doen prior to Clemens in 2007.[/quote']

 

Meaning you admit the Yanks set the precedent, so in fact, the Yankees are going the Yankee route.

 

Interesting.

[26 to 6]

No, I'm saying that it didn't begin with Clemens, and that it's quite possible that it happened with another team prior to the Yankees signing Leiber and that none of us seem to recall off the top of our head. Either way I agree that the Yankees aren't going the "Red Sox route." Whether they started it or not, it's something that was done way before the Red Sox started doing it.

[Dojji]

So that would be implying that the Yankees or Astros were in on it, and I think that's a bold accusation to make without any evidence.

 

In on it? No. In on keeping it out of the headlines? That's not so bold. There's a lot of stuff that we only really learn about months or years after the fact and I'm sure there's a ton of stuff that goes down that we never learn of.

[ARod2212]

In on it? No. In on keeping it out of the headlines? That's not so bold. There's a lot of stuff that we only really learn about months or years after the fact and I'm sure there's a ton of stuff that goes down that we never learn of.

I didn't know not having a contract was the same as a suspension. Maybe that's why Barry Bonds didn't get signed.

[jacksonianmarch]

No' date=' I'm saying that it didn't begin with Clemens, and that it's quite possible that it happened with another team prior to the Yankees signing Leiber and that none of us seem to recall off the top of our head. Either way I agree that the Yankees aren't going the "Red Sox route." Whether they started it or not, it's something that was done way before the Red Sox started doing it.[/quote']

 

we signed Lieber knowing he'd miss his first season. He wasnt even pencilled into the rotation for his second season until he won the spot in ST

[26 to 6]

we signed Lieber knowing he'd miss his first season. He wasnt even pencilled into the rotation for his second season until he won the spot in ST

I realize, what's your point? We still signed an injured pitcher knowing that he wouldn't be able to contribute right away, and let him rehab in our organization. That's the only point I was trying to make Dr. Smarty Pants.

 

 

 

...speaking of injured pitchers, it seems Freddy Garcia has narrowed his choice of teams to the Yankees and Mets. This according to Ken Rosenthal. He's looking for a Major League contract. I dont know if Cash would be willing to go that far, possibly though if the dollars were reasonable. I think he'd be the perfect candidate for a low base, incentive-laden deal.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9116232/Source:-Mets,-Yanks-lead-pack-pursuing-P-Garcia

[Dipre]

I realize' date=' what's your point? We still signed an injured pitcher knowing that he wouldn't be able to contribute right away, and let him rehab in our organization. That's the only point I was trying to make [b']Dr. Smarty Pants.[/b]

 

 

 

...speaking of injured pitchers, it seems Freddy Garcia has narrowed his choice of teams to the Yankees and Mets. This according to Ken Rosenthal. He's looking for a Major League contract. I dont know if Cash would be willing to go that far, possibly though if the dollars were reasonable. I think he'd be the perfect candidate for a low base, incentive-laden deal.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9116232/Source:-Mets,-Yanks-lead-pack-pursuing-P-Garcia

 

For The Win!

[jacksonianmarch]

Freddy Garcia belongs in the same bin as Penny and Smoltz. A guy I cannot trust to get through 180-200IP, which is something we need. If he can, then god bless him. I just dont like the bargain bin move here by Cashman if we do sign him. We have a rotation with notorious DL repeat offender AJ Burnett and Joba whose arm couldnt handle the yank around last yr. If you add a guy who is about 18 months post reconstructive shoulder surgery and he flames out, we'll have to dip down into our farm system once again. A farm system that could REALLY use a yr to gain innings and mature in the minors after bringing them up too quickly over the past 2 yrs and watching them get hurt. My ideal scenario for this rotation is to have...

 

1. CC

2. Wang

3. AJ

4. Innings eater

5. Joba.

 

That rotation would essentially guarantee that we'll protect guys like Kennedy and Hughes so they can build innings while allowing them spot starts when Joba needs a rest or when AJ decides he needs the DL. I just dont want to get into May or June and have to lean on Hughes at the MLB level or lean on Joba to be anything more than a 5th starter

[26 to 6]

Looks like we don't have to worry about Freddy, apparently he's about to sign a minor league deal with the Mets.